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post #151 of 252
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The VAST, VAST majority of people who see this won't know GlaDOS from a hole in the ground.

 

True, but not at all relevant to how I am affected by her inclusion. And being that I am me, that's mainly what I care about.

 

(The Portal games are my all-time favorite videogames. Do with that what you will.)

post #152 of 252
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I feel like the people favoring BLADE 1 in this discussion haven't seen BLADE 1 in a while. Yes, the opening scene is great, but it gets progressively worse with every passing scene. Say what you will about BLADE 2, dodgy CG, Spud, etc, but it keeps things at a fun even keel right through to the end at least. 

 

I'd agree the B2 is more "fun" than the first film; GDT is having a fucking blast directing the film and it shows. However, I think that aside from really dodgy CGI for the bloodgod, BLADE holds up extraordinarily well. I prefer it over the second film, though I love both. Until Nolan came along, BLADE was essentially the Batman film I'd been wanting all along. 

 

I think Norrington gets shitloads of miles out of a combination of great camera work, Snipes menacing presence, and a fantastic score. It's lot more of a tone poem than BLADE II. 

 

I'd rather not pick, because I genuinely think both are good-to-great. But if forced, I'd likely go with the first film.

 


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Now HELLBOY 1 however, is vastly superior to the overrated HELLBOY 2. 

 

 

Preach! I remain convinced that HB2 rides a love of the increased number of practical effects. The first film is tighter and more to my liking (though I love that Nuada is the closest thing I'll likely ever see to having Tad Williams' Norns onscreen).

post #153 of 252
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Wut?  Are you gonna start demanding that all actors completely change their voices for each movie they dooooo???

 

I take your "wut" and volley it back at you. She's an actress known for playing a digitally altered A.I. voice now playing another non-related A.I. voice that's been digitally altered to sound identical to her previous A.I. voice. And somehow you think me objecting to that equates to me thinking Clint Eastwood should adopt a different accent for every film he's in?!

post #154 of 252

But it was a joke!

 

I made fun of myself with the FALSE EQUIVALENCY thing!

post #155 of 252
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

But it was a joke!

 

I made fun of myself with the FALSE EQUIVALENCY thing!

 

Then I, sir, am CLEARLY too worked up over something silly and should apologize immediately and perhaps buy you a cup of coffee!

post #156 of 252
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post

 

I'd agree the B2 is more "fun" than the first film; GDT is having a fucking blast directing the film and it shows. However, I think that aside from really dodgy CGI for the bloodgod, BLADE holds up extraordinarily well. I prefer it over the second film, though I love both. Until Nolan came along, BLADE was essentially the Batman film I'd been wanting all along. 

 

I think Norrington gets shitloads of miles out of a combination of great camera work, Snipes menacing presence, and a fantastic score. It's lot more of a tone poem than BLADE II. 

 

I'd rather not pick, because I genuinely think both are good-to-great. But if forced, I'd likely go with the first film.

 


 

 

Preach! I remain convinced that HB2 rides a love of the increased number of practical effects. The first film is tighter and more to my liking (though I love that Nuada is the closest thing I'll likely ever see to having Tad Williams' Norns onscreen).

 

I watched them both quite recently. Hellboy is a fun film, but in my view had nowhere near the same amount of thematic resonance and imagination as the sequel. Every diversion in the film adds to its complexity and depth. It's more of a shaggy dog story than the first, which is in turn constructed like a fairly typical hero origin story, but it's one well worth listening to.

 

What I found noticeable is how related the plots and themes of Blade II and Hellboy II seem to be. Not carbon copies, but it does feel slightly as if Del Toro hadn't quite got the basic ideas out of his system with Blade II and had another crack at it with Hellboy II. 

 

I'm not a monster movie fan nor particularly a young'un at heart, but, despite its relatively poor construction, that trailer suggested an epic feel and some eldritch horror lurking behind the rocket punches. Count me in.

post #157 of 252

Wow....I don't think I knew a single piece of information about this movie until I saw the trailer. Gotta say, this trailer has got me excited.

 

I will say the Glados voice was a bit odd. Hopefully they don't overuse it. It might take me a bit to disconnect the voice with the character while watching the movie.

 

So I'm assuming that there was a top secret team of scientists and engineers who have known about this dimensional rift and have been preparing for the fight for the last 10 years by building robots?

post #158 of 252

Honestly, all this "glados" talk is making my eyes glaze over. WHAT LANGUAGE IS THIS YOU TALK.

