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The season is scheduled for 22 episodes; is this arc going to take up the whole season? 

 

I'm hoping that they recognize how well last year's decision to split the season into three separate (yet also connected) story arcs resulted in their strongest season, and that they repeat it. We'll see I guess.

post #5602 of 5712

 My guess on what destroyed the Earth. It wasn't Daisy; it was the creepy bald dude from the beginning who is clearly a Kree is disguise.

post #5603 of 5712
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The time travel conceit seems like a clever way of adapting to the new mandate that the show is to explore its own mythology instead of endlessly tying in with movies.

 

I don't think it's a coincidence that the show is going cosmic while Infinity War awaits.

post #5604 of 5712
It didn't escape my notice that we're getting more Kree as more Captain Marvel casting announcements come down the pike, either.

Which is totally fine with me, this show's version of the Kree are mean as hell. They're good villains.
post #5605 of 5712
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 My guess on what destroyed the Earth. It wasn't Daisy; it was the creepy bald dude from the beginning who is clearly a Kree is disguise.

Or maybe it was Black Bolt. The Inhumans show was so good, gotta tie it in with AoS somehow.

Either that or it's an Infinity War spoiler and Thanos fucked shit up.
post #5606 of 5712
Exec 1: “Do we have enough for a Chris Pratt type to basically be Starlord v2 this season?”
Exec 2: “No, but we can get a low rent Bradley Cooper. He played Rocket.”
Exec1: “well, they’re basically the same thing, right?”
post #5607 of 5712

Off-brand Starlord just turned in a solidly creepy performance in the excellent second season of SyFy's CHANNEL ZERO.

 

Very pleased with the opener.  Even if it means lots of cheap repetitive sets in our immediate future, I hope they keep the bulk of this season in space.  Its a different look for the show and I'm into it.    

post #5608 of 5712

The highlights for me where the Daisy vs two Kree dudes and the Inhuman vs the Champion fight.

post #5609 of 5712

I like where this is going already.  Also that little moment between Coulson and May on the ship where he put his hand on her shoulder? So good.

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Kasius's line about creating opportunity definitely makes me think he had a hand in whatever happened to Earth. You've got a planet with a rapidly expanding population of Inhumans to exploit, but limited ability to control them because it's an entire planet. Force the population into a much more contained area where you can breed them yourself seems like a good plan.

post #5611 of 5712

Kasius has, in three episodes, been a better Maximus than Maximus actually was in The Inhumans.

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Kasius's line about creating opportunity definitely makes me think he had a hand in whatever happened to Earth. You've got a planet with a rapidly expanding population of Inhumans to exploit, but limited ability to control them because it's an entire planet. Force the population into a much more contained area where you can breed them yourself seems like a good plan.

It satisfactorily answers the question I was left with after the first episode, which was "what's this guy's angle." It wouldn't make any sense that the Kree are bothering to maintain an outpost inhabited by a hostile occupied people just to salvage granite and iron. Selling Inhumans into slavery, even if it's just a side gig, justifies the wealth that the character surrounds himself with while making sure that he doesn't have a sympathetic bone in his body.

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The highlights for me where the Daisy vs two Kree dudes and the Inhuman vs the Champion fight.

I was struck by how comfortable Chloe Bennet looks when doing her own stunts after a few seasons of this. She was pulling off some real acrobatics with the two gigantic actors she partnered with for that scene.
post #5613 of 5712
Fitz has to be on the planet. I mean they have to eventually have him on the show again, right?
post #5614 of 5712
That’s my guess. Though, an older Fitz? Cryo fitz? Robofitz?
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Fitz's head in a jar ala Futurama would be pretty gnarly.

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Fucker's saved on a thumb drive like Arnim Zola.
post #5617 of 5712

I probably could have done without five solid minutes of the behemoth beating up on the little girl, whether he got his comeuppance or not.

 

I wonder if Nick Blood's appearance will tie back into Fitz in the present day trying to rescue them. He needs to break into somewhere to access a monolith or time machine, calls in reinforcements.

post #5618 of 5712
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Kasius has, in three episodes, been a better Maximus than Maximus actually was in The Inhumans.

 

I never saw The Inhumans so I can't agree / disagree with this, but the guy playing Kasius is doing a really good job with that role. Just the right amount of "Feelings? What are those?" and "Cry your tears into my wine glass so that I can drink them up", with a sprinkle of "I'm better than all of you" on top.  

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I probably could have done without five solid minutes of the behemoth beating up on the little girl, whether he got his comeuppance or not.

 

What, you didn't like this scene?

