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I looked for a Fox News thread but either I'm blind or there hasn't been one in years.  Anyway, here's the latest gem of magical thinking from our friends on Bull*&^% Mountain, by way of senior managing editor for Health News Dr. Manny Alvarez (originally spied on Raw Story):

 

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Dr. Manny: America's obsession with 'The Walking Dead' is hurting our society

By Dr. Manny Alvarez

Dr Manny's Notes

Published October 17, 2013
FoxNews.com

 

Is watching “The Walking Dead” seriously hurting American society?

 

I would argue ‘Yes.’  Hate me all you want, or call me paranoid and misinformed, but there is one common theme that is pervasive in American pop culture today: violence.  Even more specifically, zombie violence. The idea of a zombie-infested world inspires fantasies of monsters possessed by an uncontrollable rage to kill, and viewers get a thrill imagining what it would be like to participate in this new world order.

 

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The obsession also permeates into other facets of our lives, such as with so-called Zombie Runs, in which people dressed as zombies chase other “civilians” to make them run faster towards the finish line.  Even scientists at the National Institutes of Health have spent time creating an apocalyptic how-to guide on dealing with a zombie outbreak.

 

 

Wait for it...

 

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With this country heading towards a socialized system of government, in which officials don’t want you to think or focus on what is important for your own personal growth, I’m sure they’re more than happy to let you obsess over something as stupid as zombies.

 

And in turn, you ultimately become the zombie.

 

 

They're coming to get you, Barbara!

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"Our society has a real problem with violence, and paranoid apocalyptic fantasies. Coming up: why President Obama is coming for your guns."

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I don't agree with him on the brainwashing aspect of it, but I do think America's obsession with zombies is just stupid.  Seriously, this is a story on the front page of Huffington Post today:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bon-appetit/how-to-eat--and-eat-well_b_4170986.html

 

Fucking stupid.

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I feel like the media, either intentionally or not, have performed an amazing feat of social engineering, transforming our society into 300,000,000 perpetual adolescents: aggressively ignorant, superficial and quick to anger.

Once you realize that most people have the emotional maturity of your average 13-year-old, you then can have some idea of how to deal with that sort of petulance.

Basically hide them from your Facebook feed.
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Fox News is the gift that keeps on giving, for those who love comedy.  Thankfully, "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" exist, so we don't have to watch it ourselves.  I did watch a little after the 2012 election to see how the talking heads would explain how their "insights" were way off base, but even that proved to be too much.

 

On the other hand, I know lots of people who love Fox News and get caught up in its web of lies.  There's nothing quite like hearing some bullshit conspiracy theory be spewed from a friend or family member with conviction.  I haven't heard anyone close to me mention anything about "The Walking Dead" yet, but I do remember an older lady I know telling me not to watch The Muppets because it was trying to brainwash people into thinking capitalism was bad.

 

I've come across some Dr. Keith Ablow fans as well, and that's a fan club we should all be worried about.

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Fox did try its hand at a right wing version of TDS once: "The Half Hour News Hour". That title was the only thing successful about the whole thing.

 

It's weird to see them go after The Walking Dead like this. If one MUST twist it into a political parable, it's clearly about the necessity of storing vast quantities of weapons for when the shit goes down.

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Fox did try its hand at a right wing version of TDS once: "The Half Hour News Hour". That title was the only thing successful about the whole thing.

It's weird to see them go after The Walking Dead like this. If one MUST twist it into a political parable, it's clearly about the necessity of storing vast quantities of weapons for when the shit goes down.

Yeah, did I read that right? He's worried TWD is teaching Americans to BE zombies?
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

I feel like the media, either intentionally or not, have performed an amazing feat of social engineering, transforming our society into 300,000,000 perpetual adolescents: aggressively ignorant, superficial and quick to anger.
 

 

And thus easier to sell things to.   I'd check the box under "intentionally."

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Yeah, did I read that right? He's worried TWD is teaching Americans to BE zombies?

 

It doesn't seem like he's making that connection directly.  More like "Why are you obsessing about Zombies when you should be worried about the terrors of creeping socialism?!?"

 

It's yet another stealth-sedition piece by Fox News, basically.  "Get your guns to fight the evil Gubb'mint, not fictitious Zombies!"

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Originally Posted by Warren Peace View Post
 

Fox did try its hand at a right wing version of TDS once: "The Half Hour News Hour". That title was the only thing successful about the whole thing.

 

 

They have a "funny" news discussion show too, with that awful smug cunt who I suspect was engineered in a lab to have the most punchable face in the history of TV.

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Is watching “The Walking Dead” seriously hurting American society?

 

I would argue ‘Yes.’ Hate me all you want, or call me paranoid and misinformed,

 

I should have just stopped reading at this point.

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I should have just stopped reading at this point.

 

... and sent off a missive calling him paranoid and misinformed.

