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Greatest miniature pyrotechnics in film

post #1 of 34
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The name says it all. Share your thoughts on what films have the greatest exploding models of all time, and don't be afraid to use obscure examples. For my choices:

V for Vendetta- Big Ben getting destroyed.

Star Wars- The X-Wings and Y-Wings getting shot down.

Terminator 2- The nuclear nightmare.

 

What are some of your choices?

post #2 of 34

It would be impossible to leave Independence Day out of here. There's some shoddy compositing and CGI everywhere, but whenever models were being physically blown up, they looked fantastic.

post #3 of 34

I think the oil refinery in Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla wins this thread.

 

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Hell, pretty much any Godzilla movie.

post #4 of 34
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I wouldn't go that far, but it is pretty great scene. Here are some more choices:

 


1941(the shelling of the amusement park, and the destruction of the dock.)
Aliens(the dropship crash)
Brazil(the ministry blowing up)
Gamera 2(Namely the impressive destruction of a whole tank battalion.
Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo(a brief but great bombing sequence)
 

post #5 of 34

Deep Rising has a really good one right at the end.

post #6 of 34

Did they destroy any of the "big-atures" in Lord of the Rings, or was stuff like Minas Tirith getting pounded on actual sets?

post #7 of 34
THE SPY WHO LOVED ME: the supertanker sequence is pretty awesome.
MOONRAKER: I have a soft spot for the space station destruction sequence. Parts of it are great and parts of it are cheesy as hell...just like the film. It's tonally perfect for the film on display.
post #8 of 34
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Originally Posted by Chris Spider View Post

Did they destroy any of the "big-atures" in Lord of the Rings, or was stuff like Minas Tirith getting pounded on actual sets?

 



Well, I know that the destruction of the Deeping Wall counts. The others, not so much.

Some choices:

 

Sink The Bismarck- The destruction of the Hood. (One of the best holy crap moments in movie history.)

Die Hard 2- The Plane Crash.

The Terminator- The tanker truck explosion.

post #9 of 34
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Originally Posted by Nexus-7 View Post

It would be impossible to leave Independence Day out of here. There's some shoddy compositing and CGI everywhere, but whenever models were being physically blown up, they looked fantastic.

I'd put 2012 in there as well. The aircraft carrier going through the White House was a miniature.

post #10 of 34

Also the refueling tanker in Air Force One, and the FBI building in X-Files: Fight the Future were great practical explosions.

post #11 of 34
I respectfully disagree on AIRFORCE ONE. Without exception, the special effects in that film were horrid and amateurish considering the technical ability of the effects houses at the time.
post #12 of 34
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post

I respectfully disagree on AIRFORCE ONE. Without exception, the special effects in that film were horrid and amateurish considering the technical ability of the effects houses at the time.

I'd mostly agree, I just think that explosion was well done. The way the fire reflects off the Air Force One model's hull looks really cool.

post #13 of 34
GUNS OF NAVARONE did a hell of a good job with the guns themselves. Watching them shoot and watching them blow up were both pretty convincing.
post #14 of 34
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Aliens-The dropship crash.

 

Submersion of Japan(1974)- The oil refinery explosion.

 

The Medusa Touch- The plane crash.

 

Run Silent Run Deep- The destruction of the various boats.

 

True Lies- The bridge explosion.

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post #16 of 34
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Well played Hypno Toad. Well played.
 

post #17 of 34
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Just thought of some more choices:

 

The Dam Busters- The part where one of the bombs destroy a mansion by accident.

 

Star Trek 6: Chang's Bird of Prey getting blown to bits.

 

Return of Jedi- The Sail Barge going up in flames.

 

Hell's Angels- The bombing of the ammunition dump.

 

War of the Worlds- L.A. town hall getting blasted by the heat ray.
 

post #18 of 34

Subcategory: Best Exploding Big Ben? I choose Mars Attacks!

 

Return of the Jedi : shield generator

Raiders of the Lost Ark : cleansing firestorm

The Living Daylights : bomb on the bridge

post #19 of 34
Thread Starter 

And here are some more choices:

 

Dog Soldiers: The exploding house.

 

Battan- Another great exploding bridge.

 

Goldeneye- The weapons plant going up in flames.

 

Dune- The exploding spice harvester montage.

post #20 of 34

I always forget that much of the rooftop explosion in Die Hard is miniature. Including the helicopter.

post #21 of 34

CLIFFHANGER: the climactic battle with the helicopter and the ladder.

post #22 of 34

I really need to watch The Bridges at Toko-Ri again. That's a miniature all right, built outdoors into natural terrain and filmed from a low-flying helicopter.