 

post #5620 of 5712

I have to admit I giggled like an idiot at the 'I love you' 'I know' bit.

post #5621 of 5712

Me too. Tonight's Fitz flashback episode was great stuff.

 

I really hope this isn't the final season.

post #5622 of 5712

I giggled at Hunter giving their names as Peltzer and Futterman. Somebody's a Gremlins fan, and just in time for Christmas.

post #5623 of 5712

 Fitz writing angry letters to soccer magazines to get Hunter's attention was clever.

 

 For the most part I thought last week's episode was just OK but Mac's confrontation with the guy who just wanted his baby was good.  

post #5624 of 5712

So that's what was missing for the season to click for me. Sunlight and Fitz.

post #5625 of 5712

I'm glad Fitz is back in the future. It felt odd with a member of the gang missing. 

post #5626 of 5712
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I'm glad Fitz is back in the future. It felt odd with a member of the gang missing. 
Especially when he was the character in arguably the most interesting position at the end of the previous season given what happened inside the Framework.
post #5627 of 5712

 My theory is that is was that people running that base that caused the world to spilt apart and they blamed Daisy when things started to go bad. They're clearly evil; why else would they shoot two officers in the head.

post #5628 of 5712

I think that general is going to be revealed to be an undercover Kree or something. Her reaction to hearing about the prophetic girl felt more 'this can change our takeover plans' than 'this could be a useful military asset.'

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I have a hunch that, given Zeke’s earlier comment about the multiverse, that we’re being led down a false path of what’s happening. I suspect that this season may tie into Infinity War, though if the creators have disabused us of that notion, do let me know. Just seems convenient that we’re finally meeting THE big bad just when the world has been destroyed.

Anyways, great to have Hunter back even if just for a hot minute.
post #5630 of 5712
I was late getting around to watching this episode, but this was some much needed cheer after a depressing start to the season. The reveal of Enoch as a secret ally, and as a novel take on some of the concepts of Uatu the Watcher, was really nice. The return of Robin as the source of all this prophecy business seemed like a clever use of what previous seasons of this show had already provided. The shot of Zephyr One flying away from the base and cloaking had me laughing out loud.

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My theory is that is was that people running that base that caused the world to spilt apart and they blamed Daisy when things started to go bad. They're clearly evil; why else would they shoot two officers in the head.


That we still essentially know nothing about General Hale (the woman who shot the two agents at the end) or the crew that Enoch led in the cast's abduction means that there are still a lot of gaps in the story taking place in the present day. I wouldn't be surprised if the future story arc is about learning what really destroyed the Earth, before the show goes back to the present and there's a decently large scale fight to prevent it.
post #5631 of 5712
It’s kind of amazing how, in a show that started out as a vehicle for more Coulson, he’s become arguably the least interesting main character. Fitz, Simmons, and Mac are consistently the MVP’s, May gets the best action sequences and some nice dead-pan humor and Quake at least has her powers. YoYo is rounding into a nice addition to the team and her position is elevated a ton by being involved with Mac. Coulson feels pretty extraneous at this point on what started as his show.
post #5632 of 5712

Nah, Coulson has always been the aggressively normal guy at the center of endless weirdness. But that might have played better if they hadn't had to spend so much time explaining why he wasn't dead.

post #5633 of 5712
Coulson is, and has been, the best Dad on TV.
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I wish Coulson was my Dad.

 

*sniff*

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Coulson is like Hannibal from The A-Team. Sure, you may have bought BA's action figure, secretly wanted to grow up to be Face, and claimed Murdock was your favorite character, but, deep down, you knew everything else would have fallen apart without that guy smoking a cigar and loving it when a plan came together. 

 

What amazes me about this show is how much they've turned Daisy around. Back during her Skye era, she was probably the worst character for me. Cute? Sure. Interesting? Nah. I remember someone (Schwartz maybe?) pointing out how ridiculous it was that the girl with the super-powers also had kick-ass martial arts abilities. I think it helps that the show is less structured around her now, and that the others have been given their own time to shine, but I actually enjoy her as a character now. 

 

Mac's probably my favorite character now, though. Henry Simmons is a really good actor and you can tell that the writers picked up on that. His scenes in the Framework last season were legitimately heartbreaking toward the end, and there's a sense of sadness to him this year that's really noticeable. I was happy to see his trademark weapon make a cameo in the latest episode. 

post #5636 of 5712
I think some of my issue is that it feels like Mac and Coulson’s roles overlap a bit. They both give off a solid Dad vibe and fill a ‘normal guy reacting to crazy shit’ role well, but I guess I just prefer Mac’s version. It also feels like a some of his material (like giving him a family in the Framework) feels like something they would have given Coulson if Mac weren’t around. Coulson’s Framework version wasn’t ‘bad’ story but it was by far the least interesting of anyones.

