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post #301 of 436
I wonder if the lack of law enforcement perspective/'buddy cop' films in sci-fi has to do with the typical tropes regarding such figures in the genre.
post #302 of 436

er.... yes?

post #303 of 436
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

As a result of Dredd being classed as a generic science-fiction cop movie, I find myself attempting to think of other movies from that genre and can only think of Robocop which, as we all know, was inspired by Judge Dredd. What others are there?

 

Outland.  That's a great one.

post #304 of 436
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Outland.  That's a great one.

 

 

Great call, love that film.

 

Dark Angel!

 

"I come in peace!"

 

"...and you'll leave in pieces asshole!"

post #305 of 436
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I've probably seen this film, but if I have I have no memory of it.


however I remember that tag line perfectly :)

 

It was known as Future Cop in NZ, mate.  Watched it eleventy billion times as a young 'un.

post #306 of 436
Ert, sorry. Typically in genre, law enforcement is an obstacle to protagonists. Minority Report, for example, has a law enforcement perspective with its central character as cop, but he does end up spending considerable time avoiding his own colleagues and evading arrest. Truly pro-cop sci-fi is like religious sci-fi, it strikes us as . . . missing the point?

*From what I gather it may be part of what was 'wrong' with TDKR. Haven't seen it yet.
Edited by Turingmachine75 - 1/27/13 at 4:56pm
post #307 of 436

Has anyone read those "MARSHALL LAW" comics? I like the satire there and wouldn't mind watching an adaption in the future.

post #308 of 436
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Yeah, that supporting cast for Judge Dredd was unbelievable - Von Sydow as Fargo and Joanna Miles as MacGruder; Assante as Rico.  What coulda been. 
 


Not to mention the FUCKING AWESOME ABC Warrior robot; now that i think about it, "Mechanismo" could be a good source for a sequel.

post #309 of 436
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Outland.  That's a great one.


This reminds me, I still have yet to watch Lockout.

post #310 of 436
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Has anyone read those "MARSHALL LAW" comics? I like the satire there and wouldn't mind watching an adaption in the future.

 

It's funny how so many comic fans who know the CVs of Moore, Ennis, Millar, Morrison etc. by heart have never heard of Pat Mills.

post #311 of 436

Little behind the scenes clip: http://vimeo.com/28782001#
 

Ever wonder what Dredd looks like without the helmet?

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Man, that's as shocking as the first time I saw Bane without his mask in the behind-the-scenes footage of TDKR! 

post #313 of 436

I guess it helps be a Dreddhead.

 

A long Q&A with Garland from last summer:

 

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=36741.0
 

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I guess it helps be a Dreddhead.
 

 

Now I feel like a meanie. frown.gif

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Little behind the scenes clip: http://vimeo.com/28782001#
 

Ever wonder what Dredd looks like without the helmet?

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

fuck I wish I'd seen this in 3D.


Also, always like it when you hear a NZ actor retaining his kaiwai accent in normal interviews.

post #316 of 436

I love Karl Urban. It's almost a crime that his career isn't bigger than it already is.

 

By the way, does anyone know what the song playing in that behind-the-scenes clip is?

post #317 of 436

Urban's work in this and the wildly different, overtly funny one he gives in Star Trek are a wonderful indication of his range.

post #318 of 436
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I love Karl Urban. It's almost a crime that his career isn't bigger than it already is.

Count me amongst those that love this guy's work.  Of course, he won a lifetime supply of goodwill from me after THE TWO TOWERS, and RETURN OF THE KING.

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Thread Starter 

He had to win me back, because of Doom and Riddick and Pathfinder. And he did, around Star Trek. He's even good in Red. Urban renewal!

post #320 of 436

He's not really bad in any of those movies, they're just not very good movies.

post #321 of 436

LOTR both put him on the map and kind of hurt him, since all those movies had him playing the stoic hero like Eomer was. (Although Eomer does have subtleties to him that Urban captures very well)

 

I also heard he was the lone bright spot of Priest as the villain.

