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post #1501 of 2722

FREDDY'S DEAD and TANK GIRL are ugh. TV work I can't even judge her on because it's so hard to tell what's the showrunner and what's the director. If this is true it's definitely disappointing. Male directors appear to judged on whether they're cool up-and-comers with original ideas while the female directors appear to judged on whether they have enough experience that they won't totally fuck it up.

post #1502 of 2722
It's not like that at all.
post #1503 of 2722
You can't tell me that there aren't 150 more promising choices ahead of Talalay. This is the problem with people thinking it matters whether or not a black person directs a film about a black superhero or a woman directs a film about a female superhero. It doesn't.

Jenkins and (potentially) Talalay are tools for suits. They can cosmetically appear more progressive whilst hiring someone they can control. It strikes me as rather patronizing.
post #1504 of 2722
Neither can you, because you don't know her pitch, vision, enthusiasm, or capability for handling a modern big-budget film backed by Disney. So, let's not?

I personally haven't said shit about my opinion on Talalay. But I will say this: The person I got this info from is another director on that list, someone who I would much rather see direct the film.
post #1505 of 2722
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Neither can you, because you don't know her pitch, vision, enthusiasm, or capability for handling a modern big-budget film backed by Disney. So, let's not?

I personally haven't said shit about my opinion on Talalay. But I will say this: The person I got this info from is another director on that list, someone who I would much rather see direct the film.
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post #1506 of 2722
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Neither can you, because you don't know her pitch, vision, enthusiasm, or capability for handling a modern big-budget film backed by Disney. So, let's not?

The optics on this sort of thing are interesting, so I will proceed at my leisure. I also think that some of the names they come up with has to do with the *relatively* shallow pool of female genre directors whom they feel might be a good fit for this material. It really boxes you in.
post #1507 of 2722
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Neither can you, because you don't know her pitch, vision, enthusiasm, or capability for handling a modern big-budget film backed by Disney. So, let's not?

I personally haven't said shit about my opinion on Talalay. But I will say this: The person I got this info from is another director on that list, someone who I would much rather see direct the film.

Is it Lexi Alexander?

post #1508 of 2722
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Originally Posted by Raynis View Post

It's not like that at all.


Lets see... Ryan Coogler, Rick Famuyiwa, Jon Watt, Taika Waititi, James Wan, the Russos Bros... These are all genuinely exciting directors. I don't know who the other people on the list are, but you can't tell me there aren't more interesting female directors out there.

 

I also don't know Talalay's pitch but I can sure as shit judge her previous film outings. And if she does a complete 180 and completely and blows me away I'll admit i was wrong.

post #1509 of 2722
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The optics on this sort of thing are interesting, so I will proceed at my leisure.

That's fair.

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post #1510 of 2722
"Maybe nobody told ya since you got out but I don't shine shoes no more."
post #1511 of 2722
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Is it Lexi Alexander?

No but Lexi is 100% on that list. But she's been on a few the past two years, even a big meeting for RAGNAROK where I thought she was doing it for sure.

I believe they think she's too risky. But it's the kind of risky that's good for her. She's no shit-taker.
post #1512 of 2722

Talalay's filmography isn't particularly inspiring, but I actually think it might be useful to pick a female director, even if it is just for optics. Captain Marvel, no matter who directs it, is hardly going to be some artistic expression; it is just going to be another Marvel movie. More than likely, it will be successful. Hollywood is nothing if not stupid, so if they see a big-budget blockbuster make good money with a woman at the helm, they are more likely to consider women for directing gigs going forward. More diversity in the directing pool can only be a good thing. Sure, Marvel just wants a female director because it makes them look good, but the move could help more female directors with interesting, original visions break into the industry, so it seems like a wash to me. 

post #1513 of 2722
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Is it Lexi Alexander?

 

Holy shit this.

post #1514 of 2722
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Holy shit this.

Lexi has said a couple times that she she isn't interested in these Superhero movies hasn't she? Like didn't she not want the Wonder Woman gig? 

post #1515 of 2722
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Lexi has said a couple times that she she isn't interested in these Superhero movies hasn't she? Like didn't she not want the Wonder Woman gig? 

 

THROW MONEY AT HER.

post #1516 of 2722
She's pretty active on Twitter, retweeting fans of "Punisher: War Zone." Does she have room in her schedule to make a film?
post #1517 of 2722
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post
 

Lexi has said a couple times that she she isn't interested in these Superhero movies hasn't she? Like didn't she not want the Wonder Woman gig? 


She directed an episode of "Supergirl". I think she's open to it.

post #1518 of 2722
I would pick Jennifer Yuh. She directed all three Kung Fu Panda movies so she can frame action and handle an ensemble.

Brad Bird made the transition from animation to live action, so it is possible.

Plus she claims Van Damme's "Cyborg" is one of the most influential films for her.

That's awesome.
post #1519 of 2722
That's actually a very insightful pick. Not familiar with her, but a Kung Fu Panda movie is a good audition tape for a Marvel movie. Assuming she can do live action and gets along with the suits and Brie Larson.
post #1520 of 2722

I misspoke when I said she directed all three of those movies.  She directed both sequels after working on the first one.  So, she's very much someone who is capable of towing the company line.

 

I've only seen the first two movies and they are actually pretty entertaining.

post #1521 of 2722
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I remember she was rumored for a Preacher movie for years. Weird times.