 

Watched the trailer again. All I could think was "who's going to pay for all that collateral damage?"

 

Shit, I need a drink.

post #159 of 252

To chime in on the Blade vs. Blade 2 debate(even though I've had this thread open for a ludicrous amount of time)... Blade is a better action film, even though it's obvious they were running out of money towards the end. Blade 2 is a much better horror movie.

I love them both equally for different reasons. Trinity sucks.

post #160 of 252

People complaining about the GlaDOS voice are taking a bullet train to "I WANT THIS MOVIE TO BE TAILOR MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR MEEEEEE" town.

post #161 of 252

I'd put Blade 2 above Blade 1 on the basis of the villain, if nothing else. I don't think there's a huge difference in quality between the two films, and I like both of them, but I definitely prefer 2.

post #162 of 252

Jeez, I hope people don't barricade theatres and demand their ticket money back because of GlaDOS. I mean, can you imagine trying to go and see a movie only to be met with a bunch of protesters wielding signs that say "That woman who did an AI voice shouldn't be doing another AI voice!" and "Pacific Rim does not make us GlaDOS!"

 

What a calamity.

post #163 of 252

I prefer...Blade to Blade II!  Not just because of the opening scene but the whole film.  Stephen Dorff as Deacon Frost was a great villain.  The fights in the vamp nightclub, the...Bladecycle armed with machine guns, and the final fight between Blade and Frost...Epic!  I also prefer...Hellboy 2 to Hellboy!

post #164 of 252

I think you guys are overreacting to people overreacting about the Glados voice.

post #165 of 252
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Jeez, I hope people don't barricade theatres and demand their ticket money back because of GlaDOS. I mean, can you imagine trying to go and see a movie only to be met with a bunch of protesters wielding signs that say "That woman who did an AI voice shouldn't be doing another AI voice!" and "Pacific Rim does not make us GlaDOS!"

 

What a calamity.

 

I hope there is a great commotion and they have to rerecord the AI voice, and they use the original Bane voice instead.

post #166 of 252
Count me amoungst those that thinks the trailer seems too much like Transformers, Battleship or generic-CGI-BWARRRRMMM-movie. The second trailer should show more Kaiju so it gets away from just robots.

And since I love talking about GDT movies...
- Blade II has great Reaper effects and vampire disintegration, a healthy amount of gore and a variety of different fights, some of which are excellent. It wastes the Bloodpack and specifically Donnie Yen. And the logic of the UV light grenades in the sewer all ways annoys me (having more 'light grenades' in one sport isn't really going to be more destructive for cleaning out a sewer system. The It's a fun action horror movie that I can watch over and over.

- Hellboy (somewhat like Pacific Rim) is a minor miracle in that it got made. It earns points for being a major US film with the son of Satan in the lead (that opened at Easter) fighting Nazis and Rasputin and Lovecraftian beasts. On the downside Myers is such a drag and several of the action scenes are disappointing (I was hoping for something as good as Blade II). And as good as Perlman is, Hellboy is played much more as a goofy adolescant than in the comics. This pushes the tone closer to Men In Black or Ghostbusters. Perhaps it should be a touch more serious, ala Constantine.

- Hellboy II gets rid of Myers and has better action scenes by far. But there are bits of the plot that are either plot holes or at least undermine the story. I'm talking about Liz melting the crown at the end. It would be like Gandalf zapping the one ring into nothingness at the end of the third movie. Why didn't the do that earlier?! The other thing is Nuada blackmailing the heroes by captuaring Nuala, when he obviously can't hurt her.

I like all three movies, but they have their flaws. I'm hoping Pacific Rim is more of a complete success.
post #167 of 252

I wish those giant robots existed because I would steal one just so I could rocket punch people in the face. Chris Brown would be first.

 

ROCKET PUNCH TO THE FACE, CHRIS BROWN!!!!

post #168 of 252

Perhaps I should offer some context for my enjoyment of del Toro. When the first Hellboy came out, I had absolutely no idea who he was. I just knew that the movie looked cool, and it had Ron Perlman starring, who I was already a fan of.

 

Ergo, the first Hellboy while flawed directly contributed to my seeking out del Toro's other films. I rank Blade and Blade II about equally in terms of strengths and weaknesses, but admit to a slight preference for II. His Spanish language work is DIVINE.

