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post #1 of 31
Thread Starter 

Yes, yes, some of you are done with Jason Statham. Some of you won't trust the director of Remember The Titans. Some of you are Todd Haynes fans.

 

But, aside from the Crank movies, this is the best thing Statham has done yet. A real gritty NYC actioner, great locations, great baddies, great fun. The plot is super familiar -- Statham needs to rescue a girl who is good at teh supermaths -- but Statham uses her as an opportunity to pit the Russian mob, Chinese gangsters and corrupt NYC cops against each other.

 

It's not perfect (the ending is kind of a cop-out) but there is one amazing club shootout, there's some hardcore Statham ass-beatings, some great one-liners... I think it stands a chance of getting lost in the shuffle this weekend. But if you have any love for red meat action, you should bust your ass to see it, as I've heard from many non-action fans also over the moon about it.

post #2 of 31

Gabe T, Well, I would place...The Expendables...Above the Crank Films, and the...Crank films above the...3 Transporter films as my...Favorite Jason Statham Films.  The one thing the...6 films share, is an...Affinity for Over The Top action!  It is...Safe to say, that I am...Passing on this latest Statham Action Film, with the...Glorious...Ex2, making quick work of...Expendable, non-CRANKy, Transporters Trilogy's featuring...Stunning Statham Action!

post #3 of 31

You loved Lock-Out!  How can I trust you???

 

Ohohohoh.

 

I may go to a screening of this on Wednesday.  It's a choice between that and Mad Max.  I may go for Mad Max since it's an opportunity to see the film (followed by Road Warrior) on the big screen.

post #4 of 31

 

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Originally Posted by Gabe T View Post

Yes, yes, some of you are done with Jason Statham. Some of you won't trust the director of Remember The Titans. Some of you are Todd Haynes fans.

 

But, aside from the Crank movies, this is the best thing Statham has done yet. A real gritty NYC actioner, great locations, great baddies, great fun. The plot is super familiar -- Statham needs to rescue a girl who is good at teh supermaths -- but Statham uses her as an opportunity to pit the Russian mob, Chinese gangsters and corrupt NYC cops against each other.

 

It's not perfect (the ending is kind of a cop-out) but there is one amazing club shootout, there's some hardcore Statham ass-beatings, some great one-liners... I think it stands a chance of getting lost in the shuffle this weekend. But if you have any love for red meat action, you should bust your ass to see it, as I've heard from many non-action fans also over the moon about it.

 

I'm actually not surprised this turned out decent.  As shitty as the premise sounds, the trailer contains some pretty effective moments of hard-hitting action; and plus, it's fucking Jason Statham.

 

Yeah, I'm down to watch it this weekend.

post #5 of 31

I hope this delivers. I'm a big Statham fan, both as an actor and as an action star and this flick looks like it could be a little more ambitious than his other non franchise action roles.

post #6 of 31

 

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Some of you are Todd Haynes fans.

 

 

What a movie!  Should have remembered that in the "movies that haunt you" thread.

post #7 of 31

Wait, this isn't a remake?

 

Shit, and I was all up for a movie about Jason Statham wheezing a lot and being allergic to everything and eventually never leaving the house. IT WOULD'VE RAWKED, DOOD.

 

...Now I want a ton (Olivier Megaton?) of hilariously inappropriate Jason Statham remakes. My Dinner with Statham. Fried Green Statham.

post #8 of 31

Top-tier Statham all the way. Kid could have easily been annoying but she's not. Good casting there. Maybe not RAID-levels of brutality but closer than I would have predicted. Nice chance to see seasoned pros like Hong, Burke, and Sarandon do their thing.

 

If I had one gripe it would be the "Alex" character. Liked him and wish they had built him up a tad more over the course of the film instead of saving his stuff for the last act. Even though I caught a few episodes of that Hell on Wheels thing I didn't recognize him as that same guy at all.

post #9 of 31

 

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If I had one gripe it would be the "Alex" character. Liked him and wish they had built him up a tad more over the course of the film instead of saving his stuff for the last act. Even though I caught a few episodes of that Hell on Wheels thing I didn't recognize him as that same guy at all.

