THE DARK KNIGHT RISES Post-release thread..... - Page 31

 

Doesn't he have huge scars down his spine visible in particular when he is kneeling down in the sewer hideout and Gordon's brought in? Not that this necessarily identifies the injury. It could just have been quick visual evidence of just how slapdash the prison doctor's work was.

 

What's interesting is that, suicidal/homicidal terrorist plan and vicious disregard for life and liberty aside, Bane was on one level quite the hero.

 

Or, to take a different perspective, an insanely overprotective paedophile.

Did they say why he wore the mask in the movie? I ask because there are a few people I work with who have differing (and grisly) views on why Bane wears the mask:

- one lady thinks it's because he has no jaw and needs the mask to speak.

- one guy thinks the mask holds his face together. Like some sort of pressure chamber.

I just assumed it constantly feeds him morphine/anasthetic due to the lingering effects of the beating he took.

Trailer for The Dark Knight Returns Part I: http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/07/31/exclusive-batman-the-dark-knight-returns-part-1-trailer/

 

You say potato...

 

I thought one of Bruce's prison companions said something along the lines that it kept the pain just enough at bay for Bane to function, but I may be misremembering or conflating an explanation I heard outside of the script.

Edited by jhp1608 - 7/31/12 at 7:42am

 

On one hand, that looks fantastic. Very cool.

 

OTOH....I have the graphic novel. I'm not sure I need it animated.

I remember some criticism of the internal logic of the prison - that it was too easily escapable had they knocked up a grappling hook system or something. Judging by this behind the scenes picture, the climb is intense.

 

 

Bearing in mind the prisoners are not likely to get much sustenance down there, I can well imagine the number of successful attempts to scale the walls would be somewhat low.

The movie never made the climb seem that long.  More teleporting!

 

That is what one of the prisoners said.  I think he was seriously injured in the prison fight that started during Talia's climb, then the doctor tried to repair the damage but only made it worse (didn't they say that he was a morphine addict or something?), then they gave him the mask so that he could function.

I think that rope was just a tad too short, and that's why no one could make the leap!

So when are we gonna get the side-scrolling platformer for TDKR?  I wanna relive that scene where Bruce jumps from one platform to the other!

 

I think there was plenty of visual information implying the length and difficulty of the climb!

Homercles cares not for mere visual information!  I require evocation!!!

 

I get why it was done the way it was done.  Obviously, seeing the whole climb would add too much time to an already long movie.  But the climb never came across daunting since all of the emphasis was put on the jump at the end. 

 

I don't actually really care though.  Hahahahah

Nooj is out of control in this thread. He's like a dog chasing cars!
 

 

That's basically been my response to all of the DTDVD DC (TOO MANY LETTERS) animated films. Hollow reenactment, the lot of them.

Not to mention...WHY are they splitting up The Dark Knight Returns into TWO films? Other than it seems like the thing to do these days.

They seem to have a weird fixation on their movies never ever ever going longer than seventy-five minutes. Even though that's apparently enough to do All-Star Superman (it soooooo isn't), they want to do TDKR justice. But there's too much in that book for seventy-five minutes, so two movies is of course the obvious solution.

 

I thought it was a budget issue.  The budget they're given isn't enough to do anything longer than 75 minutes a pop.

 

Nolan did show us more than one guy attempting the climb previous....and no successes. That shorthand did not work for you. It did for me.

 

 

 

Jerky McJerkison!

On my tombstone, it'll read:

 

"DIDN'T THINK TDKR WAS ALL THAT"

 

Nyaaaaah!

Ohhhh Mcnooj! You rascal, you.
 

I'm just jealous is all.

Finally, something we can agree on.

I'm taking you all down with me.

 

There was an article on Collider a few months ago where a production/costume designer or someone like that said that the metal tubes in Bane's mask feed into his jawline, constantly releasing anaesthetic. It was the same article that spoiled Liam Neeson for me.
 

Ah, here it is: http://collider.com/dark-knight-rises-bane-wanted-poster/167422/

 

So, presumably he'd need to be popping in fresh anaesthetic charges frequently...good thing those CIA jerks couldn't hold him, he'd be freakin' out!

 

I guess that would make sense. I would ask why they don't just, I dunno, not do another one for the year in order to beef up the one movie, but again, it'll make them more money this way.

It's really weird how Bane talks about growing up in the dark, ETC, and when we get to the prison it's got a moderate level of gloom, but it's also fairly sun drenched from that giant opening in the ceiling. That stuck out at me even on the first watch through. "This is NOT a prison in which someone would grow up and never see the light".

That does look fairly intimidating, even with the easy path to the top. I wonder why they didn't shoot in that way in the movie then? Because on film it looked like an extremely easy climb. I'm no mountaineer, but I've done some indoor rock climbing on walls where I'd have killed for a hold as clean and easy as can be found in abundance in Bane's prison wall.

 

Also, as a climber I was constantly aware that the falls Wayne sustained on that hemp rope should have broken his spine far worse than anything Bane ever did. Proper climbing rope has give to it. That rope would just stop you dead and break you like a twig. That was less of a big deal to me than the fact the wall looked so easy to climb.

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Perhaps he was speaking metaphorically.

 

Or they could be scars from that fight he got into when Talia made her escape.  

The Evil Warlord usually kept a tarp over it. Then held it down with a couple cinderblocks. Escape was impossible.
 

 

 

This is anything Animated DC in a nutshell.

 

Something about the animation on this makes Weller's voice seem too small. It's like they've over-animated Batman's mouth or something. And Gordon sounded like he had a southern accent.

