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post #1151 of 1215
2/28/13 at 5:52am

ASM is better than PROMETHEUS.

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post #1152 of 1215
2/28/13 at 6:40am

Easily.

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post #1153 of 1215
2/28/13 at 6:45am

Undoubtedly

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post #1154 of 1215
2/28/13 at 7:21am

You people are fucking crazy.

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post #1155 of 1215
2/28/13 at 9:17am

I'm torn...  PROMETHEUS started off with great visuals and good characterization (at least in Fassbender and Elba) and degenerated into pretentiousness and poor storytelling.  ASM, though, started off with terrible characterization and bizarre narrative choices but actually came alive for me with the second half's Spidey-action sequences until derailed by that god awful "promises you can't keep are the best kind" bit.  Both, for me, are crap movies with fleeting moments of inspiration -- which can be even more upsetting than being flat-out terrible.    

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post #1156 of 1215
2/28/13 at 10:13am
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Originally Posted by Ska Oreo View Post

You people are fucking crazy.

 

I actually think both suck, but ASM was more a of "Meh, sucked like I thought it would" and PROMETHEUS actively made me angry.

 

But really, I was just poking at nooj.

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post #1157 of 1215
2/28/13 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post

ASM is better than PROMETHEUS.

 

No, I don't think Amazing Spider-Man has anything as good in its chamber as David.

 

Prometheus: It's a bit better than the Amazing Spider-Man. Like, a tad. 

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post #1158 of 1215
2/28/13 at 10:32am

I'm tired of all this cutesy bullshit.

 

When does Peter start wrapping people up in web and eating them? When are four more appendages gonna burst from his torso?

 

CHRONENBERG! CHRONENBERG!!

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post #1159 of 1215
2/28/13 at 12:25pm

*sits quietly in the corner, thinking neither of them sucked, but they definitely have problems*

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post #1160 of 1215
2/28/13 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by avian View Post

No, I don't think Amazing Spider-Man has anything as good in its chamber as David.

Prometheus: It's a bit better than the Amazing Spider-Man. Like, a tad. 

Yes, I was going to point out David too. Plus, Prometheus is a beautiful looking film that is undeniably the product of a filmmaker with a great control of his craft. Scenes like the med pod sequence, or, well, anyway, those scenes deliver on a level far beyond Amazing Spiderman's most amazing ambitions.


Prometheus also has generally incredible production design, where as Amazing Spiderman has only an improved suit.
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post #1161 of 1215
2/28/13 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Chris Spider View Post

*sits quietly in the corner, thinking neither of them sucked, but they definitely have problems*

 

NO MODERATE DISCOURSE! THEY'RE THE BEST EVER OR THE WORST THING SINCE ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANT SYPHILIS. 

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post #1162 of 1215
2/28/13 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Harford View Post

Prometheus also has generally incredible production design, where as Amazing Spiderman has only an improved suit.

 

Disputed. ASM!Spider-Man doesn't look as good as Raimi!Spider-Man ten years ago. It looks like a basketball grew legs and became a figure skater.

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post #1163 of 1215
2/28/13 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by avian View Post

Disputed. ASM!Spider-Man doesn't look as good as Raimi!Spider-Man ten years ago. It looks like a basketball grew legs and became a figure skater.

It is definitely subjective but I love the texture. It is very basketball like, as you say. Also the eye pieces look like Parker disassembled a pair of Oakleys and incorporated them into the face mask.
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post #1164 of 1215
2/28/13 at 6:29pm

Both movies are failures, but Prometheus had ambition; and while it might be a mess, it most certainly is not a boring one.

 

ASM however?  It's definitely a ticket to snooze town. It's a safe, lazy reboot that deserves every fucking bit of scorn it received. FUCK THAT MOVIE.

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post #1165 of 1215
3/3/13 at 12:38am
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post

So is the new take on her the bad girl rebel in contrast to Gwen's scientist/cop's daughter? I don't mind a change, considering I can't stand the party girl starfucker from the comics and original trilogy. 

 

...so, someone only says misogyny here if there's a picture of Sofia Vergara's bosom as well, right?

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post #1166 of 1215
3/3/13 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by avian View Post

 

...so, someone only says misogyny here if there's a picture of Sofia Vergara's bosom as well, right?

