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As I agree with everyone's view that there is no need for a new movie, I am still actually kind of glad that its getting made. I agree with pfloyd in that we need more zombie movies to see, and if this is the way it has to come for now then what the hell! I mean this is a big budget zombie movie.
It obviously isn't going to compare to the original but who cares, I love horror movies..both good and bad. Even if it does suck it'll just make the first one seem that much better.
It obviously isn't going to compare to the original but who cares, I love horror movies..both good and bad. Even if it does suck it'll just make the first one seem that much better.
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6/10/03 at 4:20am
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An example of my obsession with films:
While out for a drive the other day, I noticed that the driver of the car next to me looked just like priest in DAWN OF THE DEAD, and my immediate thought was
"HOLY SHIT, HOW CAN HE DRIVE WITH ONE LEG ????"
Anyways, good or bad, I'm looking forward to the remake ... If it sucks, there's always the original, right ???
While out for a drive the other day, I noticed that the driver of the car next to me looked just like priest in DAWN OF THE DEAD, and my immediate thought was
"HOLY SHIT, HOW CAN HE DRIVE WITH ONE LEG ????"
Anyways, good or bad, I'm looking forward to the remake ... If it sucks, there's always the original, right ???
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6/10/03 at 7:56am
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Dawn of the Dead is probably my favorite movie, and with that said, I agree with the majority of: why bother?
The original is great and you can't improve greatness.
BUT I am really looking forward to this movie...actually I am squirming in my seat waiting for this movie.
A bad remake will only cement the classic status of the original.
A good remake will be a great movie, and make the original a cult classic (as if it wasn't already),
and give more attention to the original, and maybe give George Romero a few more jobs or interest in his next zombie movie.
A good way of looking at this is the Night of the Living Dead remake:
For those who liked it, the original was either not trashed, or completely untouched in classic status.
For those who hated it, it did nothing to destroy the original in any way.
Also, the remake was looked at as a flop in theaters, so what, in the long run did it hurt.
Pretty much, this dawn remake IS being made. That is Bible fact, folks.
Either support it, or shun it, but it is happening whether we like it or not.
It's like what Henry Rollins once said:
You're going to like it and take it. Or you're going to hate it and take it. Either way, you're going to take it.
That sounds like all the choice we have.
The original is great and you can't improve greatness.
BUT I am really looking forward to this movie...actually I am squirming in my seat waiting for this movie.
A bad remake will only cement the classic status of the original.
A good remake will be a great movie, and make the original a cult classic (as if it wasn't already),
and give more attention to the original, and maybe give George Romero a few more jobs or interest in his next zombie movie.
A good way of looking at this is the Night of the Living Dead remake:
For those who liked it, the original was either not trashed, or completely untouched in classic status.
For those who hated it, it did nothing to destroy the original in any way.
Also, the remake was looked at as a flop in theaters, so what, in the long run did it hurt.
Pretty much, this dawn remake IS being made. That is Bible fact, folks.
Either support it, or shun it, but it is happening whether we like it or not.
It's like what Henry Rollins once said:
You're going to like it and take it. Or you're going to hate it and take it. Either way, you're going to take it.
That sounds like all the choice we have.
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6/10/03 at 8:11am
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There's some things I just don't get. I can't explain who the targeted audience is. True horror fans obviously don't like the idea of remaking classics, and teens don't care about remakes: they're not attracted by the name of the movie 'cause they just don't know the classics! So who's supposed to be glad to hear about a Texas chainsaw or a DOTD remake, really?
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The worst part is, I can bitch about it all I want, I'm still gonna pay for this as soon as it gets released... which might be a partial answer to my question...
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6/10/03 at 12:08pm
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At some point someone might just make a good remake you never know.
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6/10/03 at 1:00pm
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Ok, I’ll be a crazy inbreed Canadian heathen, but DotD was good but I seriously think it could be better on some levels.
I know that George A. Romero did not intent to make this about a horror survival movie and claims that it was more of a social statement like in NotD. But just between you and me, yes, ok the dead coming back to life is pretty disturbing, frightening and horrific, but I would be damned stupid If I did not the advantages that this group had in the shopping mall. Weapons, ammo, food, equipment galore. For gods shakes people kill the slow moving mother fuckers and build a fortress.