 

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post #23 of 34
Do only explosions count? There is a particular miniature disaster sequence that I really want to write about, but it is done with water, not fire.
Edited by Dr Harford - 7/22/12 at 6:41pm
post #24 of 34
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Originally Posted by Dr Harford View Post

Do only explosions count? There is a particular miniature disaster sequence that I really want to write about, but's done with water, not fire.


Sadly yes.

post #25 of 34

Dante's Peak had some really impressive miniature work.

 

post #26 of 34
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Dante's Peak had some really impressive miniature work.



Damn! I was literally going to be posting about Dante's Peak! That is why I asked about miniature water effects.
post #27 of 34

I had a feeling thats what you wanted to post about..

post #28 of 34

Fun fact: on Star Wars, Joe Viskocil used the exact same type of charge for the Death Star  teaser trailer logo explosion that he used for the jawas attaching Artoo's restraining bolt.


Edited by Hammerhead - 7/23/12 at 3:22am
post #29 of 34
Thread Starter 

Got some more:

 

 

Captain Horatio Hornblower R.N- The destruction of the Spanish Battle Ship.

 

Empire Strikes Back- The downed AT-At blowing up.

 

The Last War- The Nuclear Attack Montage.

 

The Towering Inferno- Name says it all.

 

Dr. No. The destruction of the title character's lair.
 

post #30 of 34

Batman Forever had some excellent miniature work, specifically I'd cite the helicopter crashing into the glass "eye", and then later the rotors chopping up the face of Gotham's statue of liberty.

post #31 of 34

I still think to this day that the bridge being taken out by mavericks in True Lies is the best miniature explosion of all time. I would love to see the BTS of  that sequence. The truck flying in the air has real weight when it lands. For many years I believed they blew up an old bridge for that sequence and that only the mavericks were an effect, but today when I watch the scene it's revealed through the debris landing in the water, the splashes don't look right.

post #32 of 34
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I still think to this day that the bridge being taken out by mavericks in True Lies is the best miniature explosion of all time. I would love to see the BTS of  that sequence. The truck flying in the air has real weight when it lands. For many years I believed they blew up an old bridge for that sequence and that only the mavericks were an effect, but today when I watch the scene it's revealed through the debris landing in the water, the splashes don't look right.

I was stunned when I learned that was miniature work. It looks like it's an actual bridge out there in Florida.

post #33 of 34

Since Bitches Leeve mentioned water giving away the illusion in True Lies, I wanted to post about Dante's Peak, given that miniature water effects are extremely hard to pull off convincingly. Even by 2002 and Two Towers, there are moments where the "water filmed in slow motion" technique used to stage an imitation deluge doesn't always look quite right. Everyone instinctively knows how water looks in motion, and so when your using a smaller volume of water to simulate a flood, often times you're left with water that doesn't quite react properly with the right sense of weight or scale.


Not the case in Dante's Peak,  a film VFXHQ.com declares to have "one of the best miniature disaster sequences in cinema history".

Excerpted from an article titled IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO HIDE A MINIATURE SET THAT'S SO BIG:

 

Quote:

The largest of the many mini sets at the airport was divided into two separate sections. On the right, a 30-foot-long bridge allowed toylike cars to cross a churning river. Off to the left, a 25-foot-tall dam blocked the river's path.

Perched above both sets was an expansive water tank filled with milky, murky water. On the opposite side of these sets, nearly 500 feet away, a larger tank sat empty. It waited, ready for the flood.

The water team was responsible for moving 780,000 gallons from the top of each set to the opposite side in only five minutes.

``We had to move about 140,000 gallons per minute. That's more water than all the water rides in California pumping at once,'' said Dean Miller, a special-effects supervisor who handled all the water work and engineering for the film.

When the water was finally loosed, it was felt for miles and struck with the force of a 3.0 earthquake.

These days it is harder than ever to pull off a convincing flood effect on film. After last March, everyone knows just what the worst case scenario looks like in real life. Though Eastwood's Hereafter had an admirably staged tsunami scene, our eyes could still tell that we were watching a clever effect. With the bridge sequence in Dante's Peak, however, which I recently rewatched for the first time in years, I was initially unsure how they'd pulled off the shots I was watching. In the end, the only part of the scene that doesn't hold up are some wonky composites for shots where we're inside the cars looking out. The wideshots themselves are utterly impeccable:

 

 

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Edited by Dr Harford - 7/31/12 at 12:30pm
post #34 of 34
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Got some more choices:

 

The Flying Tigers- The climactic bombing sequence.

 

Duck, You Sucker!- The destruction of the troop transport train.

 

Thunderbird 6- Just watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2bbVkryi1Y&feature=plcp

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