I would argue MJ is a misogynist creation, the production of nerd wish fulfillment. The super model that mopes after the nice guy! Still, if I spoke too flippantly I apologize. I've just never liked the character for her selfishness, and no writer has ever been able to salvage her for me. Gwen in the original comics, I would argue, is also a cypher and Emma Stone's sassy intellect is the only thing that makes her a worthy character now. 

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post #1167 of 1215
3/6/13 at 5:19pm

This is an interesting read for anyone still interested....

 

http://screenrant.com/sam-raimi-spider-man-4-world-of-warcraft-movie/

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post #1168 of 1215
3/16/13 at 1:32pm

I thought it was kind of great. Certainly no Spiderman 2, but beats the pants off of (Raimi's) Spiderman 1 or 3. Plenty of wonky bits, but I think the sequel will be special.

"Promises you don't keep" is kind of a fucked up thing to go out on but, you know, teenage hormones and all that. I'm sure it'll set up a brutal payoff in part 2. Didn't mind the post-credits teaser either. More of a classic "to be continued" sort of deal than a Marvel "NOW look who it is!" thing.

 

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post #1169 of 1215
3/16/13 at 3:07pm
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post

Didn't mind the post-credits teaser either. More of a classic "to be continued" sort of deal than a Marvel "NOW look who it is!" thing.

 

 

Yup. And as a non-comic book fan, it hit me on about the same level as the (1st) post-credits stinger in the Avengers. Which is to say, not at all.

 

I've found that I've gone back to this movie way more than the other comic book flicks of 2012 (save Dredd, because Dredd is AMAZING). Garfield is ACES in this flick, and he's built a really solid foundation with both Stone and Sally Field. Yeah "promises you can't keep" was worrisome, but I'll let it go if they do in part 2.

 

I'm cautiously excited for the sequel, based on the talent involved, and hopefully being out of the shadow of the Raimi movies. Really, the only warning flag for me is Orci and Kurtzman (granted, it's a GIANT warning, but still....optimism!)

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post #1170 of 1215
3/17/13 at 12:54am
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post

I would argue MJ is a misogynist creation, the production of nerd wish fulfillment. The super model that mopes after the nice guy! Still, if I spoke too flippantly I apologize. I've just never liked the character for her selfishness, and no writer has ever been able to salvage her for me. Gwen in the original comics, I would argue, is also a cypher and Emma Stone's sassy intellect is the only thing that makes her a worthy character now. 

So is Edward Cullen a misandrist creation? People throw around the word misogyny like it's a damn linking verb. Sorry, Scriven, I've been wanting to say that for awhile and snatched the most convenient opportunity. I've never even seen the subject of this thread.
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post #1171 of 1215
4/16/13 at 1:46pm
When's there going to be an article on the main page about the first pics of Jamie Foxx as Electro, so we can bemoan them in the corresponding thread?!
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post #1172 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:02pm

I tried submitting it first thing this morning, but the scoop submission page is broken.

 

Let's complain anyway. It's fucking terrible.

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post #1173 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:13pm
They traded Electro's awesome mask for a hoodie?!

...maybe I need to see the hoodie in motion but until then, what the shit?!
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post #1174 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:16pm

 

 

I don't even understand what they were thinking with the Electro design, especially the odd LED-lit hoodie. Sure, the original version is maybe a little goofy but I'm sure a good costume designer could have found a way to update it for this movie. The design they've gone with looks like a Sith Lord who likes to pimp up his outfits.

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post #1175 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:19pm

If this follows standard operating procedures for a superhero film the hoodie look will come early then Electro will get some sort of textured rubber get-up later in the film.
 

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post #1176 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:20pm

I'm pretty sure the lights will be removed in post. They're just there to give him a glowy look, even in darkness.

 

But yeah. He looks like Abe Sapien. Or a fuckin' Na'vi.

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post #1177 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:21pm

God, I hope you're right Sebastian.

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post #1178 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:25pm

Hey look it's Batman and Robin's Mr. Freeze!

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post #1179 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:45pm
I know next to nothing about baseball but obviously Marvel has greater faith in Sammy Sosa's acting abilities than I can speak for.
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post #1180 of 1215
4/16/13 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

 

I can't wait to see what The 11th Doctor does to him. We haven't seen those villains since the Tom Baker years. Admittedly, they looked like ass then, too.

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post #1181 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:14pm

Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.

 

Suit #1: "I've noticed something."

Suit #2: "What's that?"

Suit #1: "All of the supervillains in movies? They're boring white guys."

