Fringe the Final Season

Can't wait to see how it unfolds. The series had it's ups and downs but was always at it's best when it got overambitious.

Well said, Dean. I heartily agree.

It's ON!

Can we please, FINALLY get John Noble an Emmy nomination?  That last scene was remarkable.

It really was.

 

Good premiere episode. Nice place-setter (I hope) for the rest of the season.

 

I can't have been the only one waiting for Olivia to pull the "you're not my daughter" routine and kick her ass until someone else convinced her otherwise? I swore up and down that was about to happen. Glad it didn't though...

They just gave it to Jon Cryer from 2 and a Half Men.  They clearly aren' concerned with quality work.

 

Strong start.  I'm going to guess music is what will bring Walter to remember the plan.

 

I wonder if that first scene is the only flashback we will get.  I want to see the plan hatch, them Ambering themselves, and the events that caused their daughter to go missing.

 

Still love the opener.

Really enjoyed it as well. 

 

Ready to start with the mind bending so I'll jump right in - if the Observers can time travel and read minds how do you beat them? It seems that the Plan would have to involve manipulating them into doing something to undo their already accomplished conquest. So...are the events we already witnessed actually part of the Plan? I'm thinking that the Observer's understanding at the end (the little girl is important to the plan) relates back to the opening sequence where they clearly are coming for her. Which is all just part of the Plan, right?

 

Man this is going to be fun! 

 

Yeah, good luck with that. For a show such as Fringe to do anything at the Emmies it would have to hit Lost numbers and The Wire critical acclaim.

 

Torv continues to do great work too. And so is Jackson.

 

That actually makes a lot of sense.  I think given the amount of references to what happened in the aftermath of "the invasion" I think its inevitable we will get more flashbacks.  We have to see more September too right?

 

Ive been a fan of this show for a while and I am really impressed with where its gone.  I remember midway through season 2 thinking I was gonna stop watching it but then it kept changing for the better. 

 

The time shift is just another example of how great the show is at evolving.

 

I have been singing John Noble's praises for a while now too as have critics who actually watch FRINGE.  But alas, he will likely go the way of all other great genre shows that go unrecognized by The Emmy's.

I forgot to add how cool it was that the music in Walter's head at the interrogation was Preisners A Song For The Unification Of Europe from Three Colors: Blue. Someone on the show is a cinephile.

 

I wonder if the words have any meaning  regarding this season.

I completely missed the 4th season last year. I cut off my cable, and Fox's online policy was bizarre. I picked up Seasons1-3 on Blu-ray and will pick up 4 when I find it. Having watched the first 2 seasons close to each other, you can see the internal struggle of the show trying to find where it should go. Massive Dynamics is long seen as the enemy, but then seems to turn on a dime by the end of Season 2.  Some of the monster of the week stories were inspired, and John Noble's switch from when he is missing the pieces of his brain to when those pieces are in place is just amazing. That one scene from Season 2 completely informs Walternate.  I love this show, and all the actors are killing it. Even Pacey, who I thought would have been the weak link in the series.

Decent opener, but I hope they involve Earth 2 somehow.

My love affair with this show continues unabated, totally dug the first episode, can't wait to see where this season goes.

 

Hell, I can't wait for the box set of this series.

Was the show actually supposed to make me feel sorry for the loyalist? Cute.

I was hoping he would rasp "Chelios!" but never mind.

I liked it. A bit heavy on the cheese with all that 'looking into Olivia's eyes and being certain everything's fine" gobbledeegook but the show has always had that stuff so I'll let it slide.

And call me a sucker but I actually believed the loyalist. I wasn't tearing up or anything but I can think of others who are more deserving candidates for atom destabilisation.

 

If the Resistance doesn't execute collaborators is it really a resistance?

How many episodes does the loyalist come into play to help the Fringe Team? I say in 6 episodes

damn, Desmond's head... that was some dark shit. I love the go-for-broke feel of this last season.

So are we really going to spend the last episodes of the series scavenger hunting?

When Peter and Olivia had that personal moment, it desperately made me want to SEE the immediate aftermath of the invasion, and how everything turned to shit. I know budget and time restraints are why we can't, but man. A two hour movie would have set the future up nicely. I miss our old world and everything just seems unsettled and out of place in this new one.

I would also like to know of what became of the altverse. I know they closed that story last season, but we spent four years getting to know and bond with those characters too. Even if their fate is ultimately worldwide destruction, I still want to know.

I keep feeling that the show has gone off track somewhere. The Observers this season are almost completely different from the ones we've seen before. Aren't they supposed to be able to see into the future and look into the infinite possible futures? The Show seems like V: Season 3 now.

 

Also i am still finding it difficult to accept that the events in Seasons 1-3 have been written out of existance.

I'm digging this season so far, but it is a really weird change from previous seasons, particularly since it's not even a natural extension of the show or the observer storyline. They transformed from future-preserving time-travelers to those things in Dark City without even the slightest hint of warning.

Other than going from "cold" to "eeeevil", the observers ahven't changed objectives, we just didn't know what their objectives were. In THIS show, we should've guessed they wouldn't be benevolent.

 

The only "future-preserving" they were trying to do was to fix their own mistake. I would think it'd be hard to predict the future (actually your past) if you muck it up.

 

I'm enjoying the ride. It's fun to see this story that they'd never have been able to do if they cared about getting renewed.

