DJANGO UNCHAINS A STUNTMAN AND A DICTATOR

Bummer news to lose Russell. Ah well, light up the Madsen Signal.

Fuck

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Originally Posted by Moltisanti 

Bummer news to lose Russell. Ah well, light up the Madsen Signal.

Or the Roth flag.

Not sure how suited for Ace Woody Roth is, though.  Madsen would be better.

Fuck. Was really looking forward to seeing Russell in a major role working with QT again.

This sucks. I haven't read the script, but Russell has a large part, right? Hopefully this doesn't have too drastic of an effect on the film.

It's one of the bigger supporting parts.  Not a huge part overall, but definitely integral.  A couple of the Ace Woody scenes would be among the toughest to watch in a film one assumes will be full of them..

WTF is going on with this movie? Why did they leave? Fuck Cohen but what's KR's excuse? Fuck him as well then. Get Michael Biehn on the phone. That man deserves work. Also, replace Cohen (useless cocksucker) and put Tom Hiddleston or Benedict Cumberbatch in the role. Either would be fucking gold!

...Creepy?

Is John Travolta doing anything right now? Does QT still have his phone number?

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Originally Posted by SeanCE 

...Creepy?

He kept himself remarkably restrained this time out before flipping his lid.

Bummer on both counts. Russell leaving is bad, but worse is them maybe cutting the role. And Cohen just keeps getting better in these small, weird roles.

After his work on Eastbound & Down, I'm thinking Don Johnson is completely fearless, God bless him. 

Cohen I can live without, but it's really tough losing Russel on this. 

Ace Woody has a LOT of scenes...cutting the part entirely would really gut some major parts of the third act.

Dammit.  Was so pumped to see Kurt in this role.

To be honest I was always more interested in seeing what Tarantino could do with Costner than with Russell again, I'd love it if there was a way of maybe getting him back on board. Or even revive the old Warren Beatty collaboration idea. You never know.

Still, having to reorganise everything at the last minute is no good. And Kurt must surely have burned a fair few bridges by pulling something like this.

Yeah, this makes Russell seem like something of a dick. If he's pulling out for reasons other than necessity he's royally fucked up.

I don't really think they could cut the Ace Woody role.  Without getting too spoilery, part of the ending is about an almost symbolic showdown between Django and "The Plantation" as an entity, and the evil foreman has to be represented in that equation.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Yeah, this makes Russell seem like something of a dick. If he's pulling out for reasons other than necessity he's royally fucked up.

Well, it'll certainly be interesting what comes down the pipe in terms of what happened. For now, as far as Russell fans (i.e. most of us) are concerned? SUCKS.

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Originally Posted by Paul C 

To be honest I was always more interested in seeing what Tarantino could do with Costner than with Russell again, I'd love it if there was a way of maybe getting him back on board.

I'm getting TOMBSTONE vs WYATT EARP argument flashbacks.

What's Walken up to right now?

Holy shit, this is God paying back the solid ol' Melvin did him with THE PASSION, isn't it?

The film is controversial enough as it is.  Seeing someone play against type would be interesting, certainly.  But exploiting Gibson's crazy racism would be unnecessary at best, and could potentially muddle the message.

And I am aware the film's roots are in pulp and exploitation, but unlike true schlock meant to generate money through thrills and controversy, this film has a specific, and severe moral point of view.

Don't worry, apparently Russell quitting means Walt Goggins is promoted. Fine by me. In fact I prefer it.

GOGGINS. I am agog. Gins.

Goggins will be awesome. He definitely has the Spaghetti Western baddie look down pat.

@Judas Booth, yeah, apparently his role has been combined with the role of Ace Woody.

Also, while I never felt Cohen was right for Scotty Harmony, I hope they don't cut that character out too. It was more than just a cameo.

If they're streamlining the runtime, the stuff with Broomhilda and Scotty would probably be the first thing to go though, no?

Sort of like this script's version of the Madame Mimieux stuff?

Yeah, Goggins' character is being merged with Ace Woody. The Gogs was psyched about working on the flick before, but now he's definitely gotta be doing Bailey's gifs.

Well, that couldn't have worked out better. Yay! 

Yup, that's a solution I can get behind. More Goggins for your buck!

I would have liked to see Russell in the role, but merging Goggins' part with the character instead of cutting the part completely is a smart solution.

Cohen's role was much smaller and not as integral, so are they cutting that one completely?  No last-minute replacements or cast promotions there?

It's been a while for me, can somebody remind me who Goggins was playing?  I'm assuming he has to be one of Calvin's goons at Candyland, right?

Supposedly he was going to play Billy Crash... who is one of Candie's goons, and more of a hillbilly lackey than Ace Woody.

That's a shame...  The Woody role kind of requires Kurt instead of a bumbling red neck type... Give it some menace and gravity.

Oh, Goggins can menace, baby. No doubt.

That, along with some spoilery stuff, is why I think that he's basically just going to be playing Ace Woody now.  I don't see the guy who trains Candie's fighters and runs a lot of the things on his plantation becoming a bumbling redneck with his two front teeth missing.

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Originally Posted by Draco Senior 

Cohen's role was much smaller and not as integral

I wouldn't say it was much smaller. Cohen had at least eight or nine minutes of screen time. If anything, Ace Woody had about the same amount of screen time.  He's a third tier villain compared to the roles DiCaprio and Jackson are playing.

Ah, alright.  I haven't read the script and some reports described his role as a cameo of sorts.  It would have been interesting to see Cohen in a Tarantino flick, admittedly.

Regardless of screen time, Woody's much more important to the movie than the Scotty Harmony character.

I'm not sure Ace Woody is really that important. The fact that Tarantino has decided to combine the characters of Ace Woody and Billy Crash would suggest otherwise. In fact, Ace Woody really doesn't do a whole lot in this story. Without getting into any major spoilers, he really only has one scene worth talking about, and it's a scene that comes right after a scene involving Stephen. Since both scenes are set in the same place, and since they both basically boil down to the same thing, why not just combine the two scenes? We'll still have Goggins as the slave trainer.

As for Scotty, I suppose they could cut out the character and maybe rework his scenes to match another character. Still, he has one crucial scene, and it's one of the best in the script, and maybe the closest to a classic Tarantino scene you can get.

Of course Ace Woody is important.  As I already mentioned, he's important to the end of the story, symbolically.  I'm not saying that Goggins character can't fill that role... I'm just saying it makes less sense to make the hick Billy Crash have a beefed up role than it does to have Goggins play a character now more like Woody.