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LOTR both put him on the map and kind of hurt him, since all those movies had him playing the stoic hero like Eomer was. (Although Eomer does have subtleties to him that Urban captures very well)

 

I also heard he was the lone bright spot of Priest as the villain.


He does his damn best to save that movie, he really does.

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"Dark Angel?" Hell, it'll always be "I Come in Peace" to me.
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It'll always be Dark Angel to me.

post #326 of 436

Sci-fi cop movie that's on the box right now, another buddy movie too, and a Stallone one to boot.


Demolition Man.

 

Underrated greatness.

post #327 of 436
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Sci-fi cop movie that's on the box right now, another buddy movie too, and a Stallone one to boot.


Demolition Man.

 

Underrated greatness.

 

There's some real 80s and 90s classics being discussed in this thread now! If we're going by Turing's criteria it doesn't really qualify though as Stallone basically sticks it to the man for that whole movie.

 

One film I thought subtly influenced Dredd isn't from the sci fi cop genre at all. It's a personal favourite though - Hardware. The British really know how to chuck loads of shit at the walls of a film set.

post #328 of 436
Great flick. Carl Mccoy (of Fields of the Nephilim!) brings in "scrap" for art. Badness ensues.

Yup, can completely see the similarity, I think it actually ran through my mind while watching Dredd.


Not seen that film for years. Good call biggrin.gif
post #329 of 436

A Buddy Cop Sci Fi movie?

 

Don't forget Rutger Hauer's Split Second.

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Great flick. Carl Mccoy (of Fields of the Nephilim!) brings in "scrap" for art. Badness ensues.

Yup, can completely see the similarity, I think it actually ran through my mind while watching Dredd.


Not seen that film for years. Good call biggrin.gif

 

Yeah man! 2000AD always maintained a connection to punk rock sensibilities and Hardware tapped straight into that, even finding room for awesome Lemmy and Iggy Pop cameos. Great soundtrack as well, my favourites being PIL's Order of Death and Ministry's Stigmata.

post #331 of 436

HARDWARE tapped rather too far into 2000 AD, as it was later the subject of a successful lawsuit from artist Kevin O'Neill for ripping off concepts from his & Steve McManus' 2000 AD short story, SHOK!.

post #332 of 436
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A Buddy Cop Sci Fi movie?

 

Don't forget Rutger Hauer's Split Second.

 

Hell ya! This needs a remastered region 1 dvd or blu.

 

Love Hardware, I have the blu, it doesn't really hold up now as a good film but I still like it, and I can't believe I got to see it in theaters.

post #333 of 436

Hardware

'The film's script was inspired by a short 2000 AD comic strip called SHOK! Walter's Robo-Tale in the Judge Dredd Annual 1981. In the comic, a robot head part is recovered from the bloody aftermath of the Cursed Earth story. Controversially, the original theatrical release failed to mention the comic book despite heavily referencing its storyline. Following legal action a notice was added to later versions and the strip's creators, Steve MacManus and Kevin O'Neill, now get writer's credits.'

post #334 of 436
Virtuosity

Would that count as a scifi cop movie?
post #335 of 436
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Hardware

'The film's script was inspired by a short 2000 AD comic strip called SHOK! Walter's Robo-Tale in the Judge Dredd Annual 1981. In the comic, a robot head part is recovered from the bloody aftermath of the Cursed Earth story. Controversially, the original theatrical release failed to mention the comic book despite heavily referencing its storyline. Following legal action a notice was added to later versions and the strip's creators, Steve MacManus and Kevin O'Neill, now get writer's credits.'

 

 

This is true, in fact the DVD Special Edition came with a booklet written by well-known UK nerd Kim Newman, where he explains the argument (the film's creator maintained for some time it came to him in a dream). SHOK! is also included for comparison.

post #336 of 436

Okay, I'll admit it. I made my earlier comment in this thread because I didn't think there were that many science-fiction cop movies but you've all proved me wrong.

 

I hate all of you so much.

post #337 of 436

Does Bernard Cribbens character in Dalek's Invasion Earth 2150 AD count?

post #338 of 436

 

Not great Korean cinema, but solid...Just put a paper bag over the obvious inspiration and the horrible dialogue in the trailer.
 

