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post #1 of 72
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QOTSA is back, and on Matador Records (???!!!)*

 

Kind of a "Hanging Tree" meets flamenco vibe to it but much, much better.  It took me a long time to warm up to Era Vulgaris but if this song is any indication, ...Like Clockwork and me are going to become fast friends.

 

 

*I was going to embed the song but sharing is disabled.

post #2 of 72

Pretty cool song, a grower. Feel like it's a slightly odd choice for a single though. It feels like a million years since their last album but this seems to pick things up where they left off.

 

Interesting that they're now on an indie label. I wonder if that's by choice? I mean I know their later stuff wasn't doing Songs For The Deaf numbers, but if a major is willing to re-sign the Flaming Lips to put out a totally non-commercial album I'd be surprised if no one wanted to touch a QOTSA record with Grohl and co on it.

post #3 of 72

It was their choice. Josh was very unhappy with Interscope's interference after "Era Vulgaris" came out. Look up "Salt Mine Gig" for more info.

post #4 of 72
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Look up "Salt Mine Gig" for more info.

For those who don't know the story, it seems like Interscope wouldn't release the DVD of that show (the Salt Mine Gig) as it would have counted as their last album on their record contract.  Apparently, the Them Crooked Vultures album was the last album of the deal.  

 

But Jesus, Matador seems like such a weird label for the band,

post #5 of 72
MotherFUCK, what a beauty!

The coolest man in rock remains a ginger.


Here they are playing it in Brazil ...
post #6 of 72
Josh chatting with Jay Mohr for an hour and a bit on Mohr Stories episode 153. Listen here on your Computertron2000 or get that puppy on iTunes.
post #7 of 72

Bit short notice... New QOTSA premiering at 12:43 on Adult Swim tonight, and then re-showing at 3:41. Looks pretty bad ass from the little bits I've seen.

post #8 of 72

New song and video are the goods:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9OfBcjyxKY

post #9 of 72

This, really and truly, might be my favorite song by them ever. And knowing that this is only half of it? Staahp it.

post #10 of 72
It's very pretty and clever, kind of Chris Cornelly, but for me Josh and Co are at their best in their more propulsive moments and this isn't one of them. Even when it gets a little blast-beaty it's still kind of ambling along and the way the chorus never resolves leaves it feeling a little weightless melodically.

Of course if I was up to my gills on drugs like you guys I'd probably hear it differently.
post #11 of 72
Sort of agree in that I was hoping for at least a partial return to rollicking stoner metal, which based on these two songs isn't looking very likely. But I also enjoy a good dark Homme ballad and this is a pretty solid one.

In that interview Homme talks about how his original idea was to work under a different band name every few years - might've been a good idea to do a switch up after Songs For The Deaf because QOTSA has definitely been a much mellower beast from Lullabies on.
post #12 of 72

Yeah, given the choice I'd like to see the stoner metal back, but this song has a nice groove and the guitars have just enough bite to give the song some edge. Promising so far.

post #13 of 72

Albums in the wild, kiddos. Touchstones here and there for QOTSA-style sounds, but this one's a whole new beast in and of itself. It's challenging. Its musically adventurous. Most of all, it makes me want to talk to people about it. This is a very personal-feeling album, and it seems like it catches everyone differently. Just make sure you buy it. My deluxe vinyl can't get here soon enough. This baby's gonna be a beast.

post #14 of 72
Pains me to say it but this album isn't doing a lot for me.

It has four really good songs in My God Is The Sun, Kalopsia, I Appear Missing and Like Clockwork. The two openers are okay as well, but so much of it sounds unmemorable and derivative of older Homme songs. e.g. Smooth Sailing just sounds like a mix of Gunman and the second half of No One Loves Me from the TCV record, but without the great riffs.

Doesn't help that it's sequenced really oddly, putting slow hookless songs early on in a way that the album doesn't really feel like it gets into gear until MGITS, and is still a mixed bag after that.

Normally I'd just find it disappointing, but somehow coming out with this after a six year gap and apparently troubled recording process, it feels almost ominous for the future of the band.

That said, other people seem to like it so maybe it's just me.
post #15 of 72

Not sure why I was so down on this. I still don't think it's near their Trilogy Of Godliness (Rated R to Lullabies) but it's still a good record.

post #16 of 72
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Not sure why I was so down on this. I still don't think it's near their Trilogy Of Godliness (Rated R to Lullabies) but it's still a good record.

 

 

Maybe it was just me, but I always thought Lullabyes to Paralyze was a bit of a grower, too. 

post #17 of 72
It is, for sure. Pretty sure it's still a divisive album. It's not their most fun but nowadays I think that one shows Homme at his peak in a lot of ways. Lots of top-drawer songwriting.
post #18 of 72
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This, really and truly, might be my favorite song by them ever. And knowing that this is only half of it? Staahp it.

Totally. I've been listening to it all night. Such an amazing song.

Enjoying the album overall. It's a bit Bowie for spurts here and there, but yeah, "I Appear Missing" takes the cake for me. It's one of those songs I could loop for a long time, which I rarely do.

post #19 of 72
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Really like the new album.