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I've always assumed Fox and Friends is performance art..It makes Steve Doocy's clueless act, and not Steve Doocy's false indignation about everything that much more tolerable....not sure what Hitler youth blond they have as the token woman these days...
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Colbert and his people are just brilliant....

 

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So staff writer Rob Dubbin designed an algorithm that posts a Twitter comment that combines a positive film review from the website Rotten Tomatoes that swaps out the film names with the names of “beloved Fox News shows and personalities.”

 

 

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/430202/november-04-2013/-realhumanpraise-for-fox-news

 

https://twitter.com/RealHumanPraise
 

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Isn't it great when a piece of classical music gets forever redefined by a network about a bunch of foul mouthed brats? #PraiseFOX

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Stossel is inspiring, cathartic, poetic, hopeful, and makes you want to throw on a backpack, start walking and find yourself. #PraiseFOX
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John Stossel builds dread of these strange children through insinuation and mood, and the audience gets the real thing: fear #PraiseFOX

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There is no explanation for the utter brilliance and superiority of Colbert and his writing team.  Must be witchcraft! 

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The O'Reilly Factor falls short of greatness by a country mile; it's too chatty for its own good sometimes. #PraiseFOX
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Mike Huckabee's haunting, hallucinatory Vietnam War epic is punditry at its most audacious and visionary. #PraiseFOX

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Fox News Reporting made me laugh harder than any TV show I've seen this year. #PraiseFOX
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The TV show's most compelling element of all is Palin, wandering the nighttime streets trying to find her lover. #PraiseFOX
post #17 of 482

The thing about The Walking Dead, is that it should be an allegory about the undying racial prejudices that pervade the southeastern USA, where the show takes place.

 

But what do I know, I gave up on it after 6 episodes because i found the narrative choices to be terrible.

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But ... interpersonal relationships!  No, I kid the Walking Dead.  I'll keep watching it but wish they were more Romero-esque. 

 

Seriously, though, it's creeping socialism (according to Fox).

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http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/10/15/wayne-simmons-right-wing-medias-benghazi-expert/206194

 

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/10/16/after-arrest-of-wayne-simmons-conservative-beng/206221

 

 

Tasty. Won't change a thing, Fox News will keep lying because their viewership doesn't care about the truth, but tasty all the same.

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Ahahahahaha!
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Sure, Hannity, ISIS and Iran are going to team up and nuke us:

https://youtu.be/KUYwjTK1pPc
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ISIS v Iran: Dawn of Nuke Us
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Harry Reid is the 'poster boy for anarchy', according to Bill O'Reilly:

'Kate's Law,' Donald Trump and Ben Carson.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/podcasts/TalkingPoints/~5/654-QcjHttU/oreilly_talkingpoints_102015_FNC_MED.mp4.
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I was debating where to put this link, but I guess this thread will do:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/11/18/was-neil-cavutos-painful-interview-with-a-college-student-activist-fair-game/?tid=sm_tw

 

I likely wouldn't even know this interview existed, if not for the conservative voices on my Facebook feed.  They can't stop talking about, desperately wanting to believe that this one girl represents an entire movement.  The piece makes good points about how media need to vet, although, I'm fairly certain Fox got everything it wanted - the only thing missing was a smug Jesse Waters.  A real dialogue is possible, but the media need to want it.

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Maybe I'm being an asshole here, but: It's fair game. I forget her name, but I recall some citizen Conservative woman (who had achieved 15 minutes of fame at a town hall or something) being outmatched and dismantled by Lawrence O'Donnell in a similar fashion several years ago. My political sympathies lie quite heavily and comfortably with the left, but I can objectively state that if you are not prepared to have a conversation at a certain level, then you probably shouldn't enter into the fray. O'Donnell knew as well as Cavuto that they had the upper-hand in their respective interviews, and the fact that I have very little respect for the latter's POV doesn't really change that.

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In a prisoner swap, Iran has agreed to release four American detainees, a point of contention among conservatives against the nuclear deal.  Fox reported the news, but the jubilation one would expect from an organization that criticized the imprisonments to such a high degree was absent:

 

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/01/iran-release-four-american-detainees

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The "Obama doesn't care about the prisoners" argument was always complete bullshit. It's increasingly apparent that the administration fought for their release, but did so in a strategic and diplomatic manner. Issuing threats or making immediate demands would only have toppled delicate negotiations. Of course, conservatives who were against the nuclear deal will find other ways to criticize it.
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That could be a win/win for everyone involved. In light of Trump's candidacy for the White House, Fox News has probably caught on that they're in danger of being seen as too establishment for the important cousin fucker demographic, and Robertson presumably wants another spike in Duck Dynasty merchandise sales like the one prompted by his father's horrific verbal ejaculations.
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Megyn Kelly's contract will be up soon enough, and she has certainly hinted that an extension with Fox isn't exactly a shoe-in.  Despite the Trump craziness, Kelly is still a huge part of the Fox brand and losing her would be a blow.  Then again, Fox has done a piss-poor job of defending her during the spat with Trump, and O'Reilly's ego and misogyny won't allow him to respect her.  Even if Fox sends dump trucks of cash to her house, I'd imagine a hostile working environment like Fox (particularly for women) could still be too much of a detriment. 

