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Favorite Movie: Wes Craven

post #1 of 21
7/2/00 at 5:45am
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A Nightmare on Elm Street
The Hills Have Eyes
Swamp Thing
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Worst: Hills Have Eyes 2 or Scream 2
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post #2 of 21
7/2/00 at 12:37pm
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Scream
Wes Craven's New Nightmare
The Hills Have Eyes

The Worst:
Deadly Friend
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post #3 of 21
7/3/00 at 5:57am
Nightmare on elm street
Last house on the left
Hills have Eyes
Scream

Worst
shoker
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post #4 of 21
7/3/00 at 10:41am
Faves only:
A Nightmare on Elm St.
The Serpent and the Rainbow
New Nightmare
Swamp Thing
People Under the Stairs
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post #5 of 21
7/3/00 at 11:28am
People Under The Stairs
Nightmare On Elm Street
Scream
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post #6 of 21
7/7/00 at 11:55am
Serpent and the Rainbow.
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post #7 of 21
1/21/09 at 11:21am
so, tell me about 'The People under the stairs'. Any good?
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post #8 of 21
1/21/09 at 11:29am
I remember being creeped out by it when I first saw it in the theater when I was younger, but I honestly can't remember a thing about it at the moment.
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post #9 of 21
1/21/09 at 11:42am
I need to revisit 'The Serpent and the Rainbow'. I only saw it one time and I remember it being a pretty effective movie.
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post #10 of 21
1/21/09 at 11:49am
Swamp Thing.
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post #11 of 21
1/21/09 at 11:54am
always, always, always- The Hills Have Eyes.

Really want to see swamp thing- never have.
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post #12 of 21
1/21/09 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
I need to revisit 'The Serpent and the Rainbow'. I only saw it one time and I remember it being a pretty effective movie.
Revisit it. It's one creepy movie. Never thought I'd feel sorry for Bill Pullman's balls, but I do.
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post #13 of 21
1/21/09 at 12:07pm
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Originally Posted by Bluelouboyle View Post
Revisit it. It's one creepy movie. Never thought I'd feel sorry for Bill Pullman's balls, but I do.
Yeah, you never forget THAT scene.
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post #14 of 21
1/21/09 at 3:01pm
I maintain that his two Nightmare movies and Serpent remain his only "good" movies. Otherwise, I find him a spectacularly overrated genre director.

Caveat: I haven't seen Swamp Thing or Deadly Blessing.
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post #15 of 21
1/21/09 at 4:41pm
The Hills Have Eyes Part II is astonishingly bad. Craven might be overrated, but I never expected such shit from him. At least, he apologized for it.

Craven co-wrote the sequel to the remake, which is also horrible. At least, there's no dog flashback in this movie.

I've always sort of wondered what Cursed would have been like if not for all those problems.
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post #16 of 21
1/27/09 at 4:12am
Wow. This thread started in the year 2000. Then jumped straight to 2009.

DEADLY FRIEND is awesome. The basketball to the head makes it worth a watch alone. And Kristy Swanson as a killbot.
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post #17 of 21
1/27/09 at 5:18am
Top 5:

1. The Hills Have Eyes
2. A Nightmare on Elm Street
3. Scream
4. The Serpent and the Rainbow
5. Last House on the Left

Worst:
Cursed

Honorable "this movie is so fucking weird it requires viewing" mention:
People Under the Stairs

Serpent and the Rainbow is real good, until the magic disappearing reappearing voodoo priest shit starts happening in the last act. Then it falls to shit.

What hurts Wes Craven that he can never sustain quality over a whole movie. Scream has a great opening, and a great final act, but a draggy middle. NOES is really lame until Tina gets killed (which is early on, sure, but it's still a shitty opening). Only does The Hills Have Eyes really sustain itself the whole time. I thought that movie was a lot more nasty than the remake. The remake was more violent, but the unblinking style of the original really makes you feel dirty. I think it's the only real "masterpiece" that Craven ever made.
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post #18 of 21
1/27/09 at 6:11am
I like the end of Serpent and the Rainbow. I am aware of the way it tonally fucks the movie up a bit, but I do enjoy it in a Paul-Winfield-ripping-his-own-head-off kind of way. It's my fave Craven for sure.

People Under the Stairs is only good if you were a Twin Peaks fan. Then it was pretty kick ass.
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post #19 of 21
1/27/09 at 7:11am
I don't think he's a bad director, but he doesn't have any movies that I would call great or even very good. I enjoyed "The Serpent and the Rainbow" and "Elm Street" to some extent, but that was many many years ago.

From his recent output, "Red Eye" is a pretty effective thriller, at least as long as the story takes place on the plane. After that it goes off the rails.
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post #20 of 21
1/27/09 at 11:19am
What, no love for Music of the Heart?


I've always been a big fan of Serpent and the Rainbow. Has anyone read the book? I hear it's very good.

I also really want to like New Nightmare, though I think it never really lives up to the great idea. That's something that, just thinking off the top of my head, seems to be a problem with his movies for me. Often the concepts are really great while the movies are just good. Take A Nightmare on Elm Street, for example. As classic as that movie is, I've always found the original inspiration for the story--an article Craven read about Japanese students who had all died in their sleep after trying to stay awake, if I remember correctly--far more interesting and disturbing than Freddy Kreuger. Maybe that's just because I only saw the original Nightmare long after Krueger and the series had devolved into self-parody, thus dulling the force of the original for me.
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post #21 of 21
1/28/09 at 12:53am
I loved People Under The Stairs as a kid, but I saw it a few years back and it has not held up well at all. It's a complete relic of 90's cheese. Like if Craven decided to take the locale of New Jack City and turn it into "The Ghetto's Got Da Eyes" or something.

Ving Rhames' last words "Run FOOOOOOOOOOL!!!" had my friends and me laughing non-stop, and after we collected ourselves from that, we asked "Why did he call him 'fool' like that?"

My buddy who was actually paying attention: "Well, that's the character's name."

Pregnant pause between all of us.

We resume howling with huge gales of laughter.

What a horrible movie, and a waste of Everett McGill decked out in gimp gear. But that little character flourish did provide Joe Bob Briggs with the crack: "I wonder where McGill got his Leatherman outfit. Just to know where NOT to shop!"
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