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post #1 of 39
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Less than a month before release and still no thread?  Damn. 

 

Why did they even bother casting Kristen Stewart if they are so goddamn hellbent on hiding her in every single TV spot I've seen?  Her character's name is in the title, but you wouldn't know it from the marketing. 

post #2 of 39

Because Twilight is rapidly fading as an "it" property.  Breaking Dawn 2 is coming way too late, and with the Avengers being huge, and Prometheus building buzz, Hemsworth and Theron are the bigger names at the moment.

post #3 of 39

I am generally "Meh" on this. Not exactly a big fan of Stewart, but i think Huntsman will make a fair sum of change in the end.

post #4 of 39

I can't stop wanting to see this. Nothing surprises me more. It just looks so pretty.

post #5 of 39

I want to see this. I like Stewart, Theron and Hemsworth. I like spooky fairy tales. I like Gothy eye-candy. I'm expecting it to be crap but I'm there opening weekend.

post #6 of 39

This is the kind of movie I'd normally be all over, but something about the marketing isn't connecting for me. I feel like they're hiding something. Stewart, as mentioned, is barely present. But there's also an awful lot of spooky monologueing over quick action cuts. The few bits of dialogue I have heard make it seem like it's taking itself very seriously.

post #7 of 39

Ever catch Solomon Kane? The design is a little similar to this.

post #8 of 39

They've been really pushing this dark, serious fairy tale agenda in Hollywood (I can only assume this is fallout from ALICE IN WONDERLAND, which was neither dark nor serious, but whatever) and it has yet to yield anything decent. I can't help but feel this will be another in that trend, though I'd love to be wrong.

 

Sidenote: I've read the script for the upcoming HANSEL AND GRETEL: WITCH HUNTERS with Jeremy Renner. It is awful.

post #9 of 39

I just can't take this film seriously at all.  Theron's whispery dialogue in some of the television spots is hilarious in how hard she seems to be trying.

post #10 of 39

What's next, an epic version of the three little pigs?

 

I get angry when I see the ads for this movie.

post #11 of 39
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Sidenote: I've read the script for the upcoming HANSEL AND GRETEL: WITCH HUNTERS with Jeremy Renner. It is awful.

 

I've seen Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters, and yes, it is.

 

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I get angry when I see the ads for this movie.

 

Why?  Just ignore it.

post #12 of 39
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What's next, an epic version of the three little pigs?

 

 

Uh, yes please!

post #13 of 39
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What's next, an epic version of the three little pigs?

 

 

Badass pigs in full battle armor flying in bullet time as a ferocious wolf army attacks their fortress?  TICKET BOUGHT.

post #14 of 39

Early reviews are in. Seem mixed so far.

post #15 of 39
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Early reviews are in. Seem mixed so far.

So the consensus is that it's a middling film with pretty visuals?

 

I think I'll pass.

post #16 of 39

I was expecting the reviews to be worse, frankly. I'm still in.

post #17 of 39

Two pals saw it. One loved it. One hated it. Both agreed on same point. Stewart is "dead weight."

post #18 of 39

I like Stewart, but this role seems to be doing her no favors.  It's just as cynical and marketing-driven as Alice in Wonderland in terms of its central character.

post #19 of 39

I have no beef with Stewart, or even Twilight for that matter. But Unviersal's bullheadedness on casting her (when they screen-tested a slew of cheaper unknowns) is dumbfounding. They couldn't have seen this coming? This is exactly why that studio is in the shape they're in.

post #20 of 39

So, uh... I liked the grrl power of the last twenty minutes. This is unquestionably Stewart and Theron's movie.

 

Aside from that, eh... this Sanders guy seems like he had "Legend" and Ridley's "Robin Hood" on shuffle while shooting this thing.

 

It's pretty, and some of the effects are almost somewhat imaginative. But the storytelling is turgid and boring and slow as hell. You could feel my audience get restless. They give this film the stuffy prestige sheen and attitude, but the story and characters are distinctly Z-grade, so it's just twenty minutes at a time spent telling four minutes of story. For two hours.

