THE PACIFIC RIM TRAILER IS HERE, AND IT’S HUGE! - Page 5

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Originally Posted by MrSaxon 

I wish those giant robots existed because I would steal one just so I could rocket punch people in the face. Chris Brown would be first.

 

ROCKET PUNCH TO THE FACE, CHRIS BROWN!!!!

It would be like smashing a fly with a cinder block.

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Originally Posted by Jackson 

It would be like smashing a fly with a cinder block.

An AWESOME cinder block.

The trailer looks like Transformers because Transformers has made billions of dollars and GDT has not.

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Originally Posted by Zhukov 

The trailer looks like Transformers because Transformers has made billions of dollars and GDT has not.

Damn Zhukov, you cut right to the chase as always.  That's the explanation.  Anyone who actually thinks it'll be Transformers hasn't seen Del Toro's other work.

http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/865107/guillermo-del-toros-pacific-rim-trailer-commentary.jhtml

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Originally Posted by wydren 

Man, I wasn't expecting discussion of GDT's other movies, though I should have.
 

I've never seen a thread torn apart by such polarizing opinions of 2 films and their respective sequels. I like em all. So there.

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Originally Posted by Kriegaffe I assume they haven't finished the other fight scenes (as they would be all CGI), so there's room for improvement. For example, the first Avengers trailer was awful. It was only in a later trailer when when I got a glimpse of the Chitari space Dragon that I became convinced it had a big enough scope.

This trailer has PLENTY of scope IMO.

I guess if you don't like kaiju, this movie may not interest, but... NEVERMIND WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

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Originally Posted by DARKMITE8 

I've never seen a thread torn apart by such polarizing opinions of 2 films and their respective sequels. I like em all. So there.

This trailer has PLENTY of scope IMO.

I guess if you don't like kaiju, this movie may not interest, but... NEVERMIND WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I wasn't questioning the scope in the trailer, just pointing out that the first trailer is often the weakest if major effects sequences aren't finished. Avengers was just an example that came to mind.

And yeah, I'm looking forward to this film. I think it will most likely be completely awesome.

My criticism is aimed at whether the trailer brings in average joe schmo. This is a $200 million film with no real movie stars attached, no brand recognition and mostly looks like just another robot fighting movie (insert BWWWWARRRRMMMM).

Maybe the marketing guys think that aping Transformers will bring in the mainstream crowd, but I suspect that tactic is having diminishing returns (see Battleship)

I think there's a very real chance this flops or underperforms.

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Originally Posted by Kriegaffe 


I only said it's a chance.
But this is the trailer thread and I'm judging it on whether it works for me, but also whether it works for the film.
With all those factors working against it (no stars, non-established property, high budget) I reckon the marketing needs to work overtime.
The trailer isn't terrible, but I was a bit underwhelmed. The posters have gone for "Here's a robot, and here's some tiny people, cause the robot is really really big, OK?". That's not going to be good enough. I reckon they are going to be have to put some Kaiju right there on the poster and be explIcit about it. Finally the name Pacific Rim isn't going to do marketing any real favours either.
(The other thing is I've watched two Hellboy films only just scrape past at the box office, so it would be a crying shame to see it happen again)

I've always been a staunch believer that Hellboy II only scraped past at the box office for the only reason because the asshats at Universal decided that releasing a movie a week before some movie w/ a guy in a bat costume and a now dead guy in clown makeup was going to work favors for them.

I've started to feel that this trailer has too much footage. IMO they should've scrapped the opening voice over and the shot of the tumbling robot in the end. Since this is a Warners+Legendary joint, they should've used the people responsible for the marketing of Nolan's films. The Batman films, Inception and Man of Steel have similar trailers:

a "what the fuck is this" teaser when you don't have a lot of footage - "Jesus Christ that is awesome" trailer when you have more finished FX available - "Oh dear, I jizzed my pants" trailer a month before the premiere when the film's pretty much done.

According to all the interviews/artices I've heard/read, what you see in the trailer isn't even close to what's in the final film.

The other side of the coin though is that people are kinda burnt out on the recent total teases that were the Cloverfield/Super 8 trailers*.

