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Originally Posted by Bitches Leave View Post

How's Schwarzenegger's relationship with Trump?

 

I don't think he has endorsed Trump to this point. I'd be pretty surprised if he did - Trump's nastiness is contrary to Arnold's own campaigns and policies. Arnold was only successful politically in California because he openly opposed the hate-based policies of the right wing of his own party.

 

I did find this:

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/2016-donald-trump-arnold-schwarzenegger-california-lessons-governor-gop-republican-apprentice-213944

 

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At the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York, when Schwarzenegger was the party’s brightest new star, he changed his headquarters from the Mandarin Oriental Hotel, at Trump’s request, to stay at the Trump Hotel just across Columbus Circle.

Schwarzenegger’s wife, Maria Shriver, asked, “Why are we in this dump?” 

 

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 “Trump comes in and Arnold just breaks his balls, and starts ripping him for his hair. Donald just looks at him, and Arnold says, ‘Tell me the truth. When it was sopping wet in the shower this morning, it fell all the way to the floor?’”
post #10352 of 22490
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Originally Posted by Bitches Leave View Post

How's Schwarzenegger's relationship with Trump?

Well, he was one of the celebs who appeared in James Cameron's climate change movie at the DNC. I can't imagine he wants to be cozy with Trump.
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Huh. Joe Scarborough grew some balls. 'It's time for the GOP to dump Trump'.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/08/09/the-gop-must-dump-trump/
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I agree with everything in that opinion piece. I also think Scarborough's an opportunistic piece of shit who's only a few steps down from Lumpy Hannity or Bill O'Reilly.

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Goddamn. That's some amazingly tone-deaf politicking. Stupid and arrogant.

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The more time passes, the more I feel like what I'll do in November will be a burden. Clinton is going to be slapping me in the face every step I stake towards the voting booth.
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It does nothing but deepen the perception/label of HRC being corrupt or in the pocket of corrupt powers. DWS is, rightly, political Kryptonite. WTF is HRC doing by grabbing on with both hands?

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

The more time passes, the more I feel like what I'll do in November will be a burden. Clinton is going to be slapping me in the face every step I stake towards the voting booth.


That's what amazes me about Trump: Republicans were able to make Hillary the second-worst possible candidate. Kasich would have beaten her by 15 states. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

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I get the unpopularity of DWS, but after reading that story, that merited a shrug from myself.  It's typical politics of supporting a local candidate.  The 'typical politics' part certainly annoys people (especially after this year's primaries), but compared to what the other side is offering up?  I don't care.  It could become an issue if the other side was running someone vaguely adult-like and not determined to become worse and worse with each passing week.

 

 

Edited because I stink at abbreviations.

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A trifle, but I laughed reading Deadspin's "Oral History Of Our 'Go Fuck Yourself' Tweet To Donald Trump"

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The New York Times editorial board issued a group opinion-piece loudly condemning Tump's bullshit yesterday:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/10/opinion/further-into-the-muck-with-mr-trump.htm

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Edited by Agentsands77 - 11/9/16 at 6:13am
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Originally Posted by Trav McGee View Post
 

A trifle, but I laughed reading Deadspin's "Oral History Of Our 'Go Fuck Yourself' Tweet To Donald Trump"

 

I LOLed, too. I'll say this: Trump's consistent in being the wronged 6 year old whenever someone calls him on his bullshit.

 

A buried treasure in that article: that it's clear that Trump's only source of news is the TV, underscoring that he doesn't read and essentially doesn't really think much.

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

Trump's consistent in being the wronged 6 year old whenever someone calls him on his bullshit.

"I met him, fifteen years ago; I was told there was nothing left; no reason, no conscience, no understanding; and even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this six-year-old child, with this blank, pale, emotionless face, and the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes. I spent eight years trying to reach him, and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized that what was living behind that boy's eyes was purely and simply... evil." 

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It's got some editorial content included, but it does showcase all the vile shit he and his supporters have said.

 

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Saw this online...

 

 

Trump voter: "I like Trump because he says exactly what he means."

