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post #151 of 223

Eh, tired of these forest mutants.

 

I'd never count this show out for crazy ideas, but losing Sister Mary and Arden this early is not how I would have played it. Is Thredson in charge now or something? Is the Devil in Fiennes, and why would we want that?

post #152 of 223
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Eh, tired of these forest mutants.

 

I'd never count this show out for crazy ideas, but losing Sister Mary and Arden this early is not how I would have played it. Is Thredson in charge now or something? Is the Devil in Fiennes, and why would we want that?

 

The angel of death said she was taking both of them so if the demon changed bodies again they're cheating us.

 

I'm kind of hoping the asylum just spirals into chaos.  Two dead authority figures, the monsignor shaken in his faith and Thredson having his own agenda is certainly the kind of things that could lead to anarchy.

 

Really curious to see what happens to Thredson if he actually does try to harm the baby.  Seems likely at this point that he ends up strapped down on the alien ship getting cut to pieces by the end.

post #153 of 223

Well, they did reveal that the world knows who Bloodyface is/was. Unless they've got some crazy twist to change up the thus-far pointless fast forwards.

post #154 of 223
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Well, they did reveal that the world knows who Bloodyface is/was. Unless they've got some crazy twist to change up the thus-far pointless fast forwards.

 

 

McDermott could actually be Kit and Grace's baby, that's the only twist that maybe makes sense at this point (...but who knows what they could roll out down the road)

 

 

EDIT - OR MAYBE Thredson is in some asylum/dying at the season finale and having some fantasy flash-forwards about his legacy. Yeah, that one would be classic AHS misdirection. 

post #155 of 223
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What was the tease last year?
God, I loved that musical number. Such a bizarre tone was struck.

 

 

Yeah, I was watching it going "wow, this so tonally off from pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE EVER IN THE SERIES"....but being that it's AHS, I just shrugged and went with it. 

 

 

I was actually kinda disappointed at the end that it was only a fantasy sequence. 

post #156 of 223

Those creatures can't all be dead.  Something ripped Maroon 5's arm off.  That wasn't entirely human.  So I'm thinking someone like Thredson has to be alive and continuing Arden's legacy.  Little Bloody face and his poppa will meet in the future.

 

Then again this is Ryan Murphy.  He has the attention span of a chihuahua and probably forgot what he did in the first episode.

post #157 of 223

 The last episode disappointed me a bit. MaryDevil, Dr Arden and the mutants where dispatched too easily. The real Mary gaining control long enough to be pushed is cliched writing. I wanted Jude and her to have an epic battle.

post #158 of 223
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 The last episode disappointed me a bit. MaryDevil, Dr Arden and the mutants where dispatched too easily. The real Mary gaining control long enough to be pushed is cliched writing. I wanted Jude and her to have an epic battle.

 

 

To be fair, this season had a HELL of a lot of balls in the air. It's only common sense that some had to be eliminated sooner than others....still, I agree that while Dr Arden and the forest mutants won't be missed THAT much (they weren't really all that key to the plot, they were just...there), I AM going to miss Lily Rabe as MaryDevil. 

post #159 of 223

She was awesome!

post #160 of 223

Yeah, that last scene with Fiennes and Rabe could have used a rewrite. It felt kinda like the devil just rolled over for them. 

 

I like Quinto, but Thredson has been less interesting than MaryDevil and Arden, that's for sure. Ah, well. Almost done anyway.

post #161 of 223

Got to looking up Lily Rabe on IMDB-her mom is Jill Clayburgh(worked with Sarah Paulson on a tv series) and her dad wrote the screenplay for The Firm and wrtote the play/movie Hurlyburly.

post #162 of 223
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I like Quinto, but Thredson has been less interesting than MaryDevil and Arden, that's for sure. 

 

It's all relative - if MaryDevil hadn't been around, we'd be loving the shit out of Thredson, instead of kicking rocks - "aw shit, now we're just stuck with Quinto playing this Oedipal psychopath and a lobotomized/crazy Jessica Lange. BO-RING." 

post #163 of 223
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Got to looking up Lily Rabe on IMDB-her mom is Jill Clayburgh(worked with Sarah Paulson on a tv series) and her dad wrote the screenplay for The Firm and wrtote the play/movie Hurlyburly.

 

 

Excellent legwork, Watson! 

 

(edit - you left out that her dad wrote Casualties of War )

post #164 of 223

David Rabe is legitimately awesome. Hurlyburly is one of the better American plays of the last century, for real. Gonna be getting produced a hundred years from now.

 

I got to see Lily Rabe on Broadway with Alan Rickman (...and Jerry O'Connell) last year. She was good. She got naked.

post #165 of 223
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I got to see Lily Rabe on Broadway with Alan Rickman (...and Jerry O'Connell) last year. She was good. She got naked.

Was O'Connell up to the task?

post #166 of 223

In that particular scene, it was Rickman who was up to the task.