Oh and could someone tell me what the hell is that shot with the zombies on ice with the crappy music is supposed to represent in this masterpiece of human sociological studies?
Sure Dawns has it’s moments, but I do think it could be improved upon, just my humble inbreed not on the bandwagon opinion.
Cheers!
I know that George A. Romero did not intent to make this about a horror survival movie and claims that it was more of a social statement like in NotD. But just between you and me, yes, ok the dead coming back to life is pretty disturbing, frightening and horrific, but I would be damned stupid If I did not the advantages that this group had in the shopping mall. Weapons, ammo, food, equipment galore. For gods shakes people kill the slow moving mother fuckers and build a fortress.
Oh and could someone tell me what the hell is that shot with the zombies on ice with the crappy music is supposed to represent in this masterpiece of human sociological studies?
Sure Dawns has it’s moments, but I do think it could be improved upon, just my humble inbreed not on the bandwagon opinion.
Cheers!
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| HellSpawn: Ok, I’ll be a crazy inbreed Canadian heathen, but DotD was good but I seriously think it could be better on some levels. I know that George A. Romero did not intent to make this about a horror survival movie and claims that it was more of a social statement like in NotD. But just between you and me, yes, ok the dead coming back to life is pretty disturbing, frightening and horrific, but I would be damned stupid If I did not the advantages that this group had in the shopping mall. Weapons, ammo, food, equipment galore. For gods shakes people kill the slow moving mother fuckers and build a fortress. Oh and could someone tell me what the hell is that shot with the zombies on ice with the crappy music is supposed to represent in this masterpiece of human sociological studies? Sure Dawns has it’s moments, but I do think it could be improved upon, just my humble inbreed not on the bandwagon opinion. Cheers! |
The pie fight or the escalator highjinxs or the ice rink zombie maddness were probably just Romero's way of putting a little levity in an otherwise grim situation.
While the movie might be a comment on society, I don't think EACH scene can be seen as such, and I, personally, don't think Romero meant each scene to be a commentary or social issue.
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And like most almost every chewer said, if this remake sucks well were are no worse off since we do have the original, right.
My only regret in all this is, I would really prefer that money invested in project likes this be injected in new stories or new concepts about undeads are not the already well made movies of the past.
Although as remakes goes J.C. "The Thing" is my favorite horror flic and is somewhat of a remake that really improves on the original, and I think on the short story it was derived from.
My 2 cents,
Cheers!
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I hear you Hellspawn, I guess we just have to hope for the best on all accounts.
I know I'll see it as soon as it comes out, but I will keep my fingers crossed anyway.
I know I'll see it as soon as it comes out, but I will keep my fingers crossed anyway.
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Who the hell is Kevin Zegers? And judging from the picture on the site, the only role this guy is suited for in DOTD would be as extra #366: zombie T-ball kid.
How were they out of place? The people who were doing the pie fight were a bunch of thugs and bandits getting their kicks.
I'm not sure what escalator hi-jinx and ice-rink madness you're referring to--there's not a single frame of Dawn of the Dead that I'd like to see changed, and that's something I can't say about many, if any other, horror movies.
As for the social commentary/metaphorical aspect, remember, we can read all these things into the movie, but this never diminishes the actual drama and horror and black humor intrinsic in every scene of Dawn of the Dead. Romero is a good-enough filmmaker--and at the very top of his game in this movie--that we can read every scene of DOTD on multpile levels, but never need lose sight of the actual literal reality on the surface. The movie plays simultaneously as both metaphor and reality.
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I'm not sure what escalator hi-jinx and ice-rink madness you're referring to--there's not a single frame of Dawn of the Dead that I'd like to see changed, and that's something I can't say about many, if any other, horror movies.
As for the social commentary/metaphorical aspect, remember, we can read all these things into the movie, but this never diminishes the actual drama and horror and black humor intrinsic in every scene of Dawn of the Dead. Romero is a good-enough filmmaker--and at the very top of his game in this movie--that we can read every scene of DOTD on multpile levels, but never need lose sight of the actual literal reality on the surface. The movie plays simultaneously as both metaphor and reality.
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