 

The Golden Army bashing going on here, incidentally, is crazy talk. I thought I knew you, MichaelM and Sebastian!

 

I THOUGHT I KNEW YOU.

post #169 of 252

I watch these things while I'm at work (government job and all) so I have the sound turned down so it looked good to me. Why spoil the thing with sound from teeny tiny speakers anyway right? I'll be there most likely with my son. I'm pretty much a sold ticket if there is even a hint of Sci-fi goodness.

post #170 of 252

Watching this did not make me think of Transformers.  I thought about Prometheus, because the human's helmets look a lot like the ones from that film.  In any event, the trailer has me interested and didn't put me to sleep, which is more than I can say for ol' Supes.

post #171 of 252

It's the yellow lighting within their helmets!  I thought about Prometheus there too.

post #172 of 252
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Originally Posted by HarleyQuinn22 View Post

Watching this did not make me think of Transformers.  I thought about Prometheus, because the human's helmets look a lot like the ones from that film.  In any event, the trailer has me interested and didn't put me to sleep, which is more than I can say for ol' Supes.

 

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It's the yellow lighting within their helmets!  I thought about Prometheus there too.


Also: Stacker Pentecost from this movie looks a lot like Janek from Prometheus.

post #173 of 252
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

Also: Stacker Pentecost from this movie looks a lot like Janek from Prometheus.

 

Different guy.  Their voices sound nothing alike.

post #174 of 252
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Different guy.  Their voices sound nothing alike.


You're right. i don't know what I was thinking.

 

*Commits Seppuku*

post #175 of 252

Both are in the business of canceling apocalypses!

 

HANDJOOOOOBS!!!

post #176 of 252

Del Toro talked up how much he wanted each robot, monster, and battle to have their own personality, so I think we're just seeing a fraction of one of the fights.

 

Also I doubt there's any of the Glados character there, just the voice.

post #177 of 252

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Also: Stacker Pentecost from this movie looks a lot like Janek from Prometheus.

 

Films that feature names like that just make me want a Spiral Zone movie all the more. 

post #178 of 252

Stacker Pentecost is easily the most hilarious movie name I've heard in a while. The reigning champ remains Cole Trickle.

post #179 of 252

Reminds me of Spencer Armacost... from The Astronaut's Wife!

post #180 of 252
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Stacker Pentecost is easily the most hilarious movie name I've heard in a while. The reigning champ remains Cole Trickle.

 

Cole Trickle loses points because there was a real life race car driver named Dick Trickle, which is much funnier.

post #181 of 252

Man, I wasn't expecting discussion of GDT's other movies, though I should have.  For what it's worth, I prefer Blade to Blade 2, though they're both excellent.  I think it's pretty clear that DelToro had a vampire story he wanted to tell as evidenced by The Strain, and he used the sequel to Blade to do it. 

 

Hellboy though, isn't as good as Hellboy 2 though they're both great as well.  I love Hellboy 2's theme of humanity destroying the magic of the world.  I mean, when was the last time you heard anyone honestly talk about ghosts and fairies?  People still have the same experiences, only now it's either aliens (science co-opting magic), or an actual scientific/psychology explanation.

 

That being said, all Pacific Rim has to do is deliver some solid kaiju action and I'll be happy, so I may am not be the best judge of quality there.
 

post #182 of 252
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Actually, if it's just a cameo or a short little in-joke, that would be fine. But this AI (or whatever) is featured in the trailer! Anything more than a few winking lines and I'm back to "dumb."

Real talk: Isn't this kinda, sorta, supposed to be a bit dumb. I mean, if there's ever a movie that "should" be mindless fun, it most certainly should be the one featuring giant fucking monsters rampaging through the city.

post #183 of 252

* Double post *

post #184 of 252
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

Stacker Pentecost is easily the most hilarious movie name I've heard in a while. The reigning champ remains Cole Trickle.

 

Flipper Purify is the worst character name ever. Hell, if he wasn't played by Wesley Snipes, I'd want to punch him in the face for having such a dumb name.

post #185 of 252
Worst/best non intentional comedic name has to go to Zapp Rowdowser
post #186 of 252

The best intentionally funny movie name is Gay Perry.

post #187 of 252

Dammit, all this name talk makes me wanna change my CHUD name to Max Falcon.

post #188 of 252

And it reminds me that I've always wondered how Rider Strong didn't become a porn star.

post #189 of 252
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And it reminds me that I've always wondered how Rider Strong didn't become a porn star.

