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Oh yes, good. 

 

Also, I want to stress that although I would appreciate this opportunity to introduce the Fantastic Four in the '60s, or the original five X-Men in the present day, I say diversify the fuck out of the cast. I never saw the 2015 FF, but they had the right idea with Michael B. Jordan.

 

Have a black Reed Richards. Emphasize that Ben Grimm is Jewish. And with a modern X-Men, Hispanic Charles Xavier, Asian Warren Worthington, gay Bobby Drake, transgender Jean Grey (because she can read anyone's mind, her astral self doesn't have gender, etc.)

 

Splash that shit with color.

 

I SAID THIS ALREADY AND YOU DIDN'T LISTEN. 

 

jk luv u bort

post #3152 of 3374
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post
 

Oh yes, good. 

 

Also, I want to stress that although I would appreciate this opportunity to introduce the Fantastic Four in the '60s, or the original five X-Men in the present day, I say diversify the fuck out of the cast. I never saw the 2015 FF, but they had the right idea with Michael B. Jordan.

 

Have a black Reed Richards. Emphasize that Ben Grimm is Jewish. And with a modern X-Men, Hispanic Charles Xavier, Asian Warren Worthington, gay Bobby Drake, transgender Jean Grey (because she can read anyone's mind, her astral self doesn't have gender, etc.)

 

Splash that shit with color.


I don't see it happening.  At least not with the lead characters.  Marvel generally tends to skew "comic accurate" with the main players, but are more willing to play around with secondary characters (see: Heimdall, Baron Mordo, etc..).

 

But that's also why I think they'll go for more of a "greatest hits" lineup of X-Men rather than starting with purely the First Class.

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Worth noting that none of this has been approved yet. It's still got to be signed off on by regulators, and with a President who has a grudge against Bob Iger and a Democratic Party increasingly adverse to the idea of monopolies and corporate consolidation, who the fuck knows?

I'm sure Overlord has a gif of some attractive actress that sums this all up. 
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post #3154 of 3374

Between Cap, Thor, and Wonder Woman, haven't we seen plenty of Superhero fish out of water stories?

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Between Cap, Thor, and Wonder Woman, haven't we seen plenty of Superhero fish out of water stories?

 

[Insert bad Aquaman joke.]

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[Insert bad Aquaman joke.]

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Not sure if this has been suggested or not:

 

One of the better villains for the X-Men was The Brood.  These were essentially a take on the Xenomorphs, and they were pretty nasty.  With the addition of the ALIEN movies to the Disney IP storage, I could see doing The Brood storyline (with the Starjammers!) using the Xenomorphs instead.

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Not sure if this has been suggested or not:

One of the better villains for the X-Men was The Brood.  These were essentially a take on the Xenomorphs, and they were pretty nasty.  With the addition of the ALIEN movies to the Disney IP storage, I could see doing The Brood storyline (with the Starjammers!) using the Xenomorphs instead.

None of that will ever happen.
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So all those fanboys talking about putting the Fox fanfare back in front of Star Wars are going to be disappointed. 

 

But not those of us waiting for all obstacles to be removed for releasing an untainted OT!

 

#TeamBlu

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At the very least, the acquisition makes a Brood movie more likely since they don’t have to worry about Fox raising a stink about any similarity to the Xenonorphs even if they use the original Brood designs. They can also arrange to space out any movies to avoid too much overlap.
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Seems a bit harsh, we can't totally blame him for the MCU.

No, but I'm fine if Kingsman dies on the vine. 

Why? They're great action movies, and they're a lot of fun. I'd take the two Kingsman movies over the last two Star Wars movies and all the Marvel movies since 2015. Outside of that new Thor movie anyways, which I haven't seen and have no idea how good it actually is.
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I can't imagine a business model where people own, but leave the Alien and Predator franchises on the shelf forever.

I kind of could, when those people are Disney anyways. They've already got two big sci-fi series, and one of them they're seemingly going to put out every year for who knows how long. Also, the two biggest Alien movies are the last two, with the biggest Aliens movie not even being called Alien.

