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Its kind of dumb, but effectively according the extended exercise in bullshit that is the EU, Boba Fett has escaped the Sarlacc twice.

I enjoyed much of the early EU, back when Star Wars was a mythic relic of the 70s/80s or newly Special Editioned - Shadows of the Empire was a worthy project I think, and a really fun book.
post #702 of 8886
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

You guys have drained every ounce of curiosity and cautious optimism I had managed to feel for this project in the last page.  I hope you're happy.

 

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Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

 I have been, at best, cautiously optimistic; emphasis on cautious.

 

Guys, guys, trust me on this. This comes from a British tabloid story. It's so spurious I don't even know why we're even floating it as a discussion point.

Universal Rule of Thumb: Taking anything from a British tabloid seriously is like going to a boys' school playground looking for sex tips: You're getting the worst information possible, and you should probably get arrested.

post #703 of 8886
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I enjoyed much of the early EU, back when Star Wars was a mythic relic of the 70s/80s or newly Special Editioned - Shadows of the Empire was a worthy project I think, and a really fun book.

 

And a great video game.

 

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They didn't call it the clone wars for nothin'

 

That is a truly horrifying prospect. But I still say it can't work. Darth Vader was a persona, not an actual person. 

post #704 of 8886

Ugh, I hate even acknowledging the Darth Vader rumors. I can't even imagine that they don't KNOW what a terrible idea that would be, but I also can't help but think this is probably not even a rumor woth commenting on. Besides, Darth Vader sort of feels watered down now that they have him wandering around DIsneyland in Ads and dancing to Micheal Jackson.

 

Another part of me thinks why would they bother, though? They already sell a billion Darth Vader toys, it's not like if they bring him back they'll sell more. From a financial standpoint, they'd be better off coming up with a new villian. The one thing that George got right in TPM was the villian, Darth Maul...which he then proceeded to kill off. After that, the villians were old men and robots, and then Anakin who we were supposed to have been rooting for for 2 1/2 movies. The right move is a new overarching villian for the series, one that feels actually, you know, dangerous.

post #705 of 8886
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Originally Posted by TCD View Post

Darth Vader was a persona, not an actual person. 

 

That would actually make it easier to pull off the clone shit.  As long as someone is wearing the suit and has the voice, it could be anybody.

post #706 of 8886

Really, I just want it to be like this. 90s graphics and horrible acting and all. The story can be about whatever.

 

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Originally Posted by skierpete View Post

Ugh, I hate even acknowledging the Darth Vader rumors. I can't even imagine that they don't KNOW what a terrible idea that would be, but I also can't help but think this is probably not even a rumor woth commenting on. Besides, Darth Vader sort of feels watered down now that they have him wandering around DIsneyland in Ads and dancing to Micheal Jackson.

Another part of me thinks why would they bother, though? They already sell a billion Darth Vader toys, it's not like if they bring him back they'll sell more. From a financial standpoint, they'd be better off coming up with a new villian. The one thing that George got right in TPM was the villian, Darth Maul...which he then proceeded to kill off. After that, the villians were old men and robots, and then Anakin who we were supposed to have been rooting for for 2 1/2 movies. The right move is a new overarching villian for the series, one that feels actually, you know, dangerous.

And the fucker needs an appropriately menacing name. My vote goes to Anger McPeckerslap.





This is probably why I'm not a screenwriter.
post #708 of 8886
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Really, I just want it to be like this. 90s graphics and horrible acting and all. The story can be about whatever.

 

 

That was a proper coup getting Brent Spinner to play the Twi'lek!

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And the fucker needs an appropriately menacing name. My vote goes to Anger McPeckerslap.
This is probably why I'm not a screenwriter.

 

That's DARTH Anger McPeckerslap to you, pal!
post #710 of 8886

Darth can fucking sing

 

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post #712 of 8886
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Originally Posted by Andrew Merriweather View Post

Remember when Eddie Murphy was cast as the Riddler?
 


Yeah, but:

 

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Insiders also revealed to The Sun the flick will end on a cliffhanger over whether Batman survives a blast at Wayne Towers...

 

...close eh?

Seriously, who the fuck in Hollywoodland would spill the beans to a second-rate UK tabloid? Oh yeah, a mole.

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Originally Posted by Stale Elvis View Post


Yeah, but:

 

 

...close eh?

Seriously, who the fuck in Hollywoodland would spill the beans to a second-rate UK tabloid? Oh yeah, a mole.

 

 

"Dear Second-Rate UK Tabloid..."

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Really, I just want it to be like this. 90s graphics and horrible acting and all. The story can be about whatever.

 


Jarek was a great villain though. I have the Dark Force Rising radioplay, it's ace. Plus the two books were great too.

