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post #1 of 268
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Apologies if one exists...I couldn't find one.

 

That said, trailer time:

 

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/good-day-to-die-hard/trailers/a-good-day-to-die-hard-teaser-trailer-30781677.html

post #2 of 268

That poor piano!

post #3 of 268

I was one of those weirdos who didn't mind the last one and found it to be a very serviceable action movie with a very weak villain.  The problem with it was that it didn't really feel much like a Die Hard movie - its DNA was much more "24," with John McClane being reinvented as Jack Bauer.  The potential reason?  Die Hard 4 was actually originally conceived as a "24" crossover (a bonkers idea but I'll be damned if I wouldn't want to have seen how that would have worked) before they decided to just go ahead and make it a straight-up Die Hard installment.  Meanwhile, the "24" feature was delayed multiple times, the latest claims being that it starts shooting next year in time for a release about ten years after it would have still been relevant.

 

Anyway, I am hardly surprised to see every indication that the the Die Hard series is continuing in the new vein.  Oh well, indestructible-force-of-nature Bruce Willis still has its pleasures, but I don't know that this is a trip to the theater for me.

post #4 of 268

Not much to judge on but if that last line is any indication it looks like Willis is back to the fun side of John McClane after being more sombre in the last film. 

post #5 of 268

All I'm expecting out of this is Live Free or Die Hard with a stronger villain and this did nothing to make me waiver in that. Hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

 

Things that make me nervous:

 

  • T-Mobile Girl, hopefully John doesn't get into an extended martial arts fight with her though. Avoid that movie, and we're cool.
  • The blue filter look has never sat well with me. Its like the budget way to make something look European. Not really necessary if you're shooting in Europe. Maybe I should invest in a slightly orange tinted pair of glasses.

 

McClane with a shotgun in an elevator should be fun though. And at the end of the day, I'm just glad he's not partnered up with Bonnie Bedelia driving him around while he and Jr fight off deadly swordfighters.

post #6 of 268
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I was one of those weirdos who didn't mind the last one and found it to be a very serviceable action movie with a very weak villain.  The problem with it was that it didn't really feel much like a Die Hard movie - its DNA was much more "24," with John McClane being reinvented as Jack Bauer.  The potential reason?  Die Hard 4 was actually originally conceived as a "24" crossover (a bonkers idea but I'll be damned if I wouldn't want to have seen how that would have worked) before they decided to just go ahead and make it a straight-up Die Hard installment.  Meanwhile, the "24" feature was delayed multiple times, the latest claims being that it starts shooting next year in time for a release about ten years after it would have still been relevant.

 

Anyway, I am hardly surprised to see every indication that the the Die Hard series is continuing in the new vein.  Oh well, indestructible-force-of-nature Bruce Willis still has its pleasures, but I don't know that this is a trip to the theater for me.

We agree on the same point, yet walked away with different impressions of the movie.

 

This is exactly my biggest problem with the 4th Die Hard.  It's not the lack of action - it's the lack of character consistency.  You're bound to get a weak villain in an action franchise at some point, but your lead has to be consistent.  McClane turned into a castrated, superhero rather than a good cop/average dude forced into shitty circumstances.  Understanding the character will go a long way in getting your audience to embrace your movie.  Of course, I would also like a strong villain with a feasible plan, no sidekicks and a good story, but if that is no longer to be - at least make the lead somewhat plausible.

post #7 of 268

I was skeptical about this from the beginning. But i've to admit that i am slowly becoming more hopeful for this.

 

Jai Courtney's performance in JACK REACHER helped as well.

post #8 of 268

I am honestly not looking forward to this at all. As far as I'm concerned this is just another example of a studio trying to suck every penny they can out of an aging series. There's no reason for this movie to exist.

post #9 of 268

Imdb says this film was shot on Fuji film rather than Kodak film, like the first four. To hell with that!

post #10 of 268
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Not much to judge on but if that last line is any indication it looks like Willis is back to the fun side of John McClane after being more sombre in the last film. 

 

That's the main reason I have a bit of hope for this one - he definitely has a "spikier" vibe to McClane's personality than he displayed in the fourth film.

post #11 of 268

I've been getting increasingly excited for this. Willis seems to be playing something at least close to McClane in this, and from the trailers, the action looks like it could be good. Still not a fan of the director, or father/son team-up thing, or the blue filter (good lord, even Wiseman showed a little restraint with the last one), but okay, I'll literally break out the rose colored glasses to watch this.

 

This is not the way to promote your movie's car chase:

 

 

Am I just being way too picky (I do love the Die Hard franchise), or was this edited by 7 year old with ADHD? I mean, I understand what's happening, in a well these scenes have vehicles, so they're probably connected kind of way, but I'm pretty sure McClane teleports 2 to 3 times in this clip. 

 

Just please assure me this is not one complete scene. This is like 3 parts of a scene edited together in an awkward attempt to make a short film for the purposes of promoting a longer well edited scene, right?

post #12 of 268

Yeah, that is an awful clip and I'm hoping it doesn't represent the actual sequence accurately.

post #13 of 268

Seeing this Thursday. Hopeful, but everything I've heard so far is meh.

post #14 of 268

Heard from who???

I WANT NAMES!

 

Meh would not surprise me.

post #15 of 268

Can't disclose (obviously,) but I trust my source pretty well.

post #16 of 268
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Can't disclose (obviously,) but I trust my source pretty well.


"Tell them it was - how do you Americans say it? - muah."

post #17 of 268
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Seeing this Thursday. Hopeful, but everything I've heard so far is meh.