 

Hopefully it'll be worth a watch, but I'm pretty happy with the comic and the short Ironside-voiced take on the material from the Batman animated series.

No, pretty sure he was speaking literally. When discussing the use of shadow as an advantage in combat during his first fight with Batman, and then looking at the sun and taking about how he had not seen the light till he was a man and escaped prison. That the prison was mostly devoid of light, Riddick style, seemed to be a plot point.

Isn't that the same fight the botched surgery followed, though. In other words, two aspects of the same event?

Ach, it's not that important...

"I do reckon I'll be quite a formidable adversary in the dark, darlin'.  Once I escape this dadgummed prison, that is.  BUH-KAW!!!"

 

I read it either way, although now I'm enjoying the rather amusing thought that had the Pit indeed been devoid of light, we'd have had a central 15 minute section in pitch darkness punctuated only by some dialogue and the occasional sound of people scrabbling up a wall and falling off.

"D'oh"

 

 

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

What I've always loved about Nooj is he's never a guy you'd have to ask "Why so serious?". Mofo has perspective up the wazoo.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with this and with the point about how each time Bruce fell and that rope snapped tight around his healing back I winced more than I did at any time Bane smashed him with his meaty Banefists. I know the dialogue told us it was practically impossible to escape and I know they showed us a couple of saps failing miserably but the mise-en-scène (that means "mice on screen" for those of you who don't speak France-ese) never sold it as being as daunting as that photo makes it look.

 

As much as I was one of those who had a blast with the film overall, I found all of the prison stuff very underwhelming. From Bruce's treatment and recovery to his mulitple escape attempts, that was the only time during the 2:40 I felt the movie dragging its ass.

 

Well, that and when Bruce decides to have a chat with Talia, and then with Selina, and then with Gordon, while A NUCLEAR TIME BOMB counts down into its final minutes a mere few yards way.

They really should have had a shot of Bruce looking up the well which showed just how far up it went.

 

Cause yeah, it looked much shorter in the movie.

 

I'm loving the Broken Arrow.  I vote the Dewey theme be Nooj's theme.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwokIKGTqxA

 

I'm really late to the party on this one, but...I liked it. Just liked it, though, nothing more and nothing less. For me, this is another example of aggressive stupidity in summer spectacle, a'la Prometheus (but perhaps reduced); The Dark Knight Rises is big, loud, and not too terribly concerned with making a ton of sense. In that regard it's something of a failure for me, since Nolan is a far better storyteller than TDKR suggests through its sloppiness (seen in its repetitiousness, both within and without the confines of its structure) and utter dopiness. I do appreciate that Nolan seems to be reveling in the comic book origins of his world and his characters, and there's great joy in how he personally plays around with all of the fun toys Batman has at his disposal while introducing us to Kyle and Bane and generally making his world feel like the sort of world where these tropes and concepts and ideas can exist. 

 

But I wish it was all in service to something tighter. This thing plays very, very loose. Also: sorry, Bane sounds fucking ludicrous. I think you can enjoy it on that level, but there's nothing intimidating about the off-the-stage theatricality of Hardy's voice work here. It's enormously fun, but ill-fitting considering who Bane is and what he represents, which turns out to be fuck all since he's not really the heavy here-- a move that turns out to be the film's biggest mistake. 

 

I did love the hell out of Bale here, much more than I have in the other movies, and I honestly wanted so, so much more of him and Hathaway bantering and playing off of one another. They put on some of the film's best moments, but more than that I think the ending would have really benefited from some more meat on their story's bones. 

 

This might sound a lot like the opinion of someone who hated it. I didn't hate it. It's a fine film. Just not the film it should have been.

 

Not all of them. "Crisis on Two Earths" was actually an improvement on its source material, I think. You also sometimes get those nifty shorts like the Green Arrow and Spectre ones.

 

But yeah, part of me is excited about "The Dark Knight Returns". Then, that same part of me was excited about the "Year One" adaptation, and it turned out to be a glorified motion-comic.

I saw it yesterday enjoyed it as a big ridiculous spectacle, Bale was really good here so was Levitt
and especially Hathaway. Was worried about her inclusion but it worked and gave the film a lighter
and sexy tone.

Hardy was great had a real presence on screen found the voice creepy and unsettling, like also
at times his loyal followers seemed to be quivering in the background. Someone needs to make
a gif of the random nod he gave in the stock exchange that bit made me laugh.

The first fight between Bats and Bane was brutal(didn't care for the 2nd) loved the shot of Bane plucking Bale out of
the dark you could see the shock on his face. Mask smash was not nice either.

There was so much going on in this film could of done without the very 24 esque ticking timebomb plot.
But overall an enjoyable ending to the trilogy.

But it was only a rumour, or an assumption that it was Bane that was born in the prison, and escaped, when it was actually Talia.

Who knows where Bane was brought up, or what he did to end up in the pit.

But he must be pretty old. How old was Talua supposed to be in the movie?

 

I meant seeing the film for the first time, where it tries to deceive you into thinking Bane is the child that escapes. You have those doctors saying they fixed him while you're trying to say he escaped as a child. I didn't catch this clue and put it together or would've known what to do with it. A buddy said, " I was wondering how he got back into the hole to be fixed."

I thought it's mentioned that the prison had an epidemic of leprosy, of which Bane was a victim? With that in mind, I imagine much of his jaw is rotted away. 

http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2012/07/your-sarcastic-guide-to-alleged-plot-holes-in-the-dark-knight-rises/4/