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None of the Star Wars book can be called great, and this is coming from a guy that likes Timothy Zahn's writing.

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None of the Star Wars book can be called great, and this is coming from a guy that likes Timothy Zahn's writing.

 

I liked the one that came after the Thrawn series that had the main heroes trying to destroy the superweapon. You know the one I mean? All of them.

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Who's a worse writer, Kevin J Anderson, or OrciKurtzman?  Lindeloff?  Brandon Braga? Tim Kring?  Paul Haggis?

 

So many people I don't want anywhere near the new Star Wars movies.

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Originally Posted by Stale Elvis View Post

 

I liked the one that came after the Thrawn series that had the main heroes trying to destroy the superweapon. You know the one I mean? All of them.

I'd have to (respectfully) disagree. AC Crispin's Young Han Solo trilogy was an utter joy, Shadows of the Empire was an exciting and well written project, and the Thrawn books were awesome.

 

Many of the short stories in the "Tales of/from" collections were very well written.

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Who's a worse writer, Kevin J Anderson, or OrciKurtzman?  Lindeloff?  Brandon Braga? Tim Kring?  Paul Haggis?

 

So many people I don't want anywhere near the new Star Wars movies.

Kevin J. Anderson was not a great writer (I have an autographed copy of one of his books!) but he had some solid ideas from time to time.

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I'd have to (respectfully) disagree. AC Crispin's Young Han Solo trilogy was an utter joy, Shadows of the Empire was an exciting and well written project, and the Thrawn books were awesome.

 

Many of the short stories in the "Tales of/from" collections were very well written.

Kevin J. Anderson was not a great writer (I have an autographed copy of one of his books!) but he had some solid ideas from time to time.


I have to be honest, in the dark-ages of Star Wars '90-'97ish I read pretty much everything they printed and enjoyed most of them, although I remember reading The Crystal Star and thinking I'd hit the very rock-bottom of modern literature. I read Darksaber a few times though - I liked the way the handled the death of General Madine. Shadows of the Empire was a bit meh after all the fanfare they gave it.

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I remember enjoying Shadows of the Empire and burned through the Rogue Squadron series at one point as well. This was years ago mind, so I have no idea what I'd think of them these days.

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I enjoyed the Jedi Academy books.

I remember I quite fancied Admiral Daala (sp?) based on her picture on the cover and her general character.
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What do you all think about Michael Giacchino for scoring duties?  Some of his scores I love, some, I feel, are just workman-like. If he brings the leitmotif, I'll be happy. But if not him, who?

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That is a good idea. This is complete blasphemy, but a change up from John Williams could be very refreshing.

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Howard Shore I feel would do a good job with the series.  As for re-reading the books. I'm about done with Heir to the Empire.  It's been damn near 15years since I've read it and it's good.

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As a Williams fanboy, I bring up Giacchino partly out of pragmatism (it'd be great if JW is an immortal, but not probable), and also cuz of his Disney connections. Plus, Giacchino is a movie geek and music geek and I feel he'd bring the most heart to the job.  That being said, I did like Joel McNeely's Shadow of the Empire score, but I'm not up-to-date on his output from the last decade. 

 

I too think Howard Shore would bring a lot. He's definitely good with the leitmotif. 

post #726 of 8886

As much as I love Williams and his scores for the early Lucas/Spielberg movies, his prequel music left me completely empty.

 

This may have been down to factors such as I disliked the films themselves plus I think the a lot of the films were re-edited after he'd scored them so the music was spliced around these new edits. Look at Empire's Asteroid Chase music and see how the music sweeps and rolls with the Falcon as it dives and rolls towards the larger asteroid or the crescendo as the two TIE Fighters collide - Williams knows how to score to action or less kinetic scenes, his complimenting what is on screen at the time - this was lost as the film was re-edited and the music spliced.

 

I also really hope that whoever scores these stays well clear of stand alone pieces such as Duel of the Fates, Across the Stars and Battle of the Heroes - all great pieces of music but all stand alone pieces that didn't flow with the rest of the score.

 

Plus, I also hope whoever scores these to revert to Williams' original inspiration for the Star Wars score - The Planets by Holst. I only listened to The Planets about 2 years ago now, but couldn't believe just how much Williams had lifted almost note for note from them. Seriously, if you're a fan of the Star Wars score, download the London Symphony Orchestra's version - It's like a soundtrack to a Star Wars world-building album.

 

Listen to the following:

 

Mars - Imperial Attack lifts almost note for note, plus there are so many different themes that are used throughout of Star Wars that are present here - even the Stormtroopers march down the back streets of Mos Eisley to the Falcon.

 

And then there's this:

Venus - This track could sit right inside a Star Wars film and be called something like Morning on Tatooine and no one would bat an eyelid.

