WHAT WILL BECOME OF GANGSTER SQUAD?

it's crap like this that let's evil fucks think they won

Updated: http://www.chud.com/101335/what-will-become-of-gangster-squad/

Ugh see I dug that sequence in the trailer.

So, what, they'll just shoot a bunch of people someplace else?

Much more respectable, hopefully they pick a church.

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson 

So, what, they'll just shoot a bunch of people someplace else?

Though, I imagine  it's the whole "shooting at a crowd of people who probably aren't Gangsters" thing that's probably worrying WB.

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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt 

Much more respectable, hopefully they pick a church.

I'm for it!

Yeah it was one of the more exciting scenes in the trailer, but I always thought it was the bad guys opening fire, not the squad.

Another thing, are there no longer comments on the main site? Or am I blocked from commenting now? Haha

Fuck.  I was actually thinking about this yesterday.  I loved the look of that scene, seemed like a nice piece of meta fitting the over the top, stylized aesthetic.

Just goes to show what a bunch of pussies Hollywood suits are. I can see delaying Gangster Squad, but I call bullshit on cutting the movie theater scene out.

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Originally Posted by TheCatfishCommander 

it's crap like this that let's evil fucks think they won

Yes, this is exactly the wrong reaction. Hopefully we see this film intact once this hysteria blows over. Theater shootings are something that happens. We're not allowed to have a movie that features one? If someone watches Gangster Squad in 15 years, they should be denied the original vision because there happened to be an actual shooting close to when the film was released?

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Originally Posted by Dr Harford 

Theater shootings are something that happens.

Wha...?

I don't even know what to say to that.

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Originally Posted by Dr Harford 

Yes, this is exactly the wrong reaction. Hopefully we see this film intact once this hysteria blows over. Theater shootings are something that happens. We're not allowed to have a movie that features one? If someone watches Gangster Squad in 15 years, they should be denied the original vision because there happened to be an actual shooting close to when the film was released?

That's the way studios work...they don't think about stuff like that, they are only interested in this movie's box office.  They'll have you believe they are being respectful to the public, but it's just about money.  They don't want to risk turning the immediate crowds off...which might effect box office.  It actually makes them more pitiful and deviant than at first glance.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

 

Wha...?

I don't even know what to say to that.

My point is that apparently theater shootings happen in real life. We shouldn't censor film to avoid uncomfortable topics or scenarios. Film shouldn't be a sanitized version of reality.

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

 

That's the way studios work...they don't think about stuff like that, they are only interested in this movie's box office.  They'll have you believe they are being respectful to the public, but it's just about money.  They don't want to risk turning the immediate crowds off...which might effect box office.  It actually makes them more pitiful and deviant than at first glance.

Sad but true.

I remember as a kid a story about a guy who opened fire in a screening of Schindler's List back in 1993, but I was too young to see any fallout from that. Or maybe the lack of hyper-connected, 24-hour news culture resulted in it not impacting the way we do things, day-to-day.

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Originally Posted by Greg Clark 

I remember as a kid a story about a guy who opened fire in a screening of Schindler's List back in 1993, but I was too young to see any fallout from that. Or maybe the lack of hyper-connected, 24-hour news culture resulted in it not impacting the way we do things, day-to-day.

Ironically, it's that hyper-active 24-hour news culture that causes terrible events to dissolve from public consciousness much faster than before.  Which makes WB's decision all the more infuriating.  I mean how quickly did the Zimmerman/Martin tragedy last in terms of public frenzy?  A few weeks at most?  Then it was on to the next yahoo gossip item.

This isn't a "yahoo gossip item". I'm all for leaving GANGSTER SQUAD untouched, but the myopia about just how shocking and impactful last Thursday's events were is astounding.
 

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

This isn't a "yahoo gossip item". I'm all for leaving GANGSTER SQUAD untouched, but the myopia about just how shocking and impactful last Thursday's events were is astounding.
 

If we're no longer allowed to make movies with scenes that echo shocking or impactful events, then the bad guys have won. Especially since this movie was already finished before this happened, it's the exact wrong move to cut the content. Delay the film, sure, but don't cut it. 

Maybe Fleischer doesn't want to delay it and is happy to shoot an alternative scene. Maybe pulling it isn't an option for whatever reason. Maybe there are more important freedoms to fight for than an artist and/or studio reshooting something in the wake of a tragedy. I understand the ideological reasoning behind finding this move unsatisfactory, I even agree with it, but I'm not going to start frothing at the mouth and calling the studio bastards over it.

You guys would have crucified Kubrick back when he pulled A CLOCKWORK ORANGE.
 

