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Originally Posted by Dr Harford 

And to be really blunt here for a second I'm not a guy who is into movies about space faring raccoons. I don't think it's cool to see that movie get a 200 million dollar budget. I'm weird like that I guess.

How would you feel if the raccoon were a Scientologist?

Creeping closer, ever closer, to that Bucky O' Hare movie. SO CLOSE.

RodofWar, I have no idea whom...Starlord is. He might have been introduced after I stopped reading new comics for compilations like Essential Marvel...and Savage Sword Of Conan!  Vance Astro is human and leader of the Guardians  Of The Galaxy, that I read.  They fought Michael Korvac, who they refer to as...The Enemy, during The Korvac Saga, in the pages of...The Avengers!

The Rain Dog, You are...Right!  The Ice Pirates is...Exactly how TGOTG should be like.  I do not know if Starlord is a swashbuckler, like Robert Urich though.

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Originally Posted by Ska Oreo 

I don't buy that nonsense that "no one' knew a thing about Thor or Iron Man: these were established characters that, while no where near as popular as Spiderman or the X-men, are at least familiar to most people--could you really say the same about Guardians of the Galaxy?

Well we could argue that one all day if we wanted to.  All I know is, I've got a t-shirt I've had for ages that has nothing on it but a close-up from an old Kirby panel of Thor's hand holding Mjolnir.  No writing, nothing.  Just the hand and the hammer.  I've worn that shirt a million times and before May 2011, not a single person outside a comic shop ever said a word about it.  After the movie cam eout, I got girls in pubs starting conversations from it, kids excitedly pointing it out to their parents, the lot.  I think alot of people seriously, SERIOUSLY over-estimate how well known any comic character that isn't Spidey, Hulk, Bats or Supes is.

As for my original post?  All I meant by that was that by now, surely you can just have a little tiny bit of faith?  But after seeing how aggressive you've been in this thread, I guess not.

Bummer. For some reason I thought these guys

were the Guradians of the Galaxy and got really excited.

Gladiator's gotsta show up in the cinematic Marvel world at some point, surely. Dwayne Johnson was born for that gig.

I always kept getting the Guardians and the Starjammers mixed in my head..

And didn't one incarnation of the Guardians have an arc where they were searching for all the talismans of the Marvel heroes in the future?  Like Cap's shield and Thor's hammer?  I doubt they'd go this route with the film, but it would be an interesting angle.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson 

 

And didn't one incarnation of the Guardians have an arc where they were searching for all the talismans of the Marvel heroes in the future?  Like Cap's shield and Thor's hammer?  I doubt they'd go this route with the film, but it would be an interesting angle.

Black Widow's...ass?

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Originally Posted by RodofWar 


Starlord is an older character that was brought back and given an update for the new cosmic expansion Marvel did a few years back. He's actually the founder of the Guardians which became the ones you're familiar with led by Vance Astor in the 31st century. Major Victory did end up becoming part of the team in the present due to some sort of time rift. As well as Starhawk. This makes my head hurt a little.
The good part is Starlord is totally a swashbuckling sarcastic type. He would be really fun if they cast him right. It's one of the reasons I'm so excited. And for Rocket Raccoon, of course.

This may give them an easy in by letting them cast a movie star in the part. If it was a (for example; I don't know the character well enough to cast him) Brad Pitt movie, or someone of similar stature (or maybe even a tier down); that might go a long way in getting over the obscurity of the characters. The mix of a lead who's a draw and can hype up the movie and tying it closely to Avengers 2 could put it on a level with the other properties.

RodofWar, Thank you for the update. The first time I even heard of Starlord, was during the Guardians Of The Galaxy's appearence on...The Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Richard Dickson, Well The Starjammers are lead by Major Christopher Summers aka Corsair, aka the father of Scott Summers/ Cyclops and Havok!  The Starjammers are present day, whilist TGOTG are from the 31st Century, and their major villain are the Badoon.  The Badoon are Marvel's version of...Apes, just like the Planet Of The Apes.

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Originally Posted by The NZ Natural 

I think alot of people seriously, SERIOUSLY over-estimate how well known any comic character that isn't Spidey, Hulk, Bats or Supes is.

Exactly.  Most people had no clue who Iron Man was before 2008.  The same can be said of Thor, Daredevil, The Punisher, Ghost Rider, and, to a lesser degree, Captain America.  Definitely of Blade.  The X-Men had a somewhat built in audience by the time the first film came out do to the 90s animated series that ran for five years, but even they weren't a sure thing.

People have to remember that coming across a shit ton of superhero merchandise in most stores like you can nowadays just did not happen before the big superhero movie boom about a decade ago.  Spidey, Supes, and Batman?  Of course.  But not the rest, outside of action figures.  Did it exist?  Of course, but not widely available.  You had to be in a comic book or novelty store to find stuff like that.

Granted there ARE cartoons running now that pimp the likes of Ant-Man, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and even Guardians of the Galaxy, but they tend not to last more than a year or two anymore.  How many Spider-Man cartoon have come and gone since the Raimi films started?  3?  4?  Possibly 5?  Hell, Marvel is already set on ending the Avengers one that they are running right now after the current season and rebooting with a completely different one by the fall.  The action figure industry also isn't quite what it used to be, so while kids might recognize characters to a certain extent, it's not like they have a toy for every one of them anymore.

Some of these second and third tier character's names might be recognizable to the populace, but on the whole they have no clue who they are.  Marvel has done a pretty good job of pushing past that over the past four years and I don't see any reason why they can't continue to do so.  Will it be harder with some of the upcoming properties like Guardians of the Galaxy and The Inhumans?  Yes.  But it IS possible.