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Not great Korean cinema, but solid...Just put a paper bag over the obvious inspiration and the horrible dialogue in the trailer.
 

 

 

Brilliant.

 

"The man who loves cyborg"

 

Admittedly it is very underated as a JCVD vehicle.

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and the hits just keep coming :)

post #342 of 436

Tho interesting, this thread appears to have lost it's way...

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http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/dvd-genres/action-adventure/dredd-3d-blu-ray/678319

 

That's simple and sexy.  I can wait til March for that.

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http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/dvd/dvd-genres/action-adventure/dredd-3d-blu-ray/678319

 

That's simple and sexy.  I can wait til March for that.

Nice cover, but $47, jeeesh!

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Nice cover, but $47, jeeesh!

 

I know!  It's got an extra feature from the regular disc, and based on the site's prices, the regular one is still $39 anyway.  Normally I would NEVER pay this for a disc . . . but . . . well . . . Dredd.

post #346 of 436

LOVED this. It's a damn shame that it flopped like it did 

 

As good as the soundtrack is, it could have been better. How do I know? The producers originally commissioned Geoff Barrow of Portishead to score the film. He worked with Ben Salisbury to create a tense, paranoid fever dream akin to John Carpenter's '80s work on Escape from New York and Ennio Morricone's The Thing. The producers passed on it because they were looking for something more aggressive, but I implore you guys to check it out. Barrow and Salisbury self-released their intended score as Drokk: Music Inspired by Mega-City One.

 

It's fantastic.
 

post #347 of 436
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LOVED this. It's a damn shame that it flopped like it did 

 

As good as the soundtrack is, it could have been better. How do I know? The producers originally commissioned Geoff Barrow of Portishead to score the film. He worked with Ben Salisbury to create a tense, paranoid fever dream akin to John Carpenter's '80s work on Escape from New York and Ennio Morricone's The Thing. The producers passed on it because they were looking for something more aggressive, but I implore you guys to check it out. Barrow and Salisbury self-released their intended score as Drokk: Music Inspired by Mega-City One.

 

It's fantastic.
 

 

Wow that sounds awesome! Gonna probably buy that.

 

Who here has double dipped yet? I'm probably gonna buy the dvd as a gift for a friend this weekend.

post #348 of 436
About to watch LOOPER, which I missed last year.

I also have a few old school flicks on my dvr that need watching: THE LAST DETAIL, THE YAKUSA - both first time - and a rewatch of CHINATOWN - first time in 20 years.
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About to watch LOOPER, which I missed last year.

I also have a few old school flicks on my dvr that need watching: THE LAST DETAIL, THE YAKUSA - both first time - and a rewatch of CHINATOWN - first time in 20 years.

 

We should rename this thread to "DREDD - AND ALL THINGS AWESOME - THREAD" and be done with it. I saw Looper again at the weekend and thought it was much improved on second viewing, even though I loved it in the cinema. There's loads of subtle little touches I didn't pick up on on first viewing.

 

 

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Wow that sounds awesome! Gonna probably buy that.

 

Who here has double dipped yet? I'm probably gonna buy the dvd as a gift for a friend this weekend.

 

 

 

A mate of mine turned 40 this weekend gone, and he's a lifelong 2000AD fan, so he got a copy of Dredd and a bottle of Heradura tequila in commiseration.

post #350 of 436
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Originally Posted by Headless Fett View Post

LOVED this. It's a damn shame that it flopped like it did 

 

As good as the soundtrack is, it could have been better. How do I know? The producers originally commissioned Geoff Barrow of Portishead to score the film. He worked with Ben Salisbury to create a tense, paranoid fever dream akin to John Carpenter's '80s work on Escape from New York and Ennio Morricone's The Thing. The producers passed on it because they were looking for something more aggressive, but I implore you guys to check it out. Barrow and Salisbury self-released their intended score as Drokk: Music Inspired by Mega-City One.

 

It's fantastic.
 


Ah crap, I love soundtracks like this and now when I watch the movie again I'll wish it was in there.

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