While the two series have pop culture cachet, the movies haven't been the biggest of preformers; especially the Predator movies.
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Sokovia already feels like it's supposed to be Latveria anyway. Doom takes over Latveria and starts invading former satellite countries, Soviet Union style.

Sokovia was too normal. Latveria is a modern version of Dracula's Transylvania.
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At the very least, the acquisition makes a Brood movie more likely since they don’t have to worry about Fox raising a stink about any similarity to the Xenonorphs even if they use the original Brood designs. They can also arrange to space out any movies to avoid too much overlap.


Being blunt, I think the Brood designs are gnarly enough that Disney would balk, not so much due to being too much like the Xenos, but just because they're too damn creepy for a PG-13 movie designed to sell a lot of toys to preteens.  Even in the comics they were pretty terrifying.  Pseudo-live action?  We'd be pushing an R rating with all the body horror and teeth.

 

Seriously the Brood are creepy as fuck.

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I'd take the two Kingsman movies over the last two Star Wars movies and all the Marvel movies since 2015. 

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Being blunt, I think the Brood designs are gnarly enough that Disney would balk, not so much due to being too much like the Xenos, but just because they're too damn creepy for a PG-13 movie designed to sell a lot of toys to preteens.  Even in the comics they were pretty terrifying.  Pseudo-live action?  We'd be pushing an R rating with all the body horror and teeth.

 

Seriously the Brood are creepy as fuck.

 

That was a great story arc, though.  

post #3166 of 3374

I know it will likely never happen because there's too much money in the movies, but at this point I'd suggest that Marvel just give Wolverine his own streaming series.  Sure he can show up in the movies too, but for the folks that like "Logan" (myself included) I think Wolverine could make for as good a Netflix/Disney Streaming series as any of the ones they've created so far.

 

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That was a great story arc, though.  


It was!  But creepy.

post #3167 of 3374
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No no no. All the complaints people are throwing around about mutants suddenly showing up (where have all the mutants been?!?!?!) also apply to Fantastic Four. They can't just have been around. If you do Galactus in the '60s, why is Thanos a big deal today?

Then you just don't do Galactus in the '60. They were a group of famous adventures, one day they mysteriously disappeared without a trace. Without Reed around Doom didn't see any reason to do Doom stuff. Seems pretty simple.
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I'd take the two Kingsman movies over the last two Star Wars movies and all the Marvel movies since 2015. 


Yeah, I know, they're vastly better than stuff like The Force Awakens, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Rogue One. Then again a movie wouldn't even necessary need to be good to be better than The Force Awakens, Rogue One, and Dr. Strange. Dr. Strange, probably the first just outright boring Marvel movie.
post #3169 of 3374

Doctor Strange?

 

Pretty good! 

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I know it will likely never happen because there's too much money in the movies, but at this point I'd suggest that Marvel just give Wolverine his own streaming series.  Sure he can show up in the movies too, but for the folks that like "Logan" (myself included) I think Wolverine could make for as good a Netflix/Disney Streaming series as any of the ones they've created so far.

I can't really see a good Wolverine thing being done on a tv budget, at least in live action.
post #3171 of 3374
Dr. Strange was okay. Forgettable but okay. Kingsman is what happens when you let Vaughn be Vaughn all through the running time - jokey, crass, and non stop garbage violence.

I just can’t stand Vaughn movies.
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I can't really see a good Wolverine thing being done on a tv budget, at least in live action.

 

I think that might work. His powers aren't really visual F/X heavy. If they get a good showrunner and writer's room, it could be really great.

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Stardust and First Class are both excellent. 

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And I effing love DR. STRANGE and consider it to be one of the best of the Marvel films.  So there.

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I can't really see a good Wolverine thing being done on a tv budget, at least in live action.