 

I thought the same thing about Dick Smothers.

 

There's no way that his co-stars don't ruthlessly mock him when he's in his trailer. If he gets a trailer, that is.

post #190 of 252

And I remember a LOT of love round these parts for HB2 when it was released.  Stop re-writing history, naughty kids.

post #191 of 252

Back on topic though I really love that Del Toro has a new film and it looks like it will be a lot of fun kind of Transformers done by a competent director with some kaiju monsters involved. But really I kind of wish his next film was something more like Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth. I love his work in those films and smaller scale stuff like that is where he really excels hopefully he will do something more in that vein soon.

post #192 of 252
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And I remember a LOT of love round these parts for HB2 when it was released.  Stop re-writing history, naughty kids.

 

But rewriting history IS history! 

 

Just circles and circles!

post #193 of 252

Best trailer I've seen this week. As far as the Blade movies are concerned, I prefer 2 for the banter between Kris Kristofferson, Ron Perlman, and Matt Schulze alone.

post #194 of 252
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But rewriting history IS history! 

 

Just circles and circles!

 

I'm going to draw a line through your circle if you don't shut it you loon.

 

I'm kidding of course. HB and HB 2 are two of my favorite films and if PACIFIC RIM is a box office success then maybe HB 3 will happen along with At The Mountains of Madness.

post #195 of 252

At the end of the day folks, we're talking about people in giant robots fighting monsters from the sea. No-one's going to be winning any film analyst awards for trotting out Transformers/Battleship comparisons. They'e kind of the laziest comparisons you could make*. The robot designs are massively different from the Bayformers style, and the trailer does make an effort to establish the people who're driving them. Also, the only point of comparison with Battleship is the sea; otherwise, it's completely different from the Battleship trailer just by dint that it doesn't look like a massive pile of shit.

 

I really wonder what exactly people were expecting from a Big Fuck-Off Robots Fighting Sea Monsters trailer. Maybe it should've looked more Terence Malick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

*The BWARRRRMing excepted. The All-BWARRRM deserves every criticism it can get.


Edited by Workyticket - 12/13/12 at 3:46pm
post #196 of 252

Well, I'm disappointed I don't have your blessing, but I'll likely keep moving forward with my plans to submit my 'hey, this movie looks quite a bit like Transformers, Battleship, and other similar movies movies about robots and aliens and robot aliens' post sequence to the In Depth Film Analyst Awards. But my thesis point remains the Emmerich Godzilla link, and I believe it's going to be enough to push me past the much vaunted 'Pacific Rim will rock your eyeballs, because rocket punch!!!' contingent.

post #197 of 252

I just don't understand what people were expecting from a trailer about giant robots punching sea monsters. You have big robots, you have fighting and explosions. You have a shitload of sea. Of course those comparisons will spring to mind based on the entire point of what the movie's about, but as was mention before the tone is closer to something like Independence Day.

The Emmerich Godzilla comparison I can sort of see, but we've only had glimpses of the monsters so far so hopefully a bit more variety will become apparent between them. Anyway, this has a good chance of being better due to the lack of Roland Emmerich.

post #198 of 252
It's not unexpected, per se, it's just that if you take DelToro off this, giant Jaeger-sized shrug.

But pertinently, it is a DelToro movie, so I'm sure it will be a very good version of the robot fights.
post #199 of 252

To support Arjen's argument, the extended shot of Gipsy Danger tumbling over the bridge and onto pier/road looks awfully similar to the end of the 'Transformers 2 - Trailer #1' ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59vVThHvmGU ).

 

I'd really like to see more of the Kaiju and Jaegers grappling and in clear view. Something to really distinguish this from both Transformers and Cloverfield. I'm saying this from a "What they need to do to sell this film to the public" perspective.

 

I assume they haven't finished the other fight scenes (as they would be all CGI), so there's room for improvement. For example, the first Avengers trailer was awful. It was only in a later trailer when when I got a glimpse of the Chitari space Dragon that I became convinced it had a big enough scope.

post #200 of 252

Yep, which in and of itself is worth looking forward to IMO. But with this being Del Toro's baby, the chances are good that there'll be some genuine meat around this thing's mecha-bones. Hopefully we'll find out more closer to release, but for now? Robot Jax and the monster rocket-punchers? I'll go with it.

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