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Copper -BBC America

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http://www.bbcamerica.com/copper/

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From Academy Award® winner Barry Levinson and Emmy® Award winner Tom Fontana, “Copper” is a gripping crime drama series, set in 1864 New York City, filled with intrigue, corruption, mystery and murder. Kevin Corcoran (Tom Weston-Jones, “MI-5″), an Irish-American former boxer turned cop, returns from the Civil War to find his wife missing and his daughter dead. Corcoran seeks justice for the powerless in the notorious immigrant neighborhood of Five Points. Bonded by battle to two Civil War compatriots – the wayward son of a wealthy industrialist and an African-American physician who secretly assists the forensic investigations – Corcoran is thrust into the contrasting worlds of elegant and corrupt Fifth Avenue, and the emerging African-American community in Northern Manhattan. The three men share a secret from the battlefield that inextricably links their lives forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLC28IGCAPI

 

The 1st episode was on last night. I was sufficiently intrigued to want to see where it goes. It seems like it's got a pretty good production budget although it does seem a little 'small'  to me when compared to a show like Boardwalk Empire. 

 

I find it interesting that this takes place in 1864 and Deadwood takes place in 1870's...kindred spirits of a sort.

 

Sunday night tv is getting too damned busy.

post #2 of 22

This airs censored?

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VTRan, I thought the first episode was...Awesome!  Finally a cop show with some action.  It is good to see that there are properly...EEEEEEEEvil Characters for the cops to put down.  Shootouts, brass knuckles are a staple (likely a predecessor to the cop's Baton), and dealing with more corrupt supervisors.

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So yeah does this air in the uk uncensored? Is there anything worth censoring? I only ask because I want to know if I will have to wait and see the uk cuts as I always do.

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The wife and I thought this was great...well paced and engaging with just the right amount of grit.  The acting was very solid across the board, too.  This looks to be very promising.

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So yeah does this air in the uk uncensored? Is there anything worth censoring? I only ask because I want to know if I will have to wait and see the uk cuts as I always do.

 

I seem to remember that there was one audio edit(?)

 

There was a good bit of leading man ass on the screen.

post #7 of 22

Just watched the first episode of this on Netflix. It's formulaic to a T, almost comically so. You've got the cop with missing wife and dead child, the personal connection to a murder victim, the rich guy beyond the grasp of the law etc. etc. At the same time, the period setting and some decent performances do enough to elevate it above your run-of-the-mill procedural. I especially like the old-timey CSI aspects, and the relative impotence of the police force. It's got me for at least another episode, but I'm curious as to whether anyone ended up making it all the way thru.

 

Oh, and I also like how the MO of the dirty cops from The Shield is just business as usual in the 1860s.

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Oh man, 2 episodes in and shit has indeed gotten real. This really is The Shield: 1862. It's a little overblown at times, but at this point the hooks are in.

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 This really is The Shield: 1862.

 

Really? Don't lie to me because you know I've got to check this out now.

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Oh man, 2 episodes in and shit has indeed gotten real. This really is The Shield: 1862. It's a little overblown at times, but at this point the hooks are in.

Slow down........it's not bad but I feel like the deeper you get it's going to be not so Shield like.

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Just to cover my butt, I should say it's like The Shield in terms of subject matter, not so much tone. In that respect its more in the Horatio Hornblower/Spartacus camp of being not quite cartoony but acted in relatively big, broad strokes. That being said, I'd definitely say it's worth watching at least an episode. I'm 3 deep so far, and the pilot seems like a fair representation of the series.

 

EDIT: Typed this before Walt's reply. Like I said, only 3 in, so definitely take my opinion with a grain of salt.

 

As for why the Shield comparison, spoilers:

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

It seemed pretty obvious Corcoran was going to kill the guy, but the manner/speed with which it occurred was surprisingly brutal. I would have bet money that was a season finale move.


Edited by Splatoon - 5/20/13 at 1:13am
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Just to cover my butt, I should say it's like The Shield in terms of subject matter, not so much tone. In that respect its more in the Horatio Hornblower/Spartacus camp of being not quite cartoony but acted in relatively big, broad strokes. That being said, I'd definitely say it's worth watching at least an episode. I'm 3 deep so far, and the pilot seems like a fair representation of the series.