Don't know if its just the mood I'm in or what, but "Kalopsia" is just wrecking my world. 

post #20 of 72
Fun times as Josh chats it up with the gentlemen of The Nerdist podcast - http://www.nerdist.com/2013/06/nerdist-podcast-josh-homme/
post #21 of 72

I gave the new album a not-very-attentive listen today (or was it last night?) and it strikes me as sounding like a super-innovative album by a 70s AOR band  (this is not a slam). 

post #22 of 72

I love how "Smooth Sailing", which finally caught with me, has a pseudo-"Frankenstein" breakdown. But yeah, this album is totally 70s AOR.

post #23 of 72
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Maybe it was just me, but I always thought Lullabyes to Paralyze was a bit of a grower, too. 

All of them after the self titled debut have been "growers" for me; they all have made me think "This doesn't sound like the last album AT ALL!"

Which is pretty remarkable, if you think about it.

post #24 of 72
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Sort of agree in that I was hoping for at least a partial return to rollicking stoner metal, which based on these two songs isn't looking very likely. But I also enjoy a good dark Homme ballad and this is a pretty solid one.
 

Hate to post back-to-back, but...

 

QOTSA haven't been a "stoner" metal band since their first record. Part of the reason that he even named the band "Queens of the Stone Age" was that he hoped that people would just shorthand the name to "Queens" and that (along with the evolving sound) might alienate a lot of the "dude" element of their audience.

post #25 of 72

A QOTSA song with backing vocals by Reznor and Elton John (with his piano buried in the mix beneath Homme's amazing vocals).  Outstanding.  I clicked with this thing from the start and think 'I appear missing' is probably my new favorite QOTSA track.  

post #26 of 72

Yeah the full length I Appear Missing is one of their best ever, got to love when the solo and falsetto outro kicks in.

 

Apparently this is about to top the charts in the US?? That is kind of amazing. Really pleased to see them get so much appreciation and goodwill recently.

 

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Hate to post back-to-back, but...

 

QOTSA haven't been a "stoner" metal band since their first record. Part of the reason that he even named the band "Queens of the Stone Age" was that he hoped that people would just shorthand the name to "Queens" and that (along with the evolving sound) might alienate a lot of the "dude" element of their audience.

 

Well, whatever you want to call it, I just meant that it'd be nice for Homme to break out the sludgy pounding riffs again at some point.

post #27 of 72
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It's very pretty and clever, kind of Chris Cornelly, but for me Josh and Co are at their best in their more propulsive moments and this isn't one of them. Even when it gets a little blast-beaty it's still kind of ambling along and the way the chorus never resolves leaves it feeling a little weightless melodically.

Of course if I was up to my gills on drugs like you guys I'd probably hear it differently.

You guys were right, I've really come round on this song and have been digging ...Like Clockwork a lot more as it's sunk in. Still not as bright a sunshine-of-my-life as the first three albums, but definitely a sunshine-of-my-life.
post #28 of 72
I've listened to this album start to finish at least five times now. I never listen to albums start to finish. The sequencing is ridiculously perfect and every song is just so damn good. I also can't get over how good Josh's voice has gotten.
post #29 of 72

Looks like new stuff is on the way:

 

https://www.facebook.com/QOTSA/

post #30 of 72
They're also on the way to NZ in July. Good times!!!

I was just watching/listening-in-the-background to this live show a couple of days ago thinking it was about time they put out new stuff and got on a stage in front of me. Such is my power.
post #31 of 72
I wonder what sound they'll go for this time. They said they wanted to knock out something more uptempo after Like Clockwork, but that was years ago now.

I wouldn't mind a return to the stonking great riffs of old, but Josh has earned my trust either way.
post #32 of 72
It'll be a monumental feat if they're able to turn in something I find to be as magnificent as Like Clockwork.
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post #34 of 72

 

New single. One of their one-chord foot-stomper riff openers, a bit of a return to the more light-hearted Era Vulgaris sound, plenty of attention to detail and little twists I've come to expect so may reward repeat listens... bring on the album I say.

post #35 of 72
His voice gets better and better.

Really looking forward to hearing the complete set too, and - hot damn! - seeing them in real life again in just a few weeks now.
post #36 of 72
Best band on the planet bar none. Even with somewhat subpar sound in the venue last night they were magnificent.

So grunty. So sexy.
post #37 of 72

This leaked. Quality is garbage, though. It sounds like it's transcoded from 160kb/s .m4a files or a stream.

 

Hard to really evaluate the album fairly when it sounds so cruddy.

 

There's a lot of 70s-ish tones and effects. The obnoxiously compressed drums still stick out.

 

The first song was good. I'll have to give a few more listens to the real version in FLAC to see how I feel about the rest.

post #38 of 72

I might wait til I know I'm hearing a decent quality version. I've seen a fair variety of reactions, but most seem to be raving about the opener.