 

Couldn't decide if Hemsworth was doing a Scottish or Irish accent. Eventually settled on Sean Connery doing Irish. Stewart is alright, but she doesn't have much of a character to play. In the second half of the film she takes charge, and I thought she was pretty convincing, but you're also thinking, wait, where did this character come from? Charlize has a campy good time, but spends most of her screen time sheltered away in her castle. She's also slowly decomposing, until she has to conjure up some eeevil magic. It's a little random. Did not recognize the actor who played her (possibly incestuous?) henchman brother. Laughed each time he screwed up her plan by revealing their trump card way too early, Evil Laugh-style.

 

The dwarfs are kind of forgettable, and not given the screen time or respect they were given in Mirror Mirror (and I can't believe I said that). That's unfortunate, considering this murderer's row of talent - Bob Hoskins, Ian McShane, Nick Frost, Eddie Marsan, Toby Jones and Ray Winstone? Knock off the CGI and just have this cast as regular-sized forest marauders, and you have my ticket.

 

There's one scene where a couple of thimble-sized nymphs crawl out of bird stomachs and lead Snow White to a horse with twenty foot antlers. By far the strangest thing in the movie, with almost zero context. Wish the rest of the movie was that colorful.

post #21 of 39
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The dwarfs are kind of forgettable, and not given the screen time or respect they were given in Mirror Mirror (and I can't believe I said that). That's unfortunate, considering this murderer's row of talent - Bob Hoskins, Ian McShane, Nick Frost, Eddie Marsan, Toby Jones and Ray Winstone? Knock off the CGI and just have this cast as regular-sized forest marauders, and you have my ticket.

 

Shit. The dwarf casting was the thing that made this thing an instant sell for me. Thats unfortunbate.

 

I'm still oddly interested in checking this out though.

post #22 of 39

One of my friends saw it and said Charlize is unbearably hammy. "She can't spit out a line without at least two dramatic pauses" was the expression used, I believe.

 

I feel like the buzz for this just collapsed in the last month, partly from some mediocre word of mouth but also just from an oddly paced marketing strategy. I think they were releasing 5-min long clips a couple months ago.

post #23 of 39

Saw this tonight. It was pretty, but utterly forgettable. It was a like a twenty-minute sizzle reel that some exec liked and decided to film an extra hour and half of filler.

 

Charlize is super hammy, but, I think it works. YMMV though.

 

Stewart is bland, but, I'm not that willing to place blame on her. The character of Snow White is nothing, just a cipher that everyone says is beautiful and will change the world or something or other. I'm not sure any actress could have made it work.

 

Hemsworth was....there. I found myself wishing it was Colin Farrell for some reason at certain points. I can't really articulate why (other than liking Farrell as an actor more), but either the character on the page, or Hemsworh's portrayal was missing something.

post #24 of 39

Drew compares it to LEGEND.

 

I just hope to be reasonably entertained. That's all i expect from this.

post #25 of 39
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One of my friends saw it and said Charlize is unbearably hammy. "She can't spit out a line without at least two dramatic pauses" was the expression used, I believe.

 

It's hard to bring nuance to a role that requires you to bellow "YOU CANNOT DEFEAT ME!" and other such declarations for 2 hours. For my part, Charlize represented the best thing in the movie just about. 

 

Re: Legend comparison. Not really, but I get where Drew's coming from.

post #26 of 39

I had to add one thing I really dug about this flick: the James Newton Howard score. He kind of goes back to the well for some parts (I heard shades of his Shyamalan work in there, and a bit of I Am Legend), but it's a really pretty score. "White Heart" in particular is a killer track.