 

Agreed. I also hated to see that Russian mobster's son get off scott free. Sorry, but his introduction is way to heinous to not lead to him being impaled on a meat grinder. Crotch first.

post #10 of 31

Gabe T, You're right!  I didn't expect a Jason Statham film outside of his...Expendables, Crank, and Transporter Roles to reach the heights of...Awesomeness that Safe reaches!  It will be a...Definitive Top 5 in my...Best Films Of 2012 List, and of my favorite Statham Films!

post #11 of 31
Thread Starter 

I admit, the dark-haired, pock-marked corrupt cop was all super-tough-guy, but I remembered him from the Tim and Eric movie, where he was that super dignified used-toilet-paper salesman, and I couldn't stop cracking up.

post #12 of 31

Gabe T, Well I didn't see the Tim and Eric Movie.  

post #13 of 31

Utter shit. I mean utter shit. Honestly, don't bother seeing this, it's breathtakingly retarded in a way that you'd never want to pay for it. Wait for it to be on tv or pirate it if you're desperate. 

 

Horrible, shaky, messy action with one or two interesting bits. A hive of lame Liz Lemon plot "Twists" and a clusterfuck of rubbish villains with increasingly stupid and complicated plans. Honestly, this has to be one of the worst action films I've seen in a long time. I'm not sure I can explain just why it's so terrible without spoiling the film. If anyone actually wants me to go through the stupid shit, I can.

 

The script is horrible too. Easily the worst Statham's ever had. A handful of pretty awful one liners, and dialogue that has everyone over-explaining their plans in thick detail, then describing their emotions and it's subtext in detail. I'm not exaggerating when I say there are lines like this - "NYPD open the door! I am a policeman! I'm here to arrest you!"

 

It's one saving grace is that Jerry from Fright Night is in a movie with Dave Lopan. I need to learn my lesson and not keep paying to see Statham movies. Oh, and I saw this on the end credits - "Executive Producer Kevin Spacey"

post #14 of 31

SeanCE, To each his/her own, but to me it is...Safe to say, this...Latest film, is one of Statham's...Greatest!  There is...Nonstop action in the last...Hour!  Triads, a crooked mayor, and corrupt police captain with his own henchmen, Russian Mafia, and in this...Hive of Villainy, Statham must rescue a 12 year old girl.  I would love a...Trilogy of these films.  The sequel could be...Safe 2: Do The Wright Thing!

post #15 of 31
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...There is...Nonstop action in the last...Hour!  Triads, a crooked mayor, and corrupt police captain with his own henchmen, Russian Mafia, and in this...Hive of Villainy, Statham must rescue a 12 year old girl...

And none of it works, at all. It's the most profoundly inept action film for ages. I don't know how this is getting good reviews. It's poorly written, acted and shot. It's not so bad it's good, it's not so silly it's fun, it's not over the top or relentless, it's not funny, it's not actually that exciting.

 

Oh and I forgot, the main theme? It's like a weird rip off of Mission: Impossible. Incredibly bland and dull. I've not seen Killer Elite but I can't imagine it being much worse. At leas The Mechanic had a ridiculous cult subplot and the action was staged well. 

post #16 of 31

Not that I have plans to see this (I eliminated Statham from my diet after The Mechanic) but I can't imagine that this is worse than Transporter 3. It's damn near impossible.

post #17 of 31

I'd say that was probably more boring, but dumb. This has more action, but all of it is really loud and annoying. 

 

Edit, spoilers, cos fuck it.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 


Statham has many careers in this. He's a cage fighter for one shot that lasts ten seconds. He's meant to throw a fight, but doesn't knocking out some kid from youtube with one punch, putting him in a coma. He goes to fight the guys that set up the match, and they tell him some gangsters are after him cos he lost them a million dollars. He rushes home to find his pregnant wife killed by gangsters, who say they've read his "file" and he was apparently a garbage man with good benefits. I should point out, that up until this point, the film has been pretty good and edited really well, quickly setting up what you think is going to be a nice, simple action movie: Garbageman/Cage Fighter has to protect girl with super memory from Dave Lopan and some guy that looks like Rodney Dangerfield. 

 

...Then the russian gangsters enact an insane plan to not kill him, so they just "watch him" and kill anyone he talks to or remotely makes small talk with. So he becomes a tramp. While out and about he gets kicked out of a coffee shop for not having enough money, that leads to him getting found by some cops, he beat the shit out of him and explain he was the best cop they knew who ruined some weird crime thing they had going, and they were betting on him killing himself. So, after his beatdown, he's at the subway about to commit suicide when he sees the young girl and he changes his mind, but he sees some gangsters after her, and goes on stupid chase and murders one of them in cold blood. And then it gets worse and more complicated. He has some corrupt cop friends, the mayor is involved, the mayors aid is involved. You also find out that Statham was at some point on a super task force of cops to stop the gaps in crime when other forces are fighting terrorism on the Mayors order. Now, this could be so dumb it's fun, but it's so badly done, so fucking WITLESS, that you just assume the writer/director is retarded and genuinely thinks he's making a good movie.

