Originally Posted by agracru
But-- based on how you structured this little paragraph-- you're just as bad as the assholes who, say, want to limit marriage to man/woman, because you're equating "ignorance" with "religious practice/beliefs" point-blank. You have no business giving a fuck about people who go to church on Sundays and act like normal human beings within greater society. As to, say, something like the WBC, yeah, I agree, we shouldn't tolerate their hate, but you're flat-out refusing to draw a line between such nutjob motherfucks and my friends who go to temple/church once a week or celebrate the high holidays or whatever.
Which terrifies and disgusts me. Your beliefs-- if they are quite as myopic as you've presented them-- are incredibly fucked up.
First off, when I equate religion with ignorance, it comes from personal experience. I have met more than my fair share of religious individuals that were clueless about their own faiths. One would think that if you have chosen to live your life based on the stories in a particular book, you should know those stories fairly well....that is usually not the case at all.
More times than not, people that profess knowledge of their religion are completely ignorant of their religion as well as other religions.
I wonder how many people that consider themselves religious actually know that Islam, Judasim, and Christianity have a common root with 'Abraham'?
Second, I don't necessarily view the term "ignorance" as an absolute negative. I used to be ignorant (lacking knowledge) about working on motorcycles but after studying and working on them, I overcame that ignorance. I view the term as a challenge to learn about something new.
As far as religion goes...personally, I don't care if you want to follow Catholicism, Islam, Scientology, Buddhism, Trek, FSM, etc.....it's all good.
If you want to worship your gods in a church or your home, knock yourself out....have fun with it.
But, when your faith makes a habit of crossing over into the public sphere in an attempt to remake society in it's particular image, well, then I have a problem with it. I am not going to just sit and hold my tongue due to some pseudo societal taboo that says that religion is supposed to be respected and never criticized. We criticize politics, movies, music, etc. in this society, why should religion be any different?
For example- The Mormon church was shown to be responsible for the failure of Prop 8 to pass here in CA. Now, IIRC, in order for religious organizations to maintain their tax exempt status they are not supposed to campaign, lobby, or be involved in political activities....and yet, the LDS and many other religious organizations have abused and continue to abuse this law....which indirectly effects me and society as a whole. I wonder how many 'preachers' there would be if they had to pay taxes on all their 'donations' ?
These days, IMO, the majority of religions are nothing more than elaborate ponzi schemes used by charlatans to take advantage of the ignorance of it's followers....hence my calling religious individuals 'ignorant'