My introduction to the Marvel Universe was via 711 Slurpees. That's right, way back "in the day" 711 had cups with major Sports figures, but then landed a contract with Marvel to issue plastic cups with all the Marvel characters including...the Inhumans! I was entranced by the brilliant colors and costume designs of the Avengers, Fantastic Four, Spiderman and Daredevil among many, many others.

I'm sure if any of those cups survive they are worth bank!

One thing people forget is that when one of these films is about to be released, EW, Yahoo! and every other entertainment outlet educates the public on the whys and wherefores of the character in question. And this started way back in 89 (at least) with 24/7 coverage of Batman including profiles of the Caped Crusader, the Joker etc etc.

So the ignorance factor isn't as big a deal as people here think, as long as the film itself is good and the marketing people are awake.

As a side note, The Spectacular Spiderman cartoon is my favorite version of Spidey.  It combines the modernization aspects of the Ultimate Spiderman with the Raimi origin and FOR ONCE, good funny quipping.

I really need to check that series out.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

Gladiator's gotsta show up in the cinematic Marvel world at some point, surely. Dwayne Johnson was born for that gig.

Which begs the question as to whether or not Gladiator would be tied up with Fox's X-Men rights?  I mean, it's pretty clear that they're not going to be able to take X-Men to cosmic levels any time soon, at least not without fully rebooting and recasting their universe, including Jackman.  A shame if tangential characters can effectively be tied up and shelved forever like that.

Looks like Johnson might be going cosmic as Lobo anyway.
 

I know he wasn't in the concept art, but I hope Adam Warlock has a part in the movie.

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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken 

Looks like Johnson might be going cosmic as Lobo anyway.
 

waitwaitwait.... what?!?!?

S.D. Bob Plissken, LOBO?  Is this another re-imagining of a Glen A. Larson Property?  The Misadventures of Sherrif Lobo...In Space?  Will B.J. McKay...The Space Trucker show up, with his sidekick...Bear, now an Alien Ape?  Will Ed Lauter return as Intergalactic Police Officer...Commander Cain?  A Dwayne Johnson film like this could really...ROCK!

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

 

waitwaitwait.... what?!?!?

Last week (or maybe the week before?), a rumor circulated that Johnson has been offered Lobo.  He confirmed this the other day on Twitter.  No signing yet, but given that his Journey 2 director is on board...........it might just happen.

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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken 

 

Last week (or maybe the week before?), a rumor circulated that Johnson has been offered Lobo.  He confirmed this the other day on Twitter.  No signing yet, but given that his Journey 2 director is on board...........it might just happen.

That post was a rollercoaster ride of emotions.

Oh no, poor Lobo.

Not for Johnsson, even though him being involved doesn't speak highly of it being as violent as I want, but the director of Journey 2? Uggh.

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Originally Posted by Bailey 

 

 I am just having trouble picturing Tony Stark next to a talking raccoon. 

"Is that a talking raccoon or do somebody put LSD in my Scotch?"

I'm sorry but Dwayne is Luke Cage or Shazam.

He just fucking is okay?

Not fucking some low rent comedy villain barely a notch above Howard The Duck.

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Originally Posted by The Rain Dog 

I'm sorry but Dwayne is Luke Cage or Shazam.

 

He just fucking is okay?

 

Not fucking some low rent comedy villain barely a notch above Howard The Duck.

Well, he ALMOST ended up as Black Adam before DC pulled the plug on the Shazam movie a few years back.

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Originally Posted by S.D. Bob Plissken 

 

Well, he ALMOST ended up as Black Adam before DC pulled the plug on the Shazam movie a few years back.

Thats right.

Still more than anything the dude IS Luke Cage...

...don't make me turn this car around, internet.

Holy crap!  Make a Power Man and Iron Fist action movie now!  Marvel needs its Martial Arts flick.

I stand by Michael Jai White for Luke Cage.  Between Johnson and Crews, there's tough competition . . . but come on.  It's Michael Jai White, for fuck's sake!

What is Iron Fist's ethnicity supposed to be any how?  I assume Asian?

He's always been the white guy American who learns the secrets of the East. That should stop now. Marvel seriously needs to be less J Crew, more Bennetton. 

MikeI, Daniel Thomas Rand was...9 when he ended up at K' un-L'un.  It was his mother and father, his dad's business partner that sought out a city that appears on earth every 10 years.  Rand Sr. was named heir of the city.  He left after the death of his wife.  On his return, his business partner killed him, and took control of his company.  His "brother" in K'un-Lun, took control of the city, and didn't help his "brother" even though his men could have saved Rand sr and his wife in addition to their son Daniel who trained to be the living weapon Iron Fist is.  I suspect Iron Fist was inspired by another popular early 70's Martial Artist...Chuck Norris.  So no, I do not want to see Daniel Thomas Rand-Kai, be another race.  There is another martial artist...Master Of Kung Fu whom is asian.  I definitely would love to see a Power Man & Iron Fist movie.  I would definitely go with Michael Jai White as Power Man.

Solve the PC problem and invert the ethnicities.

Power Man will be white and Iron Fist will be black.

The villain can be Sho'Nuff.

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Originally Posted by The NZ Natural 

I stand by Michael Jai White for Luke Cage.  Between Johnson and Crews, there's tough competition . . . but come on.  It's Michael Jai White, for fuck's sake!

Michael Jai White for Luke Cage and Scott Adkins for Iron Fist in a Heroes For Hire movie.  Use Crews, Johnson, and/or Ejiofor as villains throughout what would hopefully be a franchise.

Also, for maximum effect, set it in the '70s.