 

Trump: 'Somebody shoot my opponent'

 

Trump voter: 'He didn't mean that'

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Originally Posted by Trav McGee View Post
 

A trifle, but I laughed reading Deadspin's "Oral History Of Our 'Go Fuck Yourself' Tweet To Donald Trump"

 

Also worth a laugh, because what else can you do with this fuckstick:  http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/donald-trump-is-a-frightened-coward-and-i-bet-100-000-1784774156

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This sort of feels like a best case scenario here, assuming Clinton wins.

If he loses hard, it will be his own doing. Oh, he'll spin it and bleat about the media but it'll be clear for all to see that he lost it himself, because he apparently couldn't help but fuck up every other day. All he had to do after getting the nomination was shut the fuck up and play the game, but he couldn't even manage that. I still don't think we've seen what Rock Bottom Trump looks like, but I feel as more people turn he will simply spiral and implode.

Quite looking forward to it.
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The Clinton campaign isn't exactly throwing millions at Utah right now, but they know there's blood in the water.  The ​Deseret News​ invited the candidates to talk, and Clinton answered:

 

http://beta.deseretnews.com/article/865659843/Exclusive-Hillary-Clinton-What-I-have-in-common-with-Utah-leaders-2-religious-freedom-and-the.html

 

The piece, I think, does a good job of pointing out what Mormons find so unappealing about Trump: his lax approach toward religious freedom and his hatred for immigration:

 

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Trump’s Muslim ban would undo centuries of American tradition and values. To this day, I wonder if he even understands the implications of his proposal. This policy would literally undo what made America great in the first place.

 

But you don’t have to take it from me. Listen to Mitt Romney, who said Trump “fired before aiming” when he decided a blanket religious ban was a solution to the threat of terrorism.

 

Listen to former Sen. Larry Pressler, who said Trump’s plan reminded him of when Missouri Gov. Lilburn Boggs singled out Mormons in his infamous extermination order of 1838.

 

Or listen to your governor, who saw Trump’s statement as a reminder of President Rutherford B. Hayes’ attempt to limit Mormon immigration to America in 1879.

 

Instead of giving into demagoguery, Gov. Gary Herbert is setting a compassionate example and welcoming Syrian refugees fleeing religious persecution and terrorism. Once they’ve gone through a rigorous screening process, he is opening your state’s doors to some of the most vulnerable people in the world.

 

Also, Bill Clinton will be campaigning in Utah soon.

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Joe Lieberman is supporting Clinton:

 

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290961-lieberman-supports-clinton-after-flirting-with-trump

 

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Lieberman told Fox Business he would vote for Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, in November.

 

He had left open the possibility of supporting Trump, the GOP nominee, in recent days. 

 

"I'm one of those people, and there are a lot of us, who don't quite feel comfortable either way yet," Lieberman said on Fox News last week. 

 

Not that anyone cares.

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I care!



Not really.
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Looks like the Washington Times (basically: "FOX News: The Newspaper") is running flat-out with Trump's lie about Clinton's e-mail server causing the death of that Iranian nuclear scientist:

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/9/shahram-amiri-the-first-casualty-of-hillary-clinto/

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Those fucking Moonies.

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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

It does nothing but deepen the perception/label of HRC being corrupt or in the pocket of corrupt powers. DWS is, rightly, political Kryptonite. WTF is HRC doing by grabbing on with both hands?

 

 

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Originally Posted by mondguy View Post
 

I get the unpopularity of DWS, but after reading that story, that merited a shrug from myself.  It's typical politics of supporting a local candidate.  The 'typical politics' part certainly annoys people (especially after this year's primaries), but compared to what the other side is offering up?  I don't care.  It could become an issue if the other side was running someone vaguely adult-like and not determined to become worse and worse with each passing week.

 

 

Edited because I stink at abbreviations.

 

I think folks may be underestimating the capacity for Debbie Wasserman-Schulz to cause even more damage for Hillary and the Democrats if she's not coddled, and based on the things I've heard and read about her and how her "resignation" was handled, she'd be exactly the type to go "scorched earth" if she felt like her back was against the wall.  By most indications she still didn't believe she'd done anything to warrant leaving her position and it took President Obama himself cajoling her to get her to resign.