Suit #2: "Yeah, you're right!"

Suit #1: "I mean, that's cool, right? But let's do something new with this Spider-man sequel."

Suit #2: "Like what?"

Suit #1: "Like hiring Jamie Foxx for our supervillain..."

Suit #2: "Great idea."

Suit #1: "..and coloring him blue."

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post #1182 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:23pm

It looks goofy but I very much doubt the hoodie is his super villain costume, it's probably just used in a scene where Electro is trying to walk about unnoticed.

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post #1183 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

They traded Electro's awesome mask for a hoodie?!

 

*whisper* it's cuz he's black *whisper*

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post #1184 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:29pm
New Yorker: Hey, what's with the blue light emanating from that dude's hoodie?

New Yorker 2: Dude, you think it's the new iPhone?

New Yorker: How the fuck did he get it so fast?

New Yorker 2: Don't know. Let's go jack it and beat his ass to the floor.
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post #1185 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:31pm

Can't say I was expecting them to have Jamie Foxx wear a giant star bolt over his face. Not sure if this is the right direction either but let's not kid ourselves, the original Electro design looked mighty stupid too. 

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post #1186 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:32pm

XTREME UNCLE FESTER.

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post #1187 of 1215
4/16/13 at 3:37pm
You take that back, User_ 32!
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post #1188 of 1215
4/16/13 at 5:33pm

Doctor Manhattan inspired design works for me. 

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post #1189 of 1215
4/16/13 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by Evi View Post

It looks goofy but I very much doubt the hoodie is his super villain costume, it's probably just used in a scene where Electro is trying to walk about unnoticed.

That'd be my guess as well.


Honestly, I kind of like this design. But then again, I did enjoy ASM more than most.
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post #1190 of 1215
4/16/13 at 6:48pm

I like the look but I really enjoy Ultimate Spider-Man and it is pretty much lifted right out of that.

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post #1191 of 1215
4/16/13 at 6:51pm

NO IT'S NOT!  He's yellow in that book, stoopid!

 

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post #1192 of 1215
4/16/13 at 7:15pm

Good lord. If this is what they are doing to Electro then what the heck is the Rhino going to look like? Or do you think they are going to add CGI effects where he appears like he is constantly giving off electricity or sparking like in some versions?
 

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post #1193 of 1215
4/16/13 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by bigbrother View Post

Good lord. If this is what they are doing to Electro then what the heck is the Rhino going to look like? Or do you think they are going to add CGI effects where he appears like he is constantly giving off electricity or sparking like in some versions?
 

 

It'll just be Paul Giamatti with grey face paint, and a rhinoceros-themed hoodie.

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post #1194 of 1215
4/16/13 at 7:30pm

It's an Iron Man mech suit, or he'll literally be gene spliced into a Rhino man.  Who's betting on what? 

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post #1195 of 1215
4/17/13 at 7:28am

Gene-spliced Rhino man with a mech suit.

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post #1196 of 1215
4/17/13 at 7:52am

And a hoodie.

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post #1197 of 1215
4/17/13 at 7:55am

With LEDs on his horn.

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post #1198 of 1215
4/17/13 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post

 

I can't wait to see what The 11th Doctor does to him. We haven't seen those villains since the Tom Baker years. Admittedly, they looked like ass then, too.

I think I know why Marvel went with this look for Electro.  Call it a hunch...heh.  ETA: I've changed the pic.  Feel a bit uncomfortable using someone else's image.  Created a comparison shot of my own with images I've gleaned from the NYDaily and here: DC Comics Database 

 

 

 

 


Edited by smugbug - 4/17/13 at 9:28am
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post #1199 of 1215
4/17/13 at 10:01am
Electro Unchained is all like, "This isn't even my final form!"
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post #1200 of 1215
4/17/13 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by Kyler View Post

I like the look but I really enjoy Ultimate Spider-Man and it is pretty much lifted right out of that.

 

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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post

NO IT'S NOT!  He's yellow in that book, stoopid!

 

I think Kyler may be referring to the cartoon?

 

 

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Originally Posted by smugbug View Post

I think I know why Marvel went with this look for Electro.  Call it a hunch...heh.  ETA: I've changed the pic.  Feel a bit uncomfortable using someone else's image.  Created a comparison shot of my own with images I've gleaned from the NYDaily and here: DC Comics Database 

 

 

 

 

Uh oh.

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