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post #51 of 486

For me, it's really just that I'd rather put in more storage now and know it'll last me than finding out I need more space later and going through the extra fucking about of transferring data etc. You get about 410 GB of space on the stock HDD after the firmware, and with the titles requiring up to 50 gig to install I can't see it being too long before space management starts to get difficult. Sure, most games you can delete/reinstall as and when you need them, but there's also games like BF4 which I'll likely want to keep on there long-term. The big F2P stuff (Warframe, DCUO, Planetside 2 et al) are also likely to be long-term space gobblers, too. You could get away with just using the stock drive as long as you're disciplined with space, but for me that extra 500 gigs is enough breathing room to last me a good long while.

post #52 of 486
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Really stupid question: why do you need the hard drive? More game saves? Or do you want to use it as an entertainment center and store other media on it?

Hard drive space adds up as you play more games and the installs eat up more and more of what little storage there is, add on top of that all the game share video clips you may end up producing and sharing online. In my case, with the nine launch titles I grabbed, combined they eat up 293 gigs of hard drive space. Then you add on any/future dlc stuff that will eventually crop up. Of course most people aren't insane like me and juggle that many games, it is feasable to delete stuff off after you've finished them for people who are more conservative/frugal as gamers.
post #53 of 486

I mean shouldn't it be a given that it is HDMI?  If you still have a TV that doesn't have HDMI, shouldn't you spend the $400 on one of them and save up for the PS4?

post #54 of 486
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Originally Posted by MikeShaynePI View Post
 

I mean shouldn't it be a given that it is HDMI?  If you still have a TV that doesn't have HDMI, shouldn't you spend the $400 on one of them and save up for the PS4?

 

You'd be surprised how often I've been asked about Component/S-Video/AV connections in person. Same reason why it wasn't a given for MS that everyone has persistent, reliable, broadband internet.

post #55 of 486

http://www.amazon.com/D3-Digital-Converter-Optical-Toslink/dp/B005K2TXMO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385671689&sr=8-2&keywords=optical+to+rca

 

http://www.amazon.com/LP-2020A-Lepai-Tripath-Class-T-Amplifier/dp/B0049P6OTI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385671753&sr=8-1&keywords=stereo+amp

 

This is what I use to convert the digital optical to RCA (sometimes called Composite) audio - patch that into the Lepai amp and use some speakers from Goodwill and you're good to go.  These are rinky-dink components that work great, just don't move them around once they are in place and they should last a couple years.  You can generally find good Sony or Sharp shelf speakers at Goodwill in the 5 to 10 dollar range, and you can get speaker wire at Radio Shack.  Another nice thing is that you can patch ALL sound through the headphone jack in the Dual Shock 4.

 

I patch video through HDMI to DVI using a $5 cord - Amazon generally has 22"-24" Acer HDCP compliant monitors in the $100 - $120 range ... the color isn't as good as Sony or LG or Samsung, but they are good monitors.  If you're playing BF4 or COD or Madden, you want to avoid latency ... most HDTVs and digital sound systems are designed to deliver quality frequencies, but that means a quarter second delay (even in "game-mode"), whereas HD monitors for PC gaming and analogue stereo amps are designed to just shove out a good signal.  Pro gamers mostly use 22"-26" monitors, and you should notice a 10%-15% bump in your KDR pretty much immediately if you make the switch.

 

I like this set-up because I can have my desktop monitor to look at while things load, and it frees up the living room HDTV for family.  Sound-wise you don't really need to go digital if you get a $30 converter - Amazon even has a $16 converter, but the reviews are lower.  Screen wise you really do have to go digital, but like I said, it's better to get a $110 monitor than getting an off-brand HDTV.  You don't really want an HDTV that's less than $300, and even still a computer monitor will get you better results.

post #56 of 486

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0098Y77U0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

This is the monitor I have - it's HDCP compliant and has a 5ms delay.  To get lower than that you have to shell out a bit more.

post #57 of 486

And I'm away. Swapping the hard drive was dead easy, and right now I'm just having a play around with the UI and getting my bearings. Loving it so far, and by crimminy this controller's nice to use. My handle's Workyticket5096.

post #58 of 486

I've got some idiot questions. Well, not idiot, but probably easier than I'm making them out to be in my head. 