 

Call me an apologist all folks want, but I have a sneaking suspicion that DWS "honorary chairwomanship" on Hillary's campaign and this endorsement are all part of the package deal to keep DWS from going off the reservation and really fucking things up for the Dems.  A balm to her wounded pride, in short.

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I thought this was good, specifically that second excerpt I included

 
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No trying-to-be objective and fair journalist, no citizen who cares about the country and its future can ignore what Donald Trump said today. When he suggested that "The Second Amendment

People" can stop Hillary Clinton he crossed a line with dangerous potential. By any objective analysis, this is a new low and unprecedented in the history of American presidential politics. This is no longer about policy, civility, decency or even temperament. This is a direct threat of violence against a political rival. It is not just against the norms of American politics, it raises a serious question of whether it is against the law. If any other citizen had said this about a Presidential candidate, would the Secret Service be investigating?

 

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Many have tried to do a side-shuffle and issue statements saying they strongly disagree with his rhetoric but still support the candidate. That is becoming woefully insufficient. The rhetoric is the candidate.
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Here's the thing: all of the tap dancing about what Trump actually meant in his message is completely negated by the reaction of the guy sitting behind him.  HE took it as a call to shoot her.  If even one person took it in that manner, then that's what the message 'meant' regardless of actual intent.

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In 2008, Obama had to apologize for shit other people said. In 2016, Trump apologists say what Trump actually meant.
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Alex Jones grossly distorting some comments made by Hillary back in 2008, claiming she "suggested [Obama's] assassination":

 

 

http://www.infowars.com/hillary-suggested-obama-assassination-yet-media-blasts-trump/

 

He even shows the entire clip of Hillary's remarks (running a whole 0:58), and NOWHERE does she even remotely suggest such a thing.

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Jim Jeffries on fans of Donald Trump:

 

"If you've ever said this sentence: 'I like him because he's a straight talker - you're as dumb as shit."

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Originally Posted by Leto II View Post
 

Alex Jones grossly distorting some comments made by Hillary back in 2008, claiming she "suggested [Obama's] assassination":

 

 

http://www.infowars.com/hillary-suggested-obama-assassination-yet-media-blasts-trump/

 

He even shows the entire clip of Hillary's remarks (running a whole 0:58), and NOWHERE does she even remotely suggest such a thing.

*chants to self* Stay away from the comments. Stay away from the comments. *reads comments* Fuck.

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That's cause its not a perception.  It's a reality

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In 2007, Trump was forced to face his own falsehoods. And he did, 30 times.

 

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In 2005, O’Brien, then a reporter for the New York Times, had published a book called “Trump Nation: The Art of Being the Donald.” In the book, O’Brien cited sources who questioned a claim at the bedrock of Trump’s identity — that his net worth was more than $5 billion. O’Brien said he had spoken to three sources that put the real figure between $150 million and $250 million.

 

Trump sued. He later told The Post that he intended to hurt O’Brien, whom he called a “lowlife sleazebag.”

 

“I didn’t read [the book], to be honest with you. . . . I never read it. I saw some of the things they said,” Trump said later. “I said: ‘Go sue him. It will cost him a lot of money.’ ”

 

By filing suit, Trump hadn’t just opened himself up to questioning — he had opened a door into the opaque and secretive company he ran.

 

There are many examples of his lies in the above article. Trump doesn't know anything but to be full shit...I can only imagine what a horrible child he must have been (still is?)

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I don't usually post here, but I'm schilling for an article I wrote about a recent Star Wars book. The headline is mostly clickbait-y, I don't really talk about Trump that much, but I am fairly certain the author did intend the parallels between Leia and Clinton.

 

Check it out...if you want to! https://litreactor.com/columns/darth-trump-and-princess-hillary-how-claudia-grays-star-wars-bloodline-mirrors-the-2016-elec

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Hillary's comments back then were stupid but not on the level of what Trump did.   Also, Republicans are still really bad at math. 1 + 1 does not equal 0.

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CNN is reporting that the Secret Service had "more than one" conversation with the Trump campaign about yesterday's comments.