* Holding out on the Cloverfield reveal was worth it...not so much with the Super 8 holdout.

Apropo of no recent posts; I must confess I don't get the vague sniffiness around Cloverfield lingering about the internet.  I thought that was a highly entertaining flick, with more restraint and imagination than we had any right to expect ( Which might be faint praise.  But I've even seen the same people dumping on Cloverfield's conveniences go on to talk up crap like The Relic.  Geeks *tsk* sometimes I just don't know)

As it's aged, I would argue CLOVERFIELD's biggest detriments are 1) it is a classic definition of a film that MUST be experienced theatrically to get the full impact and 2) the first-person/handheld aspect wears thin at times. 

Overall, though I think it's good (not great) and worth some love. The monster design is just fine, IMNSHO.

I did not get get this trailer, Man of Steel, or Star Trek at my Hobbit.

I got trailers for Beautiful Creatures, Epic, and that Matt Damon natural gas movie.

I got screwed.

I think Cloverfield is pretty fun.  The mystery worked perfectly there though.

So it took me a couple of days, but I just realized that goofy guy in the glasses and tie they show a couple of times is Charlie Day.  I forgot he was in this, and playing a "serious" role.
 

Oddly, I was less impressed with this trailer on my first viewing but, having now watched it a good ten or so times, my excitement level has really shot up. I guess this might be due to my expectations being WAY too high. Anyway, on repeated viewings I’ve caught lots of stuff that I really like and I love the way that they’ve managed to keep the monster designs effectively hidden. I guess we’ll get a better look at those in the next trailer. Anyway, I’m really enthused over this project and can’t wait to see more! 

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Originally Posted by Zhukov 

The trailer looks like Transformers because Transformers has made billions of dollars and GDT has not.

I am absolutely not worried about this at all.  Worse case scenario if it is Transformers, with GDT at the helm, it will be the transformers film we always wanted but never got!

That's almost EXACTLY what I said to a friend of mine yesterday about the trailer. He wholeheartedly agreed.

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Originally Posted by MichaelM 

As it's aged, I would argue CLOVERFIELD's biggest detriments are 1) it is a classic definition of a film that MUST be experienced theatrically to get the full impact and 2) the first-person/handheld aspect wears thin at times. 

 

Overall, though I think it's good (not great) and worth some love. The monster design is just fine, IMNSHO.

Cloverfield's biggest problem is that none of its characters are remotely memorable or interesting in any way.  I mean, I know Lizzy Caplan was in that movie, and I have a crush on her the size of that monster, and yet I can barely distinguish her from the rest of the cast of zeroes in my memory.

I guess if their conceit was that the found-footage aesthetic would be taken to the extreme, and we would literally be dropped in with people who are as boring as some random Joe or Jane you'd meet on the street (only, like, so much better looking!) then mission fucking accomplished.

If they didn't have the final BWAAARMMP solo at the end I probably would have forgiven that too.  The edit and the Industrial-Rock-Military music work pretty good.

I do find it odd that they give away the inter-dimensional portal in the trailer.  Maybe it's given up so early in the film that it doesn't matter, but it seems more like the sort of thing the early reviews would hint at and give the thing a whole nother level.  And (without knowing a single thing about it) seems like a sort of turning point where humanity figures this out and goes on the offensive  (GdT mentions they go through it). 

Sticks out as a weird note in any case.

Does GdT cut his own trailers?

I'm ecstatic this film got made at all. The gaming community has been primed for the past couple years at least. I'm just waiting for the mainstream crowd to catch up.

Oh yeah... GODJILLA VS BIOLLANTE finally got a dvd release.

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Originally Posted by Bucho 


I think you're half right. Alba is awesome but if that voice-over is Charlie Hunnam then Shia LeBouef seems like Philip Seymour Hoffman in comparison. It pretty much wrecks the first half of the trailer for me.

Hunnam is my number one concern about this film as I've said before. I know people like him on Sons, but I stopped watching that show because I thought it's lead performance was painfully bad. I'm really disappointed to say that his voice work in this trailer had all the hall marks I've come to expect from him. I think he's one of those people who just can't pull off a convincing American accent and so he ends up sounding like someone with no charisma or appreciable acting talent. 