I’m not saying he’s bad by any means. His ‘we’ve been together so long we might as well settle down’ romance with May is kind of cute, but it’s starting to feel to me more and more like a retirement or a ‘heroic sacrifice’ to allow the next generation to take over SHIELD might be the best way to go.

And sorry Reasor but the best Dad in TV is Bob Belcher hands down.
post #5637 of 5712
I definitely get a kick out of how Ward's heel turn seemed to make room for Daisy that didn't exist beforehand. She can be the team's big gun now, in a show where the big gun isn't always the person who saves the day.
post #5638 of 5712
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I think some of my issue is that it feels like Mac and Coulson’s roles overlap a bit. They both give off a solid Dad vibe and fill a ‘normal guy reacting to crazy shit’ role well

 

Mac reacts against crazy shit. Coulson embraces it.

post #5639 of 5712

 Mac is prepared for the crazy shit; his life insurance policy includes killer robots.

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Coulson: She's not the only inhuman with us.

Flint: (Looks at Mack) This guy?

Yo-Yo: No, he's just cool.

Mack: (Smug grin)

 

Fun episode. Lots of stuff happened! Lots of surprising deaths!

 

* Enoch is probably my favorite new character this season. If we get a season 6, I'd love for them to find a way to add him to the team.

 

* Daisy and Simmons' brief scene was nice. Those two actresses always seem to be fun to watch together. The show should pair them up more.

 

* Anyone else laugh at the boulder death?

 

* Better Call Saul's Patrick Fabian showed up and was just as much of a snide dick here. Fuck your snails, Patrick Fabian. 

 

* SHIELD is apparently "one of the galaxy's most despised organizations"!

 

* Directed by Coulson himself. Good job, sir! 


Edited by MrSaxon - 1/6/18 at 9:28am
post #5641 of 5712
Shit’s getting real. Shocked they killed who, and as many, as they did.

Earthbender!!! Whoo!

Have to say, the scene with Fitz proposing to Simmons was really well done.
post #5642 of 5712
The pacing of this season has been spot on so far. The triumphant breakout at the end of this week's episode came just as I had had about enough of watching the cast wallow in helplessness. I was ready for things to turn around.
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Earthbender!!! Whoo!
 

My working theory had been that it was going to be Daisy that shoved the Earth back together. Now I'm pretty sure it's this kid. Which is in keeping with the whole 'Terrigenesis creates the Inhumans that there is a need for (and when it is convenient to the plot)' thing from the Hive season.

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Like others here I'm getting a kick out of this season for a variety of reasons - one of which, of course, is to nitpick the heck out of inane plot points. For instance, Mr. Kree Bad Guy says the telepath is the weakest of the Inhuman slaves. The guy who constantly wages a neferious campaign of domination against anyone and everyone who are ALL hiding secrets doesn't discreetly use the telepath to constantly upstage and trap his opponents? Or kick ass in all negotiations over slave prices and contracts? Or screen the leaders of the human colony on a regular basis for info and traps? Really???? Nah, let's just stick him into a pit where he can kung-fu fight some slaves. 

post #5645 of 5712

Mac's horror at no tacos in the dark future was hilarious.

 

Can only imagine what Coulson and Co. are going to be facing when they back to the present.

post #5646 of 5712
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* Better Call Saul's Patrick Fabian showed up and was just as much of a snide dick here. Fuck your snails, Patrick Fabian. 

 

Every time I see him I keep thinking that it's nice that Anthony Michael Hall keeps getting work.

post #5647 of 5712
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Mac's horror at no tacos in the dark future was hilarious.

 

Can only imagine what Coulson and Co. are going to be facing when they back to the present.

 

At this point I'm pretty comfortable with saying Mac and Fitz are the two best guys in the entire MCU.

post #5648 of 5712

Clark Gregg says the 100th episode coming in March will "destroy fans". 

 

I swear, if they kill Fitz or Simmons........

post #5649 of 5712
That's six episodes from now. The season so far has been so zany that I can't hazard a guess how much will happen between now and then.

I wouldn't have believed that I'd ever say this back when Ward was throwing Fitz's ham sandwich away, but damn, people are missing out if they're not watching this show.
post #5650 of 5712

Agreed. I honestly can't remember the last time I watched a bad episode of this show. 

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