No it's very much not bad at all. I can promise you though it's not going to reach the same level as The Shield.

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No it's very much not bad at all. I can promise you though it's not going to reach the same level as The Shield.

 

Man, if I held all shows to that standard I wouldn't get to watch much.

 

I gotta say, the TV shows are one of the most love/hate aspects of Netflix for me. On the one hand, I can be exposed to a huge chunk of great television I might have otherwise missed (it's how I ended up getting into Spartacus). On the other hand, not only am I ludicrously behind the times (hey, you guys hear about this Adventure Time? Pretty good.), but in some cases the show's already been cancelled by the time I get around to seeing it. At least if Copper holds my interest I've got another season to look forward to.

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Man, if I held all shows to that standard I wouldn't get to watch much.

 

I gotta say, the TV shows are one of the most love/hate aspects of Netflix for me. On the one hand, I can be exposed to a huge chunk of great television I might have otherwise missed (it's how I ended up getting into Spartacus). On the other hand, not only am I ludicrously behind the times (hey, you guys hear about this Adventure Time? Pretty good.), but in some cases the show's already been cancelled by the time I get around to seeing it. At least if Copper holds my interest I've got another season to look forward to.

Well thats the thing I don't mind something a little......middle of the road sometimes. While I would love everything to be Deadwood I know that isn't possible and sometimes I just want to sit down and enjoy something for what it is and that's Copper. It's no amazing but it's still better than most shows out there im just saying don't expect to be hanging off the edge of your seat, you won't. 

 

Speaking of getting to shows late im just now getting into Game of Thrones, just finished the 6th episode of season 2. I had my doubts about it but everyone seems to be in love with it and well it seems everyone was right, I love it as well. Ironically enough it was the show being named "most pirated tv show" that broke the camels back and got me to take a look finally.

post #15 of 22

Marathoned this at a friend's house a couple of weeks ago, and enjoyed it quite a bit.

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Alright, 4 episodes in, think I'm gonna crash but so far so good. Glad to hear you enjoyed it Jacob, always nice to know there isn't a steep drop-off. I think Walt pretty much summed it up: probably not a classic, but entertaining and better than a lot of shows out there.For me the historical angle gives it a little extra hook. Also, while I gave the pilot guff for being formulaic, it's definitely going in some interesting directions at this point.

post #17 of 22

we watched it when it aired om BBC America and really enjoyed it.  Stick with it, it's solid.

post #18 of 22

S2 of this reportedly starts on June 23rd.

post #19 of 22

Caught a few more episodes with lunch. Quality's holding steady, and I'm really impressed with the show's willingness to mix things up from episode to episode. Less impressed with Netflix's seeming inability to not spoil the surprises in the episode summary.

post #20 of 22

Quite enjoyed this.  As stated above, it's not top-tier stuff, but it's certainly head and shoulders above so much shit out there by a wide margin.  The characters are all quite well fleshed out and I loved the look and feel.

 

Looking forward to season 2.

post #21 of 22
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I view the show as a poor man's 'Gangs of New York: the series'.

Not bad by any means, but not "wow!" great.

I'd love to have seen what they could do if they had "Boardwalk Empire" money.

post #22 of 22

Just finished this up today, really enjoyed it. Not on my all-time great list, but at the upper end of the B-tier if that makes any sense. The one thing I'm a little torn about is the show's overall pace. On the one hand, it's impressive how they manage to cram what in other shows would be multiple seasons worth of story-lines and content into just ten episodes. It definitely adds a layer of excitements knowing nothing is a given from episode to episode. On the other hand, I honestly wouldn't have minded a few more instances of the cops just doing their thing. The fruitcake episode really sums up the pros of both approaches. The early surprise was great, but I also enjoyed just seeing the detective work unfold. The only other minor complaint I have is with Eva's character, namely:

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

How the murder of Molly became sort of a none issue by the end of the series. It certainly colored and added a layer of tension to her dealings with Annie and the wife, but she seems so composed and even-keeled towards the end that she almost comes off as bi-polar. To be fair the writers may have decided to hold back SOMETHING for Season 2, but it just seemed like a thread that wasn't so much dangling as basically forgotten.

 

Regardless, entertaining show and I'm gonna have to see if there's some way I can catch the BBC episodes as they drop, because this one is good enough to follow week to week.

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