 

First off, there's no backward compatibility? So I won't be able to play my Mass Effect games again, unless I buy them all online, including DLC that I've already spent 50 bucks or so on? They've got some balls; there's no way they couldn't have made that work if they wanted. Shit. 

 

And is that somehow different for Diablo 3? That's a game I'll legitimately be likely to continue playing for the next year or so. Do I have to rebuy the game but the transfer saves over? That sounds dicey at best.

 

What about other stuff I've already bought on my PS3? Can I download the episodes of Wolf Among Us I've already bought, or even transfer my saves? Or maybe that Mass Effect DLC? Or is a PS4 more or less a clean break with whatever identity (and purchases) I've established on PS3, and I'd be best served to approach it that way?

post #59 of 486

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure everything you've boughten or done on the PS3 STAYS with the PS3. That's why I haven't sold or traded mine in yet. And the PS4 PSN Store barely has anything on it right now (such as The Wolf Among Us).

post #60 of 486
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
 

I've got some idiot questions. Well, not idiot, but probably easier than I'm making them out to be in my head. 

 

First off, there's no backward compatibility? So I won't be able to play my Mass Effect games again, unless I buy them all online, including DLC that I've already spent 50 bucks or so on? They've got some balls; there's no way they couldn't have made that work if they wanted. Shit. 

 

And is that somehow different for Diablo 3? That's a game I'll legitimately be likely to continue playing for the next year or so. Do I have to rebuy the game but the transfer saves over? That sounds dicey at best.

 

What about other stuff I've already bought on my PS3? Can I download the episodes of Wolf Among Us I've already bought, or even transfer my saves? Or maybe that Mass Effect DLC? Or is a PS4 more or less a clean break with whatever identity (and purchases) I've established on PS3, and I'd be best served to approach it that way?

 

Nope. No backward compatibility. Can't speak to Diablo, but there's supposedly some sort of cloud streaming fuckery happening next year, but I'll be pleasantly stunned if it includes every PS3 game.

 

And there's a far less pleasant twatstain in the comments on my article who doesn't deserve the courtesy, but reason why is pretty simple: they learned their lesson from last time. The PS3 was $100-$200 more than the 360 because they had to very literally build a PS2 into the PS3 for the launch systems, and that shit costs money and development time that's better spent on new games. Much as folks bitched when they removed it, fact of the matter is launching more expensive cost them sales, early. Folks want a cheaper system, that's your cost.

 

So,your PSN profile, your trophies, and any actual media you've bought from the PSN transfers. Some of the games are getting next gen updates, and the way Flower currently works--you own the game on PS3, you get it free on PS4--is apparently closer to the way they'd *like* to do it. The way Battlefield/COD work ($10 for the next gen upgrade) is more likely. But yeah. Don't sell your PS3.

post #61 of 486

What's baffling is the simple features that were in the PS3 that are completely vacant here.  It was nice when I could drag a video file to a jump drive and stick in one of the front USB slots or stream from my media drive when it would buffer enough.  Tried to do that today on the PS4, and nothing.  Same for music and photos (though I never really used the PS3 for that).  It's a strange option to remove, but I guess they only want us to view videos through "official" channels and that's lame.  Hope an update fixes that.

post #62 of 486

They have to pay licensing for the mp3 codec and H.264, etc.  It's a nickle here, a dime here, but it adds up.  That's why on PS3 there's the weird "Allow WMV playback" system option, because by having user opt-in Sony didn't have to ship with (or pay for) WMV capabilities.  They got rid of photo playback because even the ubiquitous JPEG is licensed by Asure Software, which has collected over $100 million in the last decade operating as an alleged patent troll.  KEEP YOUR PS3 HANDY, the PS4 is for games. games, games.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgent_Networks

post #63 of 486

Yeah, guess that's how I'll have to do it.  My last screen had 3 HDMI inputs, but the company replaced my LCD with an LED that was a bit nicer (and without the weird vertical line that would sometimes pop up on my LCD) and unfortunately one less HDMI port.  Since my cable uses one, I have to switch back and forth between PS3 and PS4.  It's a slight annoyance, but an annoyance none the less.  Anyone have any recommendations for a quality but inexpensive HDMI splitter?

post #64 of 486
post #65 of 486
Playstation Meow stream the classic hits to your cat or kittens.
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Today, at CES 2014 in Las Vegas, we announced that PlayStation Now (PS Now), our new streaming game service, will be available in the US this summer. With PlayStation Now, you will be able to stream popular hits and classic games from the PS3 library, first on PS4 and PS3 systems, followed by PS Vita.