 

It's not going to get any noms or anything (I don't think), but it's solid stuff that plays really well away divorced from the movie as well.

post #27 of 39

I'll agree on that. The score is aces.

post #28 of 39
Thread Starter 

POST-RELEASE THREAD.  GO THERE!

post #29 of 39

I DONE DID CREATE THAT THERE POST RELEASE THREAD

 

Now we can post release and pre release in harmony!

post #30 of 39

I don't know if I can go on living in a world where Mirror Mirror is going to hold a higher Rotten Tomato score than this.  I haven't seen this so it's a pointless rant, but dammit the trailers just keep getting better.  I know RT is arbitrary but a few months ago, I never would have guessed Mirror Mirror looking like a shitstorm of epic proportions; was going to possibly please the masses more than this.  Has anyone yet, seen both?  Is this a case of one was better than it looked, and the other is getting more flack because it isn't living up to expectations?  I guess an entire thread could be (has been already?) dedicated to comparing quality in those two scenarios.

post #31 of 39

Mirror Mirror isn't very good, but I'll take Tarsem's style over the self-serious high fantasy seen in the trailers here.  I can't help but laugh whenever the painfully "Is this LotR enough?" castle storming shots from the trailers are seen with Charlize Theron's overdone, hilariously terrible whispery dialogue.  At least Mirror Mirror is seemingly aware of how nonsensical it all is, while this just wants to be taken completely seriously as a fantasy epic with DESTINY, MAN.

post #32 of 39

I guess I am not convinced anyone making Mirror Mirror was entirely sure they were making something that silly though.  Tarsem has a pretty lens, but I can never shake the fact that he always thinks he is making a better movie than what ends up on the screen.

post #33 of 39
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I guess I am not convinced anyone making Mirror Mirror was entirely sure they were making something that silly though.  Tarsem has a pretty lens, but I can never shake the fact that he always thinks he is making a better movie than what ends up on the screen.

 

Look, my kids and I kind of dug Mirror Mirror. It was fun, light fare based on a very simple fairy tale. As a matter of fact, the stuff with the monster at the end was already kind of cringe worthy in itself, but the movie was just trying to be fun and a bit different.

 

This thing ... is just unintentionally funny. The thought of making a fantasy epic out of this material is just preposterous. It looks boring and it takes itself too seriously, and nobody should be surprised that  the reviews reflect that.


Edited by ElCapitanAmerica - 5/31/12 at 1:38pm
post #34 of 39

Hmm.  Well the trailers work for me, as does the concept.  I wanted a gorgeous, heavy fantasy flick that had a decent story.  Seems like I might get 2 out of 3.  I guess I have low standards. :)

post #35 of 39

Conceptually, this just has no appeal for me at all.  It has a few admittedly interesting visual designs, but at the same time it looks a bit derivative too.  It might be pretty, it might be decent fantasy, but if there's no story then why bother?  It's no better than TRANSFORMERS if that's the case. It's right out of the cynical, misguided Alice in Wonderland mold that more often than not results in unintentional hilarity.  I just cannot, creatively speaking, understand why we need a Snow White high fantasy that looks like it borrows whatever the director liked from Legend and Ridley Scott's Robin Hood, with two hunks and Kristen Stewart in armor.

post #36 of 39

Great interview with the screenwriter for this film.  Awesome thing to point out is he started writing this in 2003 while in college.   But was not able to sell it till after Alice in Wonderland hit.

 

http://io9.com/5914604/how-snow-whites-huntsman-morphed-from-grizzled-old-sean-connery-into-thor

post #37 of 39
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Hmm.  Well the trailers work for me, as does the concept.  I wanted a gorgeous, heavy fantasy flick that had a decent story.  Seems like I might get 2 out of 3.  I guess I have low standards. :)

 

I understand the desire for an epic fantasy flick, but do you think the tone of this is a good fit for the Snow White story? They should have done something original, or picked a different story to go with the visuals.

post #38 of 39

($169 million hit!) Mirror, Mirror was at least pretty uniquely terrible. This movie is just dull in totally predictable ways.

post #39 of 39

I don't see why it isn't a good fit I guess.  Seemed like an interesting enough take on it as far as I could tell.  I have seen enough versions of the story, it seemed like a different and fair approach to the material.  Frankly, I kind of turn off my brain when the pretty stuff starts, so I only have a vague understanding of the story as it is.  The main beats of the story seem to be present, so beyond that I guess I assumed the storytelling would be acceptable enough. As a super weak writer and storyteller myself, I have a feeling I may enjoy this movie anyway. *shrug*

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