His family was being threatened...a bit different.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather 

This isn't a "yahoo gossip item". I'm all for leaving GANGSTER SQUAD untouched, but the myopia about just how shocking and impactful last Thursday's events were is astounding.
 

I'm not saying it's not shocking--hold you horses. I was good and disgusted all weekend over this news. I was just commenting on how a similar event 20 years ago didn't lead to calls for less violence in movies, or maybe it did and those calls were dismissed as in the moment reactions. And I do think part of the difference is the studios didn't live in a 24-hour, every-move-is-watched news culture, giving them more eggshells to walk on in this instance.

Sorry, Greg - that wasn't aimed at you, at all.
 

Honestly, it should just be released "as is" on its intended release date.  The problem with postponing it a few months is that you run the risk of the general public assuming that the sequence is a sensationalist response to the Aurora shooting, which just sets yourself up for even more scrutiny and controversy.  Better to let things proceed as planned and have theaters post a warning about the content.

"Coming soon on Blu-ray -- see the version of Gangster Squad you couldn't see in theaters!"

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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson 

"Coming soon on Blu-ray -- see the version of Gangster Squad you couldn't see in theaters!"

Well yeah I at least hope we get that. Or like I said set it somewhere even more unerving that doesn't touch on a national tragedy, like a church.

If they cut that sequence from the film, mark my words, it will not be on the Blu-ray/DVD and neither will the trailers depicting it.  They'll bury it.  Watched the World Trade Center teaser for Spider-Man (2002) on home video lately?  Didn't think so.

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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt 

Well yeah I at least hope we get that. Or like I said set it somewhere even more unerving that doesn't touch on a national tragedy, like a church.

The thing is though, that the movie theatre setting might be thematically relevant because of the film being set in L.A. during the Golden Age of Hollywood. Replacing it with a scene in a church wouldn't work in the same way if that is the case. Obviously I'm just speculating though.

This is the kind of shit that makes me not want to be a filmmaker. As others have said, if films can't comment on real life then what do we have but a sanitized reality? I'm so sick of studio decisions and groupthink trumping good films and filmmakers. What ever happened to lighting a match under the public's ass? I'm just disgusted. I mean a tragedy's a tragedy but lets not let the killer keeping getting publicity out of it.  

Looks like the film is pushed back to Jan. 11. 

WB is so fucking stupid...delayed movies end up being black sheep and box office suffers as a result.  If they'd manned the fuck up and kept the orginal release date and scene, they'd make more money.  Nobody is going to skip this movie because of that scene.  Nobody is going to walk out when that scene occurs in the film.  It's set in the 40s (right?), it's about gangsters after the mob...if it were present day and a lone gunman with riot gear, then they'd have a point.  It's a terrible tragedy, but people are already moving on with their lives...by Sept., this would've been fine.

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

Looks like the film is pushed back to Jan. 11. 

 

WB is so fucking stupid...delayed movies end up being black sheep and box office suffers as a result.  If they'd manned the fuck up and kept the orginal release date and scene, they'd make more money.  Nobody is going to skip this movie because of that scene.  Nobody is going to walk out when that scene occurs in the film.  It's set in the 40s (right?), it's about gangsters after the mob...if it were present day and a lone gunman with riot gear, then they'd have a point.  It's a terrible tragedy, but people are already moving on with their lives...by Sept., this would've been fine.

They may as well just re-title the movie, "HOT POTATO" accompanied by a poster of Warner Brothers executives washing their hands clean.  

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

Looks like the film is pushed back to Jan. 11. 

 

WB is so fucking stupid...delayed movies end up being black sheep and box office suffers as a result.  If they'd manned the fuck up and kept the orginal release date and scene, they'd make more money.  Nobody is going to skip this movie because of that scene.  Nobody is going to walk out when that scene occurs in the film.  It's set in the 40s (right?), it's about gangsters after the mob...if it were present day and a lone gunman with riot gear, then they'd have a point.  It's a terrible tragedy, but people are already moving on with their lives...by Sept., this would've been fine.

Probably not but it's going to pull people out of the movie once that scene hits. 

I get pulled out of movies all the time.  For instance, when a sex scene hits.  So the audience is pulled out for a beat...poor them. 

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

 

I get pulled out of movies all the time.  For instance, when a sex scene hits.  So the audience is pulled out for a beat...poor them. 

You pull out for a beat during sex scenes?  Gross.

Glad someone caught it.

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Originally Posted by Ambler 

 

Glad someone caught it.

Can't help it... I have the mentality of a 12 year old.