 

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/what-megyn-kellys-meeting-with-trump-means.html

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Which explains why she went after Trump: It establishes her personal "Brand" apart from Fox News. See also: Katie Couric.

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Neal Dewing, a conservative writer, got a hold of an early copy of Andrea Tantaros' book, and was flabbergasted by the bad writing.  I'm not usually in the habit of recommending conservative Twitter handles, but Dewing took pictures of the text and eventually recorded videos of himself reading excerpts:

 

https://twitter.com/Neal_Dewing

 

One of the videos is sort of shitty because he can't help but give Tantaros a whiny voice, but there are actual laughs to be had.

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Here are the pictures Dewing took from Tantaros' book.

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I'm gonna have to get that book, aren't I?

It'll probably be the funniest thing I'll read all year.
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If I see it in a used bookstore far in the future, I might pick if up for some laughs.  The price would definitely need to be right though.

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A bit more on Tantaros' book:

 

http://www.mediaite.com/online/lets-talk-about-andrea-tantaros-cruel-diss-of-mike-brzezinski-in-her-new-book/

 

The writer is considering a review, which excites me for some reason.

post #37 of 482

Greta van Susteren complaining about NASA salaries because newly-detailed photos of Pluto weren't magically ready seconds after New Horizons took them:

 

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/1/11832080/nasa-detailed-photos-pluto-delay

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Greta van Susteren complaining about NASA salaries because newly-detailed photos of Pluto weren't magically ready seconds after New Horizons took them:

 

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/1/11832080/nasa-detailed-photos-pluto-delay

 

For

Fucks

Sake....

 

 

I liked Phil Plait's response...

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Phil Plait Verified account@BadAstronomer

 

@greta Why do you publicly assume some nefarious plot instead of asking someone who might know first?

 

Then she tried to cover her ass...tried...

 

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Greta Van Susteren Verified account@greta

 

Greta Van Susteren Retweeted Phil Plait

 

not nefarious (they had to do some work to get) -- but I suspect it is slow...maybe budget cuts

 

ETA-- I just read that Van Susteren and her husband are scientologists....

 

Shouldn't that mean that she has some knowledge of outer space?   : )

 


Edited by VTRan - 6/2/16 at 5:04pm
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There must be some pretty damning evidence if the Murdochs are in a hurry to get rid of Roger Ailes.  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roger-ailes-fox-news_us_578d0bbae4b0a0ae97c2d937

 

Here's hoping Gretchen makes all the money off that scumbag.

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Supposedly Murdoch's kids hate Ailes and have wanted him gone for years.  They're just seizing the opportune moment.

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Ailes has double-puppetchin.
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I take Megyn Kelly's silence as a good indicator that Ailes is probably going to lose his job. However, as someone said on Twitter, Ailes may be out, but his life's work is playing out at the Republican convention right now.
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Of course the fucker gets a gigantic payout.  Here's to Carlson and his other victims taking that payout away from him piece by piece.

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As I've said, there aren't any winners here, at least none that I can cheer on. The sexual harassment is one thing, but people like Carlson and Kelly still have hideous opinions apart from it and willfully push false narratives to further their own hideous agenda.

 

Roger Ailes is a scumbag. Megyn Kelly is a piece of shit. Those two opinions are not in conflict with one another.

post #49 of 482

I hate that this is the second Breitbard story I'm posting (because why the fuck am I ever on that vile site) but this one certainly seems newsworthy, and shocking:

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/19/exclusive-fox-news-stands-roger-ailes-megyn-kelly-50-fox-contributors-primetime-willing-walk-ailes/

 

As I'm reading it now, it's hard to ignore the lack of proofreading and editing, or the blatant hatred for Megyn Kelly, but this still feels like it's going to be a huge story.

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I hate that this is the second Breitbard story I'm posting (because why the fuck am I ever on that vile site) but this one certainly seems newsworthy, and shocking:

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/19/exclusive-fox-news-stands-roger-ailes-megyn-kelly-50-fox-contributors-primetime-willing-walk-ailes/

 

As I'm reading it now, it's hard to ignore the lack of proofreading and editing, or the blatant hatred for Megyn Kelly, but this still feels like it's going to be a huge story.

 

I can't see how we can lose (we = "rest of humanity outside the Fox bubble"). If they all walk, Fox will replace them. If there's one thing we learned about Murdoch while he was still one of ours, he doesn't respond well to threats. I imagine at least most of them will fold, though. Even that's a win as they humiliate themselves in begging to keep their jobs or whatever. Obvious proviso as to how much if any of this is true, of course.

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