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Anyone glad Halloween 3 gets more appreciation nowadays?

post #1 of 23
1/27/13 at 5:17am
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Ever since the 30th anniversary special edition blu-ray i think it's getting more appreciation for it's brave attempt of turning the franchise into an anthology and for being one of the best sequels ever. I mean Michael was meant to be dead after Halloween 2 as Carpenter loathed writing Halloween 2 as he wanted to end his story including having Laurie shoot his eyes out and burn him to death with Loomis too. Carpenter and Hill had this unique idea of having the franchise to be centered around the title holiday with fresh new stories in each one with different bad guys, different tales that are standalone, different scenarios, new locations and all that.

 

It could had been like  Tales from The Crypt, Are You Afraid of the Dark, Twilight Zone or Grindhouse

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post #2 of 23
1/27/13 at 7:15am

Tom Atkins makes everything better.
 

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post #3 of 23
1/27/13 at 8:52am

The original Halloween, Rob Zombie's Halloween 2, and Halloween 3 are the most interesting movies in the series. I'm glad it's getting some love. 

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post #4 of 23
1/27/13 at 9:36am

Dan O'Herlihy's speech about the origins of the Halloween holiday, the festival of sowen etc., is incredibly creepy and really sticks in my mind--great delivery by the actor.

'And the streets ran RED with the blood of innocents and children..'

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post #5 of 23
3/4/13 at 11:27am

It took me a couple viewings to come around on this but once you can get over there being no Michael Myers and plot holes big enough to drive a semi through, it's a very effective movie in its own right. The music and atmosphere have Carpenter's stamp all over them (no other Halloween movie has been able to properly capture that feeling since, Carpenter's absence really hurt that series) and yeah, Tom Atkins and Dan O'Herlihy nail it. Particularly O'Herilhy. His plan is batshit and nonsensical but damn if he doesn't sell it.

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post #6 of 23
3/4/13 at 11:31am

I'm not sure I ever had to "get over" Myers not being in Halloween 3. I was a kid when I saw it so the extent of it was probably like, "Hey, where's stabby mask guy?" Three seconds later..."Oh, well, this is cool." Yeah, I've always liked Halloween 3 and I think I must have always innately understood (before I found out the specifics) what they were trying to do by moving away from Myers.

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post #7 of 23
3/4/13 at 11:33am

Still haven't seen it (seen all the other Halloween movies good and bad). Been meaning to. Even borrowed a friend's copy to watch last Halloween but never got around to it. Maybe this Halloween.

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post #8 of 23
3/4/13 at 11:35am
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

I'm not sure I ever had to "get over" Myers not being in Halloween 3. I was a kid when I saw it so the extent of it was probably like, "Hey, where's stabby mask guy?" Three seconds later..."Oh, well, this is cool." Yeah, I've always liked Halloween 3 and I think I must have always innately understood (before I found out the specifics) what they were trying to do by moving away from Myers.

 


You were one of a very proud few. For most people, myself initially included, Season of the Witch was largely dismissed because of Myers' absence. It's got a pretty solid following now but there are still people who dismiss the film because of that.

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post #9 of 23
3/4/13 at 11:38am

This is the only Halloween sequel I ever revist. Probably just because a weird Celtic conspiracy to melt everyone's faces is much more up my alley than a slasher film. And the Silver Shamrock song. Perfection. 

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post #10 of 23
3/4/13 at 12:13pm

I do sometimes think that Halloween 3, while not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, is a prime example of the fans being culpable for killing interesting horror by more or less telling studios that they weren't interested in investing their money in anything but redundant sequels and remakes. Had the plan worked, had the film been embraced, the genre landscape might look quite different today.

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post #11 of 23
3/4/13 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

I do sometimes think that Halloween 3, while not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, is a prime example of the fans being culpable for killing interesting horror by more or less telling studios that they weren't interested in investing their money in anything but redundant sequels and remakes. Had the plan worked, had the film been embraced, the genre landscape might look quite different today.


What could have been. Carpenter's confirmed the idea was to make a different story with each sequel but that went away after Season of the Witch initially flopped. I wonder if Carpenter or someone had another idea ready to go. I've never heard about one but it would be fascinating to read about now. 