 

QOTSA records tend to improve with age so I won't be making any snap judgements.

post #39 of 72
Best and sexiest rock band on the planet, easily.
post #40 of 72
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QOTSA records tend to improve with age so I won't be making any snap judgements.
There's some truth to this. Rated R and Songs for the Deaf I loved right away. Both were fantastic and got even better the more I listened. Everything after I pretty much disliked from the get go. After revisiting much later I tend to find about two or three songs I really like, but for some reason the rest doesn't connect.
Also not a huge fan of their lives show. Seen them twice and both times it was just....it was alright, I guess. I probably won't try again.
But I'll give this new one a shot. I always do (that's how much goodwill Rated R and SFTD has earned). I probably should just make a playlist for myself of all the post-SFTD songs I really like. More Little Sister and 3's and 7's and less I'm Designer, Smooth Sailing, and Sick,Sick,Sick.

Oddly enough, weren't Little Sister and 3's and 7's singles from their albums? I'm usually the guy who hates the singles and loves the B-sides. I don't think I realized that I love the QotSA singles more than the B-sides before (Go With the Flow is one of my favorite songs ever).
post #41 of 72
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Rated R and Songs for the Deaf I loved right away. Both were fantastic and got even better the more I listened. Everything after I pretty much disliked from the get go. After revisiting much later I tend to find about two or three songs I really like, but for some reason the rest doesn't connect.

I had a pretty similar road with them, being pretty much madly in love for their first three albums but feeling a significant drop off from about the time Nick left the band after Songs For The Deaf.

Then Josh almost died and when he came back he somehow made ...Like Clockwork, which miraculously turned out to be the best rock album this millennium from any band on the planet, and I fell madly back in love.
post #42 of 72
Whaaaat? I didn't know he almost died. I'll have to look that one up.

And while it didn't connect for me on quite the same level as it did for you, I will give you Like Clockwork being a way better album than there at few, and easily their best since SFtD.

And the thing with Nick, yeah it would be easy for me to say "they're just not the same without Nick, blah blah blah." I can't because I full!y support why he was kicked out
post #43 of 72
Yeah, from what I know Nick had to go, but it didn't change that I felt the band lost a vital dimension for a couple or three albums because of it.

And also yeah, ...Like Clockwork makes a ton of sense not just musically but lyrically when you know Josh was properly fucked and at Death's door for a while before he made it. That's not some imaginary character he's singing about going through all that crazy stuff on that record. That's himself.
post #44 of 72

There's some ambiguity on exactly what happened to him. At first he claimed it was complications from a knee operation or something, then later he admitted he just made that up. Heart attack? Drug overdose? Who knows.

 

I count Lullabies To Paralyse as one of their top shelf albums so I've never gone along with the idea that there was any big decline. Era Vulgaris was a bit ramshackle but still decent, Like Clockwork never quite connected with me like it did with a lot of people but is still extremely solid and has some of their best tracks.

 

I caved and heard the new one in crappy rip form, a few times in fact. Another solid album IMO. It doesn't do anything radically new, but it's got all the smart arrangements and swaggering grooves I've come to expect. I'm seeing a lot of fans complaining about the production but I don't get the big problem, it sounds pretty similar to Era Vulgaris.

post #45 of 72
Ha, I never new he said he made that stuff up. He sure sounded real about it on WTF if I recall correctly.

I haven't listened to the crappy rip but I'm more than fine with how the new official released tracks sound. Josh has always loved that super dry thing.
post #46 of 72

Era Vulgaris and Lullabies are the ones I reach for lately. I've always loved Lullabies since I first heard it. That one has the best balance between rockin' and quirky tracks. Vulgaris has that satisfying dirtiness to it.

 

Songs for the Deaf is objectively their masterpiece, but I've burnt it out with repeat listenings.

 

I wish I could've seen them when they did the tour for the debut album reissue a few years ago. That would've been a lot different than their usual post-Clockwork setlists.

post #47 of 72
It's entirely possible my dissatisfaction with them post-SFTD is because I burnt out on music in general around that time, due to getting so crazy deep into song structure that I stopped hearing magic and only heard math. As a result I think I pretty much listened to nothing but podcasts from around 2005 to 2012.

So it may have been a me problem, not a them problem, all I know is when I heard Like Clockwork I realized I was hearing magic again.
post #48 of 72
I've been trying not to listen to the two singles too much before the album is out, in order to not have them feel like The Singles when I listen to the album.

I've been failing. The Evil Has Landed in particular is just too magnificent.
post #49 of 72

I'd say there are at least two rock monsters on the record to match that one, so look forward to those.

 

Maybe I'm spoiled by the modern age of people announcing records and releasing them a week later, but this does seem like an insanely protracted release.

 

In the meantime here's one of my favourite Josh videos:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJDUHq2mJx0

 

He just casually explains his guitar style like it's this simple thing, which is is, but everything he does there is so instantly recognisable as him alone. Also he's just a tremendously entertaining man in general.

post #50 of 72
Ha, I could've sworn I already posted that Guitar Moves video with Josh. I guess I just dreamt it. Great minds think alike and stuff. I wish I had something like that 15 years ago when I was feverishly trying to rip Josh off.

The episode of that series with Keef Richards is gold too by the way.
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