In addition to PlayStation platforms, most 2014 US models of Sony’s BRAVIA TV lineup will support PS Now. Eventually the service will expand beyond PlayStation platforms and Sony devices, allowing you to stream PlayStation games across a broad range of Internet-connected devices.

Leveraging Gaikai’s advanced cloud-based technology, PlayStation Now will allow you to:

Play video games instantly across multiple devices, similar to the way you might stream TV, movies, and music.

Stream full games to all of your compatible PlayStation devices including PS4, PS3, and PlayStation Vita as well as non-PlayStation devices, beginning with 2014 BRAVIA TV models and expanding to numerous other Internet-connected devices.

Always play the most updated version of your game. With games hosted in the cloud, you can take your game with you – just log in with your Sony Entertainment Network account on a compatible device and your games and saved progress will be easily available.

We want to offer you choice when it comes to how you want to access content on PS Now, so you will be able to rent by title for specific games you are interested in. We’ll also offer a subscription that will enable you to explore a range of titles.

PS Now will begin a Beta program in the US at the end of January with an expected full roll-out in the US this summer. Be sure to check the PlayStation.Blog regularly for more updates on the PS Now service.

No mention of this service being a part of the PS+ program, seems like a no brainer to integrate it that way instead of having end users subscribe to two different programs for gaming content.
post #66 of 486

At the very least, I'd expect a discount for PS+ members. Just have this thing work OK with my not-exceptionally-speedy Aussie broadband, and put on The Last Of Us, and you have a customer.

post #67 of 486
Sounds like the PS4 is drastically beating XBoxOne with its sales.

http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/sony-takes-console-war-lead-more-4-million-184114796.html
post #68 of 486
I have the money ready to spend, but the only thing I feel like playing is Assassins Creed, which I can get already on ps3, plus all the other ps3 stuff still happening (South Park, some older games). What's the next few triple a titles that will tempt me?
post #69 of 486

There's InFamous: Second Son (Which looks fantastic) and MGS V: Ground Zeroes both coming in March. Also Drive club next month, which is looking pretty impressive as well.

post #70 of 486

I had Battlefield 4 on the PS3 and paid the $10 to upgrade for the PS4. It looked nice and played a bit harder but you have to put in the PS3 disk for it to work, which is a novel idea that I'm not a fan of. Even though I had it on PS3, I'm looking forward to Tomb Raider that's coming this month (I think). Was a big fan on the PS3 and I'm interested what they do to it for the PS4 as I hear they are going all out for the next gen systems. If you've never played it, it's well worth a look.

post #71 of 486
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Originally Posted by mongycore View Post

Playstation Meow stream the classic hits to your cat or kittens.
No mention of this service being a part of the PS+ program, seems like a no brainer to integrate it that way instead of having end users subscribe to two different programs for gaming content.

I sorta doubt this will be included with PS plus (unless they up the subscription cost), as this is sounding like its own separate thing.  Besides, why not get people to spend for online gaming "and" playing old games?

post #72 of 486
Yeah, more wishful thinking on my part. It'll be an additional service like Music Unlimited that they gave trial cards out for. Still have my PS3 hooked up so I don't need for it.

News dropped: Outlast will be out for PS4 as a PS+ download next month. That's pretty god damned awesome.
post #73 of 486

Suddenly I feel much, much better about passing up Outlast during the Steam sales. Nice.

post #74 of 486
Fucking jeebus PS+ brings down the thunder next month.