I thought this episode was a little too much wheel spinning, and I don't want to spend the rest of the season scavenger hunting. Aren't the observers capable of teleporting? I don't like that the Observer powers seem inconsistent, why send a motorcade of humans to find the Fringe team when you can just show up there and fuck everything up yourself?

I kind of hoped that the bark people were going to turn out to be proto-Observers (come on, their whole thing is that they're hiding out recording history and not getting involved!) and they were going to have to be killed to fuck up the Observers' evolution.

I enjoyed the episode, but I have to concur about the Observers. Their powers have changed and diminished without explanation. I'm pretty sure they could teleport.


Felix, I don't think seasons 1-3 have ceased to exist. Not according to the writers. I think it's just a different timeline.

 

They didn't teleport; they time-traveled. They've changed the future, which is their past. It makes sense that they can no longer move through time as freely as they could before. This timeline is their present, not their past.

I guess my point is that we saw September catch bullets and take out a room of thugs pretty easily. Why would they need a human army? How many observers are there? I suppose these questions can still be answered but basically all the observers seem capable of doing now is reading minds and smiling creepy.

Philistines, all of you.

Plenty of Observer teleportation tonight, so guess we answered that question.

 

Loved Walter's complete non-reaction to the taser.  "You electrocuted me!"

 

It was good to have Broyle's back (bad makeup aside), and unfortunately, I correctly figured either he or Etta were not going to survive the episode.  Sad to see it was the latter, as I liked the actress and thought she was a good addition to the crew, but it does seem to lend credence to what I've been thinking the ultimate end game will be.  Basically, they defeat the observers, obtain their tech, go back in time, and completely erase this whole timeline.

 

In Walter's video was a mention of time and how particles do not flow in a single direction. So it already sounded like his plan involved time travel, especially since it originated in part from September. It makes sense since the timeline they're in is essentially ruined. Even with the observers gone, you'd have a decimated environment and a population of loyalists at war with a resistance that would not likely be very forgiving. Throw in Etta, and it's an untenable future for anything but an ending far more bleak than I suspect this show will have.

 

The actress that played Etta sure did a great job of making it seem like she belonged in the show all along.

 

And I could watch a whole season of Walter & Co. unleashing old Fringe cases on the observers. "Dammit, I still can't think of any uses for a wereporcupine! Who came up with this one?!?"

 

Amen.

Oh man, that was a bummer.

 

At first I thought the toxin was a tad cruel but after it ended I'd be gladly crop dusting whole loyalist areas with it.

Such a bummer of an ending.

 

Even with her dying I figured it can't be the end of her.  The time travel bit is a great guess.  All the shit they put Peter & Olivia through I just can't see them killing off their faughyer.

 

And count me in for more Fringe cases.  Drop a few wereporcupine in the middle of an Observers meeting and watch the fun.

You know what would make sense? If our characters, facing these extremely long odds against a nigh unstoppable, technologically advanced race of future humans who have (I assume) most of the majority population of earth on their side through fear, intimidation and the threat of death, go "Hmmm, maybe these guys are too tough for us. Maybe we need some help...anybody know where we could find an entire planet of people who kind of owe us for saving their asses and probably were already advancing at a superior rate technologically to some extent due to a heightened, semi-militarized society? Wait a minute....."

Yeah, we need to see Lincoln, Bolivia and Walternate again. They have to adress what happened to them in the Finale.

 

I am sure we'll see Etta again somehow.

It's damn lucky that The Observers don't have the ability to travel through time or anything, because then this entire season would be offer in one episode. And I'm also very glad that we've been given a plausible reason why The Observers went from observing to invading.

 

Thank goodness for this season. It's not as though the last season ended on a relative high with most of the narrative threads wrapped up.

 

 

 

/Sarcasm

I like this.

 

Hope they'll bring her back in the Finale though.

I would just like to see more of Georgina Haig in general.

 

She is smoking hot.

News on the series final of Fringe.

Oh my, did Peter just become the first Observer? I think the video game chase of Walter's plan has been deftly played as a trick, there is something else going on.

I always had a feeling Peter would be an Observer.  I just hope if the plan is to reset that he's not sacrificing himself.

 

And from the previews Peter has some Neo in him.

 

Is Peter September?

So very good. Remind me why Noble hasn't received a supporting actor Emmy nomination again?

Because the old, white emmy voters don't like scifi, love safe & boring choices, and don't really watch the shows.

 

Peter going Neo is awesome.  I can't see a way for a happy ending.  Peter is going to have to sacrifice himself to save everyone including Etta.

I have a feeling that the little Observer kid is actually going to be September.

I've been a little down on this season, but the past episode has got me giddy again. I like the focus on individual characters - Walter in this case - with the mythology playing out in the background. I feel that Olivia has been neutered so far and hope that she gets a more prominent storyline soon. Peter turning into an Observor is pretty cool. I'm interested to see where they take this.
 

 

Too true.

 

I'm loving this final season big time.

To be honest, this was the first episode this season I loved without caveats. Loved the pocket universe. I loved them finally addressing the fact that Walter's brain is complete now. I loved Neo-Peter. Olivia seems pretty sidelined this year though. I mean she lost her daughter and we haven't seen shit from the show about her instead focusing on Peter and Walter.

I'm guessing Peter goes full Observor and time travels back in time to stop the impending invasion.