 

 

Seriously, whoever scores the new films needs to return to The Planets.

 

And if you haven't already, you need to download this album, you'll thank me for it.

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You bring up a good point. I've felt the same way about William's score for the prequels but I mostly blame Lucas for the the tonal shift Williams is supposed to make. It's just not the same kind of Star Wars. They weren't as concerned with adventure and journey-man heroics. In fact, they weren't concerned with it at all. But if the new films can do anything, they should return to that sound of whimsey.

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They weren't as concerned with adventure and journey-man heroics. In fact, they weren't concerned with it at all. But if the new films can do anything, they should return to that sound of whimsey.

 

Agreed - they weren't concerned about THIS IS AN ACTION SCENE! they simply complimented what was going on and added atmosphere.

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I think it's time to hire Robert Downey Jnr as Han Solo's son. I'm joking, of course.

 

Possibly.

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I think it's time to hire Robert Downey Jnr as Han Solo's son. I'm joking, of course.

 

Possibly.

 

Hey, why stop there?

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Chris Hemsworth would be AMAZING in a STAR WARS movie.
 

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Hey, why stop there?

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Chris Hemsworth would be AMAZING in a STAR WARS movie.
 

 

The Marvelverse has gobbled up a lot of people who flourish if unleashed in the Star Wars universe (Whedon, Hemsworth, Evans, Hiddleston).  But people don't generally pick up a second major franchise when they're anchoring another.

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Schwartz, Unless you are...Harrison Ford, and Indiana Jones and Star Wars were sharing the big screen at the same time!

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Chris Hemsworth would be AMAZING in a STAR WARS movie.
 

That's if you assume Chris Hemsworth would be amazing in everything.

 

And he's not amazing. At all.

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Has Fassbender been suggested by anyone on these boards for any role in these movies yet?

 

If not, I feel I may be on an alternative internet.

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I'd like to nominate Scott Adkins to continue the role of martial arts-using Sith bad guys which Ray Park started in TPM.

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Hey, why stop there?

 

 

 

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A. I actually kind of like Jar-Jar. I don't understand what the big deal is about Jar-Jar.

 

I'm calling it. Robert Pattinson as Jar Jar Jr. Half human, half Gungan. Make it happen George.

post #740 of 8886

Have to disagree about John Williams' prequel scores not matching up especially his score to Revenge of the Sith which is one of the best scores he's ever done. It's deeper in some ways but this piece alone is up there with anything from the original trilogy. 

 

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I'm willing to acknowledge the existence of the Prequels only for the fact that we got three fantastic scores out of them.

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I'd love to hear the unaltered scores for the prequels, cuz yeah, Lucas did cut and re-cut so much.

 

Stale Elvis, right on about the Holst/Planets connection. I knew the second I read his name, "Mars" was gonna be mentioned. There's definitely inspiration there. 

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But people don't generally pick up a second major franchise when they're anchoring another.

 

Hugo Weaving?  And, oddly enough, for a while there in the 90's, it seemed you couldn't have a $100M+ grossing picture without Jeff Goldblum being featured.

post #744 of 8886
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As a Williams fanboy, I bring up Giacchino partly out of pragmatism (it'd be great if JW is an immortal, but not probable), and also cuz of his Disney connections. Plus, Giacchino is a movie geek and music geek and I feel he'd bring the most heart to the job.  That being said, I did like Joel McNeely's Shadow of the Empire score, but I'm not up-to-date on his output from the last decade. 

 

I too think Howard Shore would bring a lot. He's definitely good with the leitmotif. 

 

I agree. I would love to see Giacchino work the scores as well. Shore and I'm are the only two that have come to mind.

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Hugo Weaving?

 

Robert Downey, Jr.

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Weaving was about the 16th lead in LOTR, so it's not really "anchoring".  Downey went for it, with results that were good financially, mixed creatively.  Ford started Indy before Star Wars was over, but it was going to end after the next one at that point.  

 

Not saying it's impossible, just don't get your hopes up for significant Marvel/Star Wars talent crossover (though I'd be pretty damn fine with Tom Hiddleston as Han Solo, Jr. myself).  Those are two very significant, open-ended commitments to be running concurrently.

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Hugo Weaving?  And, oddly enough, for a while there in the 90's, it seemed you couldn't have a $100M+ grossing picture without Jeff Goldblum being featured.

 

Which brings up a good point. Jeff Goldblum should have a role in the new Star Wars.

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And er, oh yeah...

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And er, oh yeah...

Whats that? Oh, it's the sound of creativity-in-film's death rattle. 2-3 per year? Good god. 

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That's ridiculous.  One every 2 years is pushing it. 

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