Sooooooo......
post #18 of 268

I liked it. Nice coda shot at the end.

post #19 of 268
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I liked it. Nice coda shot at the end.

Must say more.

post #20 of 268

I like the ads, and an R-rated McClane is right up my alley. Hope it doesn't suck.

post #21 of 268

Sent you a PM.

 

I like to say that the version i saw was a PG-13. And they did a piss poor job of cutting out all the profanities (Fuck, Shit, Yippie Kay Hey). The audio just stopped for no reason or there was very abrupt jump cut. Terrible theatre experience for me.

 

The rest of the action stuff was fine. Definitely better shot athan in TE2. There's also a great Helicopter kill at the end that caught me by surprise. 

post #22 of 268
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Sent you a PM.

 

I like to say that the version i saw was a PG-13. And they did a piss poor job of cutting out all the profanities (Fuck, Shit, Yippie Kay Hey). The audio just stopped for no reason or there was very abrupt jump cut. Terrible theatre experience for me.

 

The rest of the action stuff was fine. Definitely better shot athan in TE2. There's also a great Helicopter kill at the end that caught me by surprise. 

Why the hell would they show you that? lol

 

How's McClane though? 

post #23 of 268

About the same. He has 2 scenes with Mary Elizabeth Winstead. I get the impression (could be wrong) that he's still divorced from Holly.

post #24 of 268

Wikipedia already has the entire plot synopsis up.

post #25 of 268
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Wikipedia already has the entire plot synopsis up.

 

Does the film end with John McClane flying around the Earth so fast he reverses time?

post #26 of 268
That's funny. Earlier today I was thinking about the only way John McClane isn't the most recognizable human being on the face of the planet in these films is if he occupies the same universe as The Avengers. It's the special ingredient of the first film that you immediately toss out when you do a sequel. The best you get without it is Die Hard 3 and then there's the rest.
post #27 of 268

This is released in two days and there are no reviews up, isn't this typically a bad sign? Not that I'm expecting anything near the quality of the first film but I was hoping for a decent action romp with McClane back to doing what he does best. But the lack of any reaction has me nervous.

post #28 of 268
Most screenings of it are tomorrow night.
post #29 of 268
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This is released in two days and there are no reviews up, isn't this typically a bad sign? Not that I'm expecting anything near the quality of the first film but I was hoping for a decent action romp with McClane back to doing what he does best. But the lack of any reaction has me nervous.

So far only Twitchfilm has a review up, and it mostly comprises of bitching about how Die Hard is no longer what it once was.

post #30 of 268

 I was hoping Holly Gennaro and Carl Winslow or even Sam Jackson would be back in the franchise...

post #31 of 268

Considering both his kids are in this movie, they should've cameo-d Holly. 

post #32 of 268

Tagline: "Like Father...Like Son...Like HELL!"

 

Get the f*ck outta here

post #33 of 268
Well, that's just the tagline. But the 2 reviews I found were both extremly negative.

B-action stalwart Felix loved it, but he also loved the CONAN remake.
post #34 of 268

Most, if not all, critic screenings are tonight. We've been embargoed on it for the last two weeks, and Fox is sticking firm.

post #35 of 268

Live Free or Die Hard managed to score a 81% on rotten tomatoes, was that film embargoed until the day of release as well?

post #36 of 268

Saw it this morning. 

 

Having a newfound appreciation for LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD...

post #37 of 268

Was it as heavily censored as the version i saw? (All profanities cut out)

post #38 of 268
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Saw it this morning. 

 

Having a newfound appreciation for LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD...

I was afraid of this. Willis really needs to let a great filmmaker take over this series, as opposed to someone that he can push around.

post #39 of 268

I was slightly annoyed the heavily-advertised shot of the hot Russian biker babe stripping off her leathers was absent from the final product.

 

I'll say more when the embargo drops.

post #40 of 268

They only gave you a half shot, didn't they? And how they did cover up all the censored dialogue? By looping over something irrelevent over it.

 

Bastards.

post #41 of 268

Yeah, shoulders up. Didn't notice much egregious dialogue censoring. LFODH still owns that particular crown.

post #42 of 268

Maybe the version you saw was differently censored from mine. The film itself is okay in my opinion.

post #43 of 268

I AM UNDER NO EMBARGO!

 

Pretty boring.  Not good.  But then I wasn't expecting it to be good anyway.  So I can't get too worked up about it.

 

I liked Jai Courtney.  He's promising.

 

It's bad.  So much of it felt random and pointless.

 

But I did have a great time with the movie's incompetent attempt to refer to a classic Gruber moment.

post #44 of 268
It's weird how a few action shots expertly edited to Beethoven got peoples' hopes up. Including mine.
post #45 of 268

It's great music!  You could lay that over anything and it'll have the illusion of greatness.

post #46 of 268

So was I right to to assume I should skip this flick?

post #47 of 268
Simon Cowell voice: "This movie was boring. Ya boring me, movie."

(movie's really boring)
post #48 of 268

I enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard enough.

 

I was willing to like this installment if they at least matched that.

 

I'm hearing they didn't?!  frown.gif

post #49 of 268
No. No they did not.

Those who accused LIVE FREE of being just a mediocre generic action movie are going to have their minds blown by this one.
post #50 of 268
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It's great music!  You could lay that over anything and it'll have the illusion of greatness.

True. But enough to forget John Moore?? Bruno is a smart guy, I can't believe he watched Moore's movies and thought "yeah, THIS is the guy to direct the next DIE HARD".

I guess Rothman had the final say.
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