I think with a "premium" TV budget they could do it just fine.  Most of Wolverine's enemies in his solo titles aren't big FX heavy guys like Magneto or Apocalypse and the stories often aren't world-shaking affairs as opposed to more personal stuff.  It's usually some badass fighter character (mutant or human) backed with legions of faceless mooks for Wolverine to mow through.  You can save the "Big FX" stuff for when he crosses over to the movies.

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Stardust and First Class are both excellent. 


Second the love for Stardust.  It's a sorely underrated gem that's also great from a "before these folks were really famous" perspective for some of its' cast, with a side of "Hey, it's that guy/girl!."

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I SAID THIS ALREADY AND YOU DIDN'T LISTEN. 

 

jk luv u bort

Er sorry

 

Let us fuck?

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post #3179 of 3374
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Er sorry

 

Let us fuck?

 

yes

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Not sure if this has been suggested or not:

 

One of the better villains for the X-Men was The Brood.  These were essentially a take on the Xenomorphs, and they were pretty nasty.  With the addition of the ALIEN movies to the Disney IP storage, I could see doing The Brood storyline (with the Starjammers!) using the Xenomorphs instead.

 

Whenever I was sick as a little kid, my dad would buy me comics to read in bed. One such occurrence was either a Wolverine or X-Men comic, and not only was I little but it was in the middle of some Brood storyline so none of it made sense to me.

 

I don't think my memory of it was a fever dream, but I vividly remember Wolverine being out in some weird dimension or something, jumping from rocky platform to rocky platform, going on about how he had to find some girl. Then there was a weird sequence - I guess he was hallucinating - that he was actually part of the Brood, too.

 

I have no idea where I'm going with this, but every time someone brings up The Brood, I always immediately think of that weird fuckin' comic I read when I was little.

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Whenever I was sick as a little kid I would have horrible nightmares of Disney owning every major creative property.

Thankfully they were only fever dreams.
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We should rename this board "The Disneys" at this point.

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Whenever I was sick as a little kid I would have horrible nightmares of Disney owning every major creative property.

Thankfully they were only fever dreams.

 

"Even as a child, intellectual property was very important to me..."

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Not sure if this has been suggested or not:

 

One of the better villains for the X-Men was The Brood.  These were essentially a take on the Xenomorphs, and they were pretty nasty.  With the addition of the ALIEN movies to the Disney IP storage, I could see doing The Brood storyline (with the Starjammers!) using the Xenomorphs instead.

 

Whenever I was sick as a little kid, my dad would buy me comics to read in bed. One such occurrence was either a Wolverine or X-Men comic, and not only was I little but it was in the middle of some Brood storyline so none of it made sense to me.

 

I don't think my memory of it was a fever dream, but I vividly remember Wolverine being out in some weird dimension or something, jumping from rocky platform to rocky platform, going on about how he had to find some girl. Then there was a weird sequence - I guess he was hallucinating - that he was actually part of the Brood, too.

 

I have no idea where I'm going with this, but every time someone brings up The Brood, I always immediately think of that weird fuckin' comic I read when I was little.

 

I'm guessing this is the issue you're remembering?

 

 

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/9b/Uncanny_X-Men_Vol_1_234.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20091105231537

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Great...now I'm picturing a shirtless Dr. Doom wearing a mask.

 

You mean you didn't before?

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Deadpool remaining it’s kwn distinct franchise will likely be what happens.

It’s outside of the X-Men continuity anyways what with Colossus actually being Russian and the meta joke of Deadpool wearing a mask of Hugh Jackman’s face.
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Best Doctor Doom is recently re-handsomed Doctor Doom inexplicably drawn as Vincent Cassel:

 

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Dr. Strange was okay. Forgettable but okay. Kingsman is what happens when you let Vaughn be Vaughn all through the running time - jokey, crass, and non stop garbage violence.

I just can’t stand Vaughn movies.

You say these things like they're bad things and that just doesn't make any sense.