Her commentary on ANOES supplemental material about her wanting to get Freddy's Dead away from all the vaginal imagery in the previous movies is perhaps good intentioned, but that's some of my favorite stuff in those movies!
Freddy's Dead is the WORST of the sequels IMO. By a fair margin.
post #1522 of 2722
It's weird because Talalay worked on all the damn movies, so when it was her turn to direct, I have no idea why she didn't understand that making it a "Twin Peaks" episode isn't the best approach.
post #1523 of 2722
I liked Freddy's Dead more than its reputation. At least it's super wacky.
post #1524 of 2722
The only person who has a right to kill Freddy is Nancy (maaaaaybe Alice). Not some random new character. Makes no sense. And it's an ugly movie.

I remember liking Tank Girl though. Shrugs
post #1525 of 2722
So I heard that screenwriter Dennis Heaton had several meetings with Marvel last month. Today I see this on his Twitter towards Talalay:




The soup thickens...
post #1526 of 2722
Just IMDBd the guy. Am I missing something great? I mean, Fido was okay, I vaguely recall.
post #1527 of 2722
No.

But thank God that you don't have to write a script that turns into a great finished project to still get a job. Most lowly screenwriter's best material, the stuff they get jobs with, are unproduced scripts they've written. A lot of times when you're interviewed they may ask to see what else to have to get a better idea of your writing. He's a solid writer and with these scripts Marvel gives you a list of bullet points you have to hit. And you can be pretty creative within those lines.

I didn't see any complaints when Marvel hired the writer of AGENT CODY BANKS to write a film that went on to gross $450 million and usher multiple sequels.
post #1528 of 2722
Not exactly Ryan Coogler, I must say.
post #1529 of 2722
If you must...
post #1530 of 2722
Ohhh, this is nice. Gunn said a couple weeks ago that his biggest biff on GOTG was the antagonist (I admired the simplicity, but I see the point). He said that he not only killed that problem with the sequel, he "put it in a box, smashed it, tied it to a rocket and danced under the ashes."

Here's what he has devised for the sequel. I gotta say, it sounds pretty inventive and thought-provoking.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/we-know-where-things-start-to-go-wrong-in-guardians-in-1784658975
post #1531 of 2722
Can Marvel finally have a compelling villain?

Not gonna hold my breath just yet.
post #1532 of 2722
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Can Marvel finally have a compelling villain?

Not gonna hold my breath just yet.

 

Watch Jessica Jones.  Easily the best Marvel villain and not out of place in an "all-time" discussion.  

post #1533 of 2722

One thing that's probably noteworthy about Phase 3 compared to the other Marvel phases so far is how heavily it seems they're going in on female villains starting next year, compared to the previous phases. Thor: Ragnarok, Guardians 2, potentially Black Panther (depending if Nyong'o's character goes bad like she does in the comics) and Captain Marvel (just guessing, but Moonstone makes a lot of sense as the villain in that film). Probably another sign of the removal of Ike Perlmutter's influence.

post #1534 of 2722
So women will now have a chance to play bland villains in a marvel movie.

Progress!
post #1535 of 2722
It really is progress!

When everyone gets to be bland and tasteless! It means that there is something either awful and great on either side!

DYNAMIC RANGE!!!
post #1536 of 2722
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It really is progress!

When everyone gets to be bland and tasteless! It means that there is something either awful and great on either side!

DYNAMIC RANGE!!!

They're called boobs, Ed.

post #1537 of 2722

Jeremy Renner is probably joking here, but he claims he was so displeased with having to play a mind-controlled Hawkeye in The Avengers that he kept trying to improvise Hawkeye's death-by-heart-attack in the film.

 

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jeremy-renner-tried-kill-off-hawkeye-avengers-repeatedly

post #1538 of 2722
I just discovered there's a flash animation Black Panther show on Netflix and it's fucking nails.
post #1539 of 2722
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I just discovered there's a flash animation Black Panther show on Netflix and it's fucking nails.
Which version of the word nails do you mean? This yank had to Google it
post #1540 of 2722
In the Tom Hardy, try-hard sort of way. I was trying to say it's good.
post #1541 of 2722
Worth a shot. 9 minute episodes. Djimon Hounsou as T'Challa. Flashback with his dad kicking a young Steve Rogers' ass and beheading Nazis all day.
post #1542 of 2722

I think I watched the first Black Panther episode a while ago. Does it stay good?

 

I did dig the key-frame animation style. It reminded me of MTV's The Maxx from back in the day. That used actual drawings from the comics as key frames, I think. That's still the optimum way to do it, in my opinion. I hate all these cheapo DTV comic movies that completely change the art style, like All-Star Superman.

post #1543 of 2722

It stays good. Gives you a real sense of how modern Wakanda works. Also how American foreign policy screws up everything it touches.

post #1544 of 2722
It has begun:

post #1545 of 2722

SHE'S NOT EVEN BLONDE!

 

HOW CAN A WOMAN BE A CAPTAIN???

 

NOT MY MARVEL!!!

post #1546 of 2722
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

SHE'S NOT EVEN BLONDE!

 

HOW CAN A WOMAN BE A CAPTAIN???

 

NOT MY MARVEL!!!

Shut up.

post #1547 of 2722

Fun picture, but y'all know the actual movie costume is going to be segmented armor with muted colors, right?

 

(I'll never leave you again, MCU thread.)

post #1548 of 2722
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post

Shut up.

I actually did hear someone say the second part to me in person!

The 'women aren't captains' thing!

Shocked!

I WILL NOT SHUT UP!!
post #1549 of 2722
I didn't think this was from the film, if anyone was suggesting that...?

I just think it's cute.
post #1550 of 2722
Am I missing something? How are women not captains? I have friends in the military who would beg to differ.
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