PS4: Outlast

PS3: Metro Last Light, Payday 2, and Remember Me

Vita: Streetfighter x Tekken, and Modnation Racers Road Trip

Sony are apparently handing out beta invite emails for the streaming service but no dice on this end.
post #75 of 486
The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Outlast lands on PS+ for the PS4 today. Metro Last Light on the PS3.
post #76 of 486

Yep, I'll be downloading this evening.

 

Playstation Plus has been kicking arse for months now.

 

Tomb Raider turned out to be a good play. It plays a little harder and the little tweaks to the gameplay are appreciated. The graphics are the goods as is the framerate. Not worth the price tag but I was desperate. I'm sure it'll be well discounted on plus in a couple of months.

 

Not to derail, but I have an XBone too and I was wondering if they have similar freebies and discounts for gold members? I've basically turned it on twice to play Dead Rising 3.

post #77 of 486
Games with Gold has been doing 360 era games since they started last year. Nothing has wowed me, in that I already played them, but it's something for lastgen xbox folk. Still not a compelling reason to bother with getting a gold membership after letting it lapse, nowhere near the greatness awaiting folk on Sony systems.
post #78 of 486
Outlast is now live. Everyone must be trying because the store will shoot out error/maintenance messages. It's currently downloading the main game plus a title update, yeah.
post #79 of 486

Yeah, I just downloaded Outlast.  I messed with it briefly; good looking game.  Probably going to give a run through on insane in the next few days.  

post #80 of 486

Oh yeah...  I'll definitely be queuing up Outlast later, and Metro too.  I actually got Outlast from steam in that last round of sales, and it looks great/runs really well on my laptop, but I'm all up for being able to play it on PS4.  Another stellar PS+ perk!  

post #81 of 486

Can't wait to get stuck into Outlast. We very nearly missed out on it as it took the Australian ratings board till late Monday to actually give it a rating, but thankfully this time we're spared the usual bullshit our government likes to pull on us.

post #82 of 486
It runs a treat...and looks pretty good too. Controls are aces. So far for a freebie I'm well happy.
post #83 of 486

Is there still a thread around here where we can post our usernames? I'm looking for friends with PS4s.

 

Workyticket, we should match up against each other in Marvel Pinball sometime. The Infinity Gauntlet and Fear Itself tables are spectacular.

post #84 of 486

I'd certainly be up for that. I've been mainly playing the PC version lately, but I don't see a problem with a bit of competition starting on the PS4 version. I'm not sure if I have those tables on there, actually. Will need to check.

 

PSN handles thread here.  Some of them might be getting quite old, though. I did try setting up an editable Google spreadsheet for people's gaming handles so we could have something with everything in one place and easy to update, but it never gained traction. Anyhow, I'm Workyticket5096 - sling me an invite, and you'll see a few Chewers on my friends list.

post #85 of 486

The fucking Pulse Elite (and regular Pulse) headphones work on the PS4 now.  YES!

post #86 of 486
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Originally Posted by Workyticket View Post
 

I'd certainly be up for that. I've been mainly playing the PC version lately, but I don't see a problem with a bit of competition starting on the PS4 version. I'm not sure if I have those tables on there, actually. Will need to check.

 

PSN handles thread here.  Some of them might be getting quite old, though. I did try setting up an editable Google spreadsheet for people's gaming handles so we could have something with everything in one place and easy to update, but it never gained traction. Anyhow, I'm Workyticket5096 - sling me an invite, and you'll see a few Chewers on my friends list.

 

I thought you had the Marvel tables just because your handle popped up on my friends leaderboard. Maybe you just played the demo.

 

Thanks for the link!

post #87 of 486

My XBL handle and PSN are in my sig and are both the same (rockbollocks) and me if you want, not that I do much though.

post #88 of 486

Was anybody else a victim of the goofy error seemingly caused by (?) the PS4 update yesterday?  I tried to download Outlast last night and got this message when trying to access the PS Store: "This service is not available in your country/region."

 

D'oh!  I'll try again tonight.

 

And in case anybody is looking for some, my PSN ID is Nanoblech.  Pretty sure I'm in that other thread, but it has been a while.

post #89 of 486
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Originally Posted by Rich Straceski View Post
 

Was anybody else a victim of the goofy error seemingly caused by (?) the PS4 update yesterday?  I tried to download Outlast last night and got this message when trying to access the PS Store: "This service is not available in your country/region."