 

Or, you mean as an actor? Yeah, O'Connell was fine.

post #167 of 223
Something I thought interesting at the time, but now find lacking was Pepper refering to MaryDevil in front of Arden as "your whore nun." Was that the aliens denying the Devil having any real importance in the world, or do they not know it exists?
post #168 of 223

That's another reason to be disappointed: now we'll never know who would win in a fight between the Devil and aliens. 

 

Seriously though, they didn't have to treat these as separate story lines: they were all coming together quite nicely! Heck, Threadson was about to join Sister Mary Devil's team, meaning we'd have an alliance between a serial killer, a nazi scientist and a devil-possessed nun versus an alien threat! With Ian McShane's deranged Santa still on the loose and-

 

Gosh, you know what? I think I really, really love this show. I think I just love the fact that this show ACTUALLY EXISTS. 

post #169 of 223

.. and then there's Death wandering in and out of the story as well. Yeah, this is something of a kitchen-sink show. Got to love it!

post #170 of 223
post #171 of 223

I could be wrong, but I think I just heard the Phillip Glass "Candyman" soundtrack on tonight's episode.

post #172 of 223
I wonder if the Monsignor is trying to re-summon the devil?
post #173 of 223

Next week on AMERICAN HORROR STORY:  "We Need To Talk About Lil' Bloodyface."

 

That had to be the most thankless credit appearance Clea Devall has ever had.  

 

I assumed that Grace's baby would meet up with Bloodyface in the present.  Where does the third alien baby fit into this plan?

post #174 of 223

I absolutely hated the pacing of this episode.  For a show that's been a slow burn for most of the season it's pretty much a grease fire the last couple of episodes.  It's like they're killing off every plot line they're bored with to clear the stage for the one that interests them most.  The random jumps forward in time were jarring, and there often weren't enough clues to have a good idea how much time had lapsed.

post #175 of 223

Anyone want to take bets that the mutant thing that ripped off Adam Levine's arm in the present day is The Monsignor?  

post #176 of 223
Last night I was wondering if it might end up being Sister Jude.
post #177 of 223
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Last night I was wondering if it might end up being Sister Jude.

 

I briefly thought the same thing, but then that would put the brakes on Jude's "redemption arc."  

post #178 of 223

 My favorite moment was Lana showing Tredson the audio tape then flipping him off.

post #179 of 223
I thought this was the finale while I was watching it. Pretty much straight up until the 'on the next episode' tease. Sad to say, this is kinda ending with a whimper.
post #180 of 223
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I thought this was the finale while I was watching it. Pretty much straight up until the 'on the next episode' tease. Sad to say, this is kinda ending with a whimper.

It was definitely a mistake to end each plot line separately. I was looking forward to a climax that somehow involved Bloodyface, Dr. Arden, Sister Mary Devil and the aliens. Then again, a couple episode left, so who knows what could happen? But during "The Name Game" when the status quo became "An asylum run by the devil who has a Nazi and a serial killer in her employ but has no idea about the aliens"....that's a status quo I could've lived with for a couple of episodes. 

post #181 of 223
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This show tends to remind me of a juggling act. Last season built to an amazing finale, and then a wonderful denoumant that was incredibly satisfying.

 

This season it seemed to me that the juggler attempted to keep even more objects in the air and got tired. None of the objects came crashing to the ground, but the juggler definately put down the chainsaw and and baby and is only juggling the lit dynamite and bowling ball at this point.

post #182 of 223

So wait.   Was that just a fancy transition to the present or is Bloodyface Jr. a time traveller now?    If so, I have a theory Dr. Arden is somehow still alive and he invented time travel.   One thing I'm really digging is how unpredictable this show is.  I literally have no idea where this show is headed next.

post #183 of 223
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So wait.   Was that just a fancy transition to the present or is Bloodyface Jr. a time traveller now?    If so, I have a theory Dr. Arden is somehow still alive and he invented time travel.   One thing I'm really digging is how unpredictable this show is.  I literally have no idea where this show is headed next.

 

Fancy transition, if rather clumsy.  

 

Old Lana, old Kit and really old Jude vs Bloodyface Jr next week?  I can get behind that finale.  

post #184 of 223

This was an absolutely fantastic episode, and really threw me for some loops....well-earned, I might add.

 

The change in Lana's character, or perhaps the reintroduction of it, was tough to take, but perfectly reasonable.

 

I don't know what I was expecting with two episodes to go, but I wasn't in for the stakes being raised even higher.

 

Is the finale going to be an extended two-hour affair...or am I just holding out hope?
 

post #185 of 223
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Fancy transition, if rather clumsy.  

 

Old Lana, old Kit and really old Jude vs Bloodyface Jr next week?  I can get behind that finale.  