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post #12 of 23
3/9/13 at 12:27pm

Trick 'r Treat was sort of the Halloween 4 that never was.

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post #13 of 23
3/9/13 at 7:43pm

Nigel Kneale's original script is still one of the holy grails of horror film making. Something I'd love to get a hold of.

 

Since they're remaking everything else of the 80s, maybe this would actually get a fair shot in a new landscape.

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post #14 of 23
3/9/13 at 8:32pm
This is still the only Halloween film I've seen (which is weird, given how much I love Carpenter) I saw it as a kid, and didn't even know 1 & 2 were anything different. Scared fuck out of me, still remember the jingle every Halloween and will never, ever put a pumpkin mask on. I even stopped my youngest putting one on in the shop last Halloween. You never know.

So yeah, im glad its getting some love now, as the unencumbered kid loved being scared by that flick.
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post #15 of 23
3/10/13 at 8:57am
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Since they're remaking everything else of the 80s, maybe this would actually get a fair shot in a new landscape.

 

Can't call it Halloween III, obviously; can't call it Season of the Witch either, because of the Nic Cage thing a few years back. Silver Shamrock, maybe?

 

Tom Atkins would have to have a cameo. Maybe as the drunk guy who says "Hey Cochran, fuck you."

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post #16 of 23
3/10/13 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by Martin Blank View Post

Trick 'r Treat was sort of the Halloween 4 that never was.

 

I typed this once about Halloween III AND I STAND BY IT

 

 

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There is a secret trick to correctly watching Halloween III (1982). First, watch Halloween. Next, never watch Halloween II. Then, put on Halloween III and when the title comes up use your hand to cover one of the roman numerals so it says "Halloween II: Season of the Witch." Finally, put on Trick 'r Treat and pretend that's called Halloween III: Trick 'r Treat and now you have enjoyed the successful, decades-spanning horror anthology of which director Tommy Lee Wallace dreamed. Wallace's film is not perfect (and he's the first to tell you why), but it's got Tom Atkins, a fun Carpenter/Howarth score, a great villain and best of all, the cinematography of Dean Cundey in his '80s prime. Beyond all that, it's fun to imagine a world where the Halloween franchise spawned ten standalone films that didn't rely on tangled continuity and monotonous plot rehashes. The film failed, but it was hobbled out of the gate by the mere existence of Halloween II. Then and now, movie nerds don't like having their trilogies cockblocked like that.
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post #17 of 23
3/10/13 at 6:33pm

"That man's skull was literally torn apart." Those robot dudes still freak me out.

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post #18 of 23
3/10/13 at 8:41pm

Every Halloween, a pic from this movie becomes my desktop shot for the day.  They are beautiful and creepy.

 

ps, all evil should come from Stonehenge, because why not?

 

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post #19 of 23
3/11/13 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by Martin Blank View Post

 

Can't call it Halloween III, obviously; can't call it Season of the Witch either, because of the Nic Cage thing a few years back. Silver Shamrock, maybe?

 

Tom Atkins would have to have a cameo. Maybe as the drunk guy who says "Hey Cochran, fuck you."

 

I think something like "The Last Halloween" or "Samhain" would work fine as titles.

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post #20 of 23
3/12/13 at 12:47am

Okay, that's freaky as fuck.  I literally have a spec script I'm writing that was originally called "Samhain" until I was noted that nobody would know how to pronounce it, so I changed the title to The Last Halloween.

 

STOP STALKING ME EVILTWIN!

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post #21 of 23
3/12/13 at 1:15pm

The biggest problem with a remake is that no one could ever achieve the same level of machismo charm as Tom Atkins.

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post #22 of 23
3/12/13 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post

Okay, that's freaky as fuck.  I literally have a spec script I'm writing that was originally called "Samhain" until I was noted that nobody would know how to pronounce it, so I changed the title to The Last Halloween.

 

STOP STALKING ME EVILTWIN!

 

It's not my fault you've chosen to remake Halloween III.

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post #23 of 23
3/12/13 at 6:59pm
Of course Samhain would be mispronounced in such a film, the way Loomis mispronounces it in Halloween II. (Guys, it's not pronounced Sam Hane.)
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