Dr. Strange was bland garbage. It takes things that are meant to be wondrous and makes them feel like the most boring blasé thing on the big screen in recent memory. And you know, maybe that could be interesting if the movie did something with it, but it doesn't. It's just a bunch of boring FX and a waste of a good actor as the least interesting villain to grace a Marvel movie. It's got a nice clever little bit at the end I guess, but then by that point who really gives a fuck if Dr. Strange finally managed to rise above total uninteresting mediocrity.

I watched this movie somewhat recently called Der Nachtmahr. It's got this really quick bit where some characters are watching tv and there's also a kaleidoscope city. The few seconds that movies showed it were more wondrous than any time Strange did the same thing. Now part of why it worked better there may have just been it looked vastly better from a design standpoint in The Nightmare, but part of it was probably also because that movie as things like mood and atmosphere.
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Do you need some time alone SimBOB? You seem distressed.

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Does SimBOB need a doctor? Or perhaps...a princess?

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James Gunn just tweeted "Just saw this guy pulling up next to my office."

 

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRBVaO9UIAAu4Y4.jpg

 

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/941346237801885696

 

That's everyone's favorite talking blob, Doop, a X-Men affiliated character. It seems we'll see him in GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3 now.

 

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Doop_(Earth-616)

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Best Doctor Doom is recently re-handsomed Doctor Doom inexplicably drawn as Vincent Cassel:

 

 

A villain who's a handsome middle-aged man in a business suit? Fuck, man, where do they get their ideas!?!?!?

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I can't really see a good Wolverine thing being done on a tv budget, at least in live action. It


I think with a "premium" TV budget they could do it just fine.  Most of Wolverine's enemies in his solo titles aren't big FX heavy guys like Magneto or Apocalypse and the stories often aren't world-shaking affairs as opposed to more personal stuff.  It's usually some badass fighter character (mutant or human) backed with legions of faceless mooks for Wolverine to mow through.  You can save the "Big FX" stuff for when he crosses over to the movies.

Marvel doesn't really seem to do premium tv budgets for any of their shows. Talk around The Inhumans before release made it sound like that was going to be the first show where they were really spending some money, but I didn't seen that money on the screen.

Wolverines solo series is full of big action set peices where he's doing things like fighting tons of ninjas. The big ninja village sequence at the end of The Wolverine is the kind of stuff in the solo series. They aren't don't stuff like that chase scene in Logan in a tv show version of Wolverine. They probably wouldn't be doing anything like the fight at the farm house, the one at the end of the movie, or the one right before that previously mentioned chase scene either. I don't know, I hear it'd be cool to have a Wolverine tv show like Logan and I just start thinking about all the stuff in Logan they probably couldn't do on tv without a lot of money.

You could probably actually do Magneto cheaper than Wolverine. Megento stuff wouldn't need to be time stuff like consuming fight choreography. They're doing Magneto powers in that Gifted tv shows on Fox fight now.
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A villain who's a handsome middle-aged man in a business suit? Fuck, man, where do they get their ideas!?!?!?

In defense of this storyline, it's been part of a redemption arc for Doom in which he, while Tony has been in a coma, actually took over as Iron Man.

 

But I'm sure, especially when a new Disney Fantastic Four movies come out, he'll revert back to his villainous ways eventually.

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Do you need some time alone SimBOB? You seem distressed.

I just don't see anything good about this news at all.

Also Dr. Strange is pretty terrible.
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I'm weirdly excited at the thought of Deadpool possibly showing up in Avengers: Rise Of The Skrull (or whatever the Avengers 4 movie is going to be called).

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A villain who's a handsome middle-aged man in a business suit? Fuck, man, where do they get their ideas!?!?!?




It's the House of Ideas, man.
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It would be hilarious if FF was Marvel's first bomb.
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I'd suggest that Marvel just give Wolverine his own streaming series.  

 

 

Why?  So they can stretch 4 episodes into 13 like with Punisher and have a bunch of people in rooms talking scenes that add nothing to the show?

 

No thanks.

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Why?  So they can stretch 4 episodes into 13 like with Punisher and have a bunch of people in rooms talking scenes that add nothing to the show?

 

No thanks.


Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what I meant.

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