 

I looked at the shot again and yeah it was probably just a clumsy transition but the shot was unbroken from Kit pulling out to Bloodyface Jr. sitting in his car.   My crazy prediction?   Bloodyface Jr. is killed off in the first 5 minutes and the big bad is the Monsignor who is now likely the Pope-and possesed by the devil because why not?

post #186 of 223

Oh, and also....aliens.

post #187 of 223
I'm expecting an ending like last season, with the Monsignor finally in Rome with the devil by his side.
post #188 of 223

People enjoyed this episode?  I can't believe how quickly this show has changed from "can't wait to see what they do next!" to "Well, only 1 episode left so I guess I might as well watch it."

 

I can't even comprehend people saying they were raising the stakes with this episode.  The last 3 episodes have been clumsy, and poorly paced, and ultimately haven't added much to the story (at the cost of much more interesting story lines).  3 episodes ago kind of gets a pass because of the Name Game being so great, but that was the beginning of a trend on this show that I just haven't cared for.  Wrapping up the good stuff so that we're left with nothing but aliens (the worst of their storylines this season) and Bloodyface Jr (meh).

 

I feel like they think they're making some deep statement about mental health care in the US through the years, but I also feel like they're wrong.

post #189 of 223

These last two episodes were really bad.  THey should have added a few more psychos like Ian McShane to strech out the season.  THe world outside of Briarcliff isn't fun and I don't care.

 

Hopefully they stun me with a great ending.  Killing everyone off would be a great start.

post #190 of 223

I cannot wait for the terrible old age make up that's sure to appear next week.

post #191 of 223
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I cannot wait for the terrible old age make up that's sure to appear next week.

 

It seems that based on the previews, the old-age make-up looks unconvincing because it doesn't go far enough.  Looks like a few age lines and some "gaunt-ification".  Not sure if I prefer artists go nuts or go too subtle for old-age make-up...

post #192 of 223

Kit just can't get a break.

 

 It seemed like the show was wrapping up its story lines to quickly, but I like that it has added new story lines to finish the season.

post #193 of 223

Will we get to see Maroon 5 guy take more of a beating?  That would be great.

post #194 of 223

How many of you think about the concept of romance in AHS Season 3 as the creator 'Ryan Murphy' claims to have said so? Wouldn't it be weird? I wouldn't mind seeing Justin Bieber or Adam Levine be shredded or sliced in the new season. biggrin.gif 

post #195 of 223

I have to concur that the best thing this show ever has going for it is momentum rather than weird shocks. They're the spice that ties it all together, but without the momentum of the midseason, it's been lacking a bit since. Still, I do like the closed loop stories, and I'm certainly down for whatever they've got on deck. I'll be impressed if the finale is strong, because I kind of don't expect it at this point.

post #196 of 223

We had the juggler analogy when so many plot lines were coming at us at the beginning of the season, but I can't help but feel we were watching the juggler with a chainsaw, a torch, a bowling ball and a couple of tennis balls going to town but that juggler professionally laid down all the dangerous props and we're left watching a guy lob a few tennis balls around and we're supposed to be as interested as we were before.  I can't decide if they did themselves a disservice by trying to keep so many plot lines running, or they did themselves a disservice by resolving some of the plot lines too early to clear the way for the last few, but they definitely did themselves a disservice.

post #197 of 223

Too true. I was looking forward to a Sister Mary Devil-Jude-Lana-Kit-Dr. Arden-Threadson-Alien confrontation, would've made for an explosive finale. 

 

Then again, Jessica Lange really is KILLING it. I showed a friend the entire season up to this point, and her journey...holy shit. 

 

I'm still mad about Dr. Arden going out, not just because it was too early, but because he went out on his own terms. Mother fucker deserved to have some past misdeed catch up to him. 

 

Then again...one could argue that an even greater punishment for true evil is to let them wallow in their own miserable existence before finally succumbing. And a Nazi burning himself to death in an oven? Okay, Ryan Murphy, I'll give you that...still...have Shellie come back as the SUPER MUTANT. 

post #198 of 223

Having a three-episode epilogue is certainly a weird choice, but I'm still enjoying it. If the finale manages to to feel resonant and earned, it'll smooth over any rough/slow spots for me.

post #199 of 223
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I could be wrong, but I think I just heard the Phillip Glass "Candyman" soundtrack on tonight's episode.

 

No, you're not wrong.  My daughter was watching this and I heard the music.  Such a beautiful score, one of my all time favorites.  I don't really watch the show so I don't know if it worked or not, but I was certainly surprised to hear it outside of Candyman. 

post #200 of 223

I've recorded all of the shows and am watching them for the first time. I just watched the 1st show. Creepy. Shows promise.

There's a slow, rhythmic piece of music they used twice this episode and I was trying to place it. I looked in the end credits to identify it, no luck.

Then it struck me...Brian DePalma's CARRIE...the build up to the pig blood dump. Am I right? I don't have a copy of Carrie to compare.

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