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I love how he claimed that his net worth fluctuated depending on his feelings. I'm calling my bank tomorrow and telling them I feel like a million bucks.

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Senator Mark Kirk, by the way, said he's going to write in Collin Powell for president.  He won't support Clinton because of her support of the Iran deal.

 

You know what's funny?  Powell supports the deal too:

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/powell-defends-iranian-nuclear-deal-213375

 

Get back to the drawing board, Kirk.

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Originally Posted by Trav McGee View Post
 

Trump is currently in fourth place among Black voters.

Is that bad? I feel like that's bad.

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Hey, look, Trump added another adviser with Russian ties (not named Steve, weirdly enough) to his list:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/08/10/another-trump-adviser-with-deep-ties-to-russia/

 

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This week Donald Trump released a new roster of economic advisers, including a businessman with extensive investments in Russia who tried to get a Trump Tower built in Moscow. It’s the latest in a long list of relationships that give Trump a financial stake in warm U.S.-Russian relations.
 

Businessman and investor Howard Lorber already donated $100,000 to the Trump Victory fund, has been named as one of Trump’s “best friends” and even appeared once on “The Apprentice.” He is also president and chief executive of the Vector Group, a holding company that has various business interests in Russia. In 1996, Lorber brought Trump to Moscow to look for opportunities for Trump to lend his famous name to development projects there.

 

“Howard has major investments in Russia,” Trump told Russian politician Alexander Ivanovich Lebed after his trip to Moscow with Lorber, according to a 1997 profile of Trump in the New Yorker. “See, they don’t know you,” Trump told Lorber. “With all that investment, they don’t know you. Trump they know.”

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I'm astonished at the traction this whole "electoral fraud" bullshit has with the Breitbart-conservatives. It's the genius of the "liberal media" narrative -- there's no one to dispute such utter nonsense, because if anyone does, they're unwittingly just reinforcing the narrative that the Obama, Clinton, and the DNC want out there as part of their whole "take over the country"-conspiracy.

 

As long as everyone but FOX News and a handful of websites and AM radio stations are subverting their own viewership numbers and the profits of their publicly-traded parent companies to further a "liberal" agenda, they're completely insulated from any criticism. I know otherwise-rational, intelligent people who genuinely believe that Obama stole the 2012 election by having votes cast for him in the name of dead people in Ohio (the same plan so brilliantly executed by Sideshow Bob to get elected mayor on The Simpsons).

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The "Trump of the Philippines" called the US ambassador there a "gay son of a bitch."

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/10/politics/duterte-us-ambassador-comments/?sr=twCNN081016duterte-us-ambassador-comments0344PMStoryLink&linkId=27520433

 

How long before Trump says something like this?

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The birther question still looms amongst Republicans:

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-persistent-partisan-divide-over-birther-question-n627446

 

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Seventy-two percent of registered Republican voters still doubt President Obama's citizenship, according to a recent NBC News|SurveyMonkey poll conducted in late June and early July of more than 1,700 registered voters. And this skepticism even exists among Republicans high in political knowledge.

 

Almost three-quarters of Republicans still have their doubts.  Insane.

 

These people got the candidate they deserved (and wanted).

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Originally Posted by Leto II View Post
 

I know otherwise-rational, intelligent people who genuinely believe that Obama stole the 2012 election by having votes cast for him in the name of dead people in Ohio (the same plan so brilliantly executed by Sideshow Bob to get elected mayor on The Simpsons).

...and in the Chris Farley movie Black Sheep.

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Jesus, I'm gonna be so happy when he loses.  It will be the Schadenfreudiest  day of all time.  I will even be happier that he lost than I was when Obama won, and that was a considerable amount of happiness.  I am going to go at Trump supporters hard.  And drunk.  Drunk and hard.  Which is, I assume, the way they like it.

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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Is that bad? I feel like that's bad.

 

That's a matter of perspective.

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It's funny. Trump supporters are oblivious to the fact that their ignorance, racism, and predilection for violence is why they're unemployed or in whatever miserable situation they blame everyone but themselves for.
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