 

Oh and, this should be fair warning, don't go seeing this expecting The Transporter or even Mercury Rising. It's nothing compared to those movies. It pretty much drops the entire protect the girl plot when statham gets the numbers off of her and then goes and finds his weird corrupt cop buddies to storm a casino and break into a safe BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS. It's got some terrible acting by one of the cops, I dunno who played him, but he keeps chewing a tooth pick in an embarrassing way. That part also leads to the worst shot gunfight I've seen in forever and a hilarious "suiting up" scene. Statham, our hero up until this point pretty much outright kills fucking huge numbers of random people at the casino, just cos they work there. Then it switches to some conspiracy thing where we find out the Mayors aid was behind it all along? I dunno. I don't think the film even knows. 

 

Poor Statham, he's a long, long way away from Lock, Stock & Snatch. 

 

 

I really wouldn't take Gabe's advice on this. He liked Ghost Rider 2, which was equally shit. I'm not 100% sure he should be reviewing movies. He's making horrible recommendations and potentially wasting people's money and misleading them.


Edited by SeanCE - 5/6/12 at 5:50pm
post #18 of 31
Thread Starter 

Sean, we disagree. On a basic meat and potatoes genre level, I think this film has enough color and surprises to recommend to the native action fan. You disagree. Your remarks about my personal opinions are pretty uncalled for, however.

post #19 of 31

This film is terrible. Save your money and rent a movie or something.

post #20 of 31

I kinda liked it. Statham basically doing a Seagal movie.

 

Still i would've preferred a more drawn out fight with the Alex character in the ending.

post #21 of 31

I loved it. ESPECIALLY the end "fight" with Alex. That's pretty much the only way he should've walked out there alive.

post #22 of 31

I loved loved loved this movie - reminded me of treasures like Blind Fury or Shogun in Little Tokyo that barely blip on the big screen but live forever on cable and video.  Statham really is The New King.  I could see Boaz Yakin being the next Justin Lin, the kid who made a smart little indie film a million years ago and out of nowhere starts making mega-budget action blockbusters.

 

Also loved that Anson Mount was the heavy.  I couldn't believe it that they could find someone that super-handsome and that good at acting to actually fight Statham ... and I was (spoiler)

 

 

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post #23 of 31

WendellEverett, So it is...Safe to say, that Mt. Anson...Blew his chance?  I thought Safe was...Awesome!  It is definitely one of Statham's best after The Expendables and Crank 1 and 2!

post #24 of 31

Just saw it tonight on blu. So yeah it wasn't bad but the ending bothered me. First the Russian wife killer alive and the non fight. I mean it was cute and unexpected I will admit but in a film where Statham EASILY took down everyone he ran into it would have been nice to see him struggle just a tiny bit. When the vampire from Fright Night said "theres only one man in town who can kill him" I thought great because as cool as seeing him mow everyone down is, I need to see some struggle here. It's part of the reason I never really enjoyed Steven Sequal movies. 

post #25 of 31
Thats one thing I don't like about Stathams flicks, he's always indestructible. It's always statham versus 50 guys and statham beats them like he's walking the dog. Only movies where statham hasn't dominated like that are War and Expendables 2 where he has an excellent fight with Scott Adkins.
post #26 of 31

This is a thing with younger guys who don't "get" the Golden Age of Seagal (Which is pretty much everything up to Under Siege 2) - the whole point is that he's so good that the bad guys only land one or two punches the whole movie.  Statham's recent films are pretty much the closest thing there is to the great Steven Seagal movies of the early 90s - "Safe" could actually be one of those movies if you just switched out Statham for Seagal and replaced half of the action with rambling monologues about the CIA.

post #27 of 31

Finally got around to watch it--I liked it quite a bit.  This is certainly DTV fluff, but oh man does this film kick hard when it goes full-on Statham mode.

 

And while the child actress is a...child actress, I actually did like her quite a bit with Statham.  

post #28 of 31
Yeah, I also thought that Statham and the little girl fed off each other very well, especially towards the end of the film where Statham almost fought that guy.
post #29 of 31

The "Almost" fight at the end didn't bother you?

post #30 of 31
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The "Almost" fight at the end didn't bother you?

It bothered me, but it certainly didn't ruin the film.  It gave me enough bloody Statham satisfaction that I was only mildly annoyed that we didn't get that one-on-one fight.

post #31 of 31
Oh no the almost fight did bother me, because like I said, there is almost never a Statham one on one fight scene.
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