 

D'oh!  I'll try again tonight.

 

And in case anybody is looking for some, my PSN ID is Nanoblech.  Pretty sure I'm in that other thread, but it has been a while.

I got it too. What was more frustrating was that I bought Zen Pinball DLC during the errorfest. It charged my card, but I couldn't download it.

 

All was resolved eventually, though.

post #90 of 486

Yeah, I figure it'll all work out soon enough.  I didn't let it get me all grumpy or anything.  I hit up the online store and snagged outlast that way.  So it'll be in my download list at least.  Hopefully it'll let me in after I get home later.

post #91 of 486

I got the same issue it reported that the store was under maintenance. I just ate dinner and came back an hour later.

 

Can I mention that the PS4 downloads files as fast as fuck, I know I have a 75Mb/s connection but it was maxing that out on the download of Outlast last night. I was getting about 7MB a sec, about 500MB in a minute. Anyhoo, it was super quick, maybe because they had a big update out last night too so they up the servers a bit?

 

Here's a video http://youtu.be/7OSEDuSOxKk​

 

If youtube hasn't removed the original audio you will hear my girlfriend fart then think about it and try and blame it on me.


Edited by Jonathan Parker - 2/5/14 at 1:26pm
post #92 of 486
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
 

 

I thought you had the Marvel tables just because your handle popped up on my friends leaderboard. Maybe you just played the demo.

 

Thanks for the link!

 

I think I might do have them. Might just have my tables mixed up, because I got the PS4 version right after the PC one and I know I bought a bunch of DLC off PSN. Will check tonight and jump in.

post #93 of 486
Why am I getting higher scores in Pinball Arcade than I ever do in Zen Pinball? Am I a wizard? I don't like the flippers mapped to the top bumper buttons on the dualshock, and I see no friend score comparison in the leaderboards either. I'm disappointed that the retail PB Arcade only includes season 1 with season 2 as impending dlc, boo to that shit. I'd rather pay full retail $60 for both seasons instead of getting milked like some fucking casual.

But who cares about that when this week is all about...

Free Outlast, thank god almighty free Outlast!
post #94 of 486
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Free Outlast, thank god almighty free Outlast!

 

God Almighty, I cannot play that game for more than 20 minutes at a time. I am a wuss.

post #95 of 486

Your not the only one. Leaning and looking round corners makes me as nervous as fuck. That mechanic is well done in the game. Also, I always close the doors after myself.

post #96 of 486

I was able to download Outlast yesterday after the initial store hiccup.  I started it up and it looks great!  Didn't play much though and basically just walked around outside the facility.  I was pressing buttons to get a feel for the controls and re-loaded some batteries before I needed to so I decided I wasn't going to bother this time.  NOT WASTING THEM LIKE THAT!  It was late-ish anyway so I just turned it off.  A previous go with the game on my laptop I played a little ways in, running around in some watery basement area getting scared and trying to avoid goons....  This game is surely not going to be good for me. 

post #97 of 486

Oh, PS4. Why must you be so impossible to buy?

 

:frown: 

post #98 of 486

I am very open to suggestions on what to play. All I've been doing on mine is watching Netflix and playing upgraded Zen Pinball tables I have on the PS3.

 

Not *exactly* buyer's remorse, but a good game or two would be nice.

post #99 of 486
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
 

I am very open to suggestions on what to play. All I've been doing on mine is watching Netflix and playing upgraded Zen Pinball tables I have on the PS3.

 

Not *exactly* buyer's remorse, but a good game or two would be nice.

 

BF4

Outlast

Strider

AC IV

Tomb Raider

Resogun

post #100 of 486
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Originally Posted by bendrix View Post
 

I am very open to suggestions on what to play. All I've been doing on mine is watching Netflix and playing upgraded Zen Pinball tables I have on the PS3.

 

Not *exactly* buyer's remorse, but a good game or two would be nice.

 

Well, hopefully you have Plus. Grab Outlast while it's free this month.

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