I'll wait to see more before I render final judgement, but right now it looks like Del Torro's film has a miscasting problem (Elba aside). 

This trailer should have been more restrained and been about setting up the world. Unfortunately if I didn't know better it looks a bit like a Transformers clone. They don't even really make clear that the people are not just VR piloting the robots, they're actually inside them.

Considering that Super Robot Anime is...Japanese, I am glad to see at least...One Asian Super Robot Pilot Rinko Kikuchi!  The rest of the casting is fine.

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Originally Posted by duke fleed 

Considering that Super Robot Anime is...Japanese, I am glad to see at least...One Asian Super Robot Pilot Rinko Kikuchi!  The rest of the casting is fine.

I think you can catch the Japanese pilots of Coyote Tango briefly before the Rocket Punch fires off.

Whatever, everyone knows it isn't race that makes you a great robot pilot. It's being a teenager with attitude.

Splatoon, Right.  I was just mentioning I like the concept of a Japanese Pilot of a Super Robot, in a film inspired by Monster Movies and Super Robot Anime.  Also, it is rare to see a...Female Super Robot Pilot.  I understand that is not the case with Neon Genesis Evangelion, but in most of the...70's era that was not the case.  I also mentioned Rinko Kikuchi, because she is definitely...Attractive!

Well I loved it, and cannot wait to see this,  the trailer seems to hit all the notes that Sucker Punch was trying to (by appealing to the child in us all).

From showing the trailer around I've found that it plays quite well with the general public. My five year old nephew flipped his shit at the rocket punch.

Yeah, when I showed it to some friends the other day at work that was the bit that went down well with everyone.

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Originally Posted by duke fleed 

Also, it is rare to see a...Female Super Robot Pilot. 

The first Mechagodzilla movie in the Millennium series has a female piloting Mechagodzilla.

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Originally Posted by Muzman  (GdT mentions they go through it).

He mentions that we see the other side, not necessarily that anybody goes through it. He also mentions that the opening narration of the trailer is the opening narration of the film.

wydren, I forgot about that.  However I do remember very few Super Robot Anime with...Female pilots.

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Originally Posted by duke fleed 

wydren, I forgot about that.  However I do remember very few Super Robot Anime with...Female pilots.

Yeah, but if we're going to discuss sexism in anime we could be here all night...

I love Del Toro's style but I was disappointed in the story of the Hellboy films. Thankfully this looks much less maudlin.  Hunnam works fine for me, and I know Alba can give a speech - I just hope it isn't too cheesy.
 

ELBA, people. Idris ELBA.

wydren, WHAT!?! That is...Not what I meant! I meant, I always...Wanted to see more...Female Super Robot Pilots. It is not about...Sexism, but just a preference to see more mixing of male and female pilots.  Ufo Robot Grendizer began with...Duke Fleed as the sole hero.  Then Koji became a pilot.  Then the daughter of the rancher where the secret Grendizer base  was hidden became a pilot and Duke's Gal Pal.  Finally Duke's Sister appeared and all 4 teamed up to save Earth from the...EEEEEEEvil Alien Overlord!  

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Originally Posted by brandhay 

Does GdT cut his own trailers?

I'm sure he submitted suggestions.  But the standard MO for most Hollywood films, especially films on this budget level, is that all marketing is handled by a third party advertising/marketing firm.  Occasionally, you get a mad auteur like Kubrick who has it in his/her contract to create or supervise the trailer themselves.

The last time I remember reading a director cutting a trailer themselves was Spielberg doing this trailer for Minority Report (as in yes, he cut it himself):

Bucho, Al...BA...Sure to suggest it is Jessica Alba, and not the daughter of Idiris Elba!

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Originally Posted by duke fleed 

Bucho, Al...BA...Sure to suggest it is Jessica Alba, and not the daughter of Idiris Elba!

Iris Elba?

Not to be confused with Jeff Alba.

Having re-watched the trailer several times, I have to cancel my previous bickering comments. This is awesome. I even like the BWAAARMMP!

Same for me. It gets better with more viewings. Of course, I liked it fron the get-go but I'm liking it even more on repeat viewings.