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post #51 of 71
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Did it ever occur to you that it's the content of what you post that might be the catalyst for the 'attacks'?

 

Of course it does Captain Obvious.

 

What's really funny is that where I'm from and on local message boards I'm usually considered a far Liberal. Then I come here and most hate me because I'm some conservative devil.

 

Being in the middle is sometimes exhausting.

post #52 of 71
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I work for the government, we are ALWAYS looking to expand resources and power. It's job security.

 

Physician, heal thyself.

 

On a more serious note, mostly because enforcing the utterly vague indecency standards promulgated by the Supreme Court after interpreting the Federal Communications Act is a pain in the ass.  The FCC gets hauled to court all the time because the standard can only be applied unevenly.  It costs money, time and effort to defend those lawsuits.

post #53 of 71
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Of course it does Captain Obvious.

 

What's really funny is that where I'm from and on local message boards I'm usually considered a far Liberal. Then I come here and most hate me because I'm some conservative devil.

 

Being in the middle is sometimes exhausting.


Just because you are considered 'left' on those local message boards you mentioned does not necessarily mean that you are in the actual political 'middle'.

post #54 of 71

Seriously?  Are we going to have a liberal dick-measuring contest now or something?

 

 

 

post #55 of 71
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Seriously?  Are we going to have a liberal dick-measuring contest now or something?

 

Not at all....just a call for a bit of self reflection. 

Some of the hardcore conservatives (authoritarians) I've met are/were unwilling to indulge in introspective thought.

 

Case in point- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3BPK8ahNPo

post #56 of 71
My liberal dick is 3"...




...from the floor.
post #57 of 71
What's weird is Bradito lost his legs and was left with these 3 inch nubs.
post #58 of 71

I was going to go for a Bradito is '...more Frodo than Aragorn' joke, but that works.

 

: )

post #59 of 71
:'(

That's the last time I steal a joke from Ron Jeremy.
Edited by Bradito - 2/5/15 at 10:57am
post #60 of 71
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Originally Posted by WendellEverett View Post

 

 

On Friday the county level data-services where I live were "slow" while I was trying to update public info, then the fucking bank had the same issues while I'm trying to deposit checks at a local branch.  There's no way that the Feds will roll over on this, because the telecorps already try and leverage the strangle-hold that they have on society - they've soured the voting base, POTOS, and the Justice Department.  They are going to get hit hard, and soon.

 

I know it's tacky to quote yourself, but since my last post the FCC Chair got in step with POTUS, DOJ and "smrt" voters - 

http://consumerist.com/2015/02/04/fcc-chair-confirms-title-ii-approach-to-net-neutrality-att-already-warming-up-for-lawsuit/

 

I'd love to see ATT fight back against the Feds, because that worked so great when they had their assess busted up in '82.  It's all a dog and pony show anyways - the GOP knows that stopping Obamacare, Marriage Equality, and Net Neutrality is bad for business in the long-haul, so they talk a good game, do a few block plays, and then let the competition win on purpose - if they were serious they would offer serious counter-proposals instead of just blow-hard speeches and obstruction.  The Netflix paid-prioritization was too high-profile for the Feds to let slide - if the ISPs extorted Netflix, they could extort anyone for anything - including politicians.  They over-played their hand, and now it's getting slapped.

post #61 of 71

This thread needs a new title because Net Neutrality is ALIVE AND KICKING!

 

Something else the FCC did today?  

 

FCC Overturns State Laws that Protect ISPs from Local Competition.  Municipal wifi could be just around the corner - finally! (if your municipality does not have wifi or if it does, could now expand.  

 

Here's a quote from the FCC Chairman, Tom Wheeler:

 

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This proposal has been described by one opponent as, quote, a secret plan to regulate the Internet. Nonsense. This is no more a plan to regulate the Internet than the First Amendment is a plan to regulate free speech. They both stand for the same concepts: openness, expression, and an absence of gate keepers telling people what they can do, where they can go, and what they can think. 
post #62 of 71

This is good news....so, I wonder who will be against this decision?

 

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"Consumers, investment in state-of-the-art networks, and job creation all stand to lose from today’s heavy-handed decision."

WASHINGTON, DC – Republican Members of the Energy and Commerce Committee’s Subcommittee on Communications and Technology today responded to the FCC’s vote in favor of utility-style regulation of the Internet:

 

“Resorting to Great Depression-era rules will trigger a stampede to the courts, unleashing years of lawsuits and uncertainty at a time when U.S. leadership and the Internet economy are more important than ever. We believe the Internet has worked well under current rules, but we were – and we remain – willing to come to the table with legislation to answer the calls for legally sustainable consumer protections for the free and open Internet that has fostered a generation of innovation, economic growth, and global empowerment.

 

“Republicans, Democrats, consumer groups, and investors all agree that we need sustainable protections to preserve the Internet as we know it. A 3-2 party-line vote is not the policy consensus this issue deserves. Consumers, investment in state-of-the-art networks, and job creation all stand to lose from today’s heavy-handed decision. And transparency has all but evaporated during this broken process. Once these rules finally emerge from the shadows, it will become clear that the FCC’s action today does not end the debate.”

 

The above statement is attributable to every Republican member of the Communications and Technology Subcommittee.

 

<then there's a list of all the GOP members that oppose the decision>

 

post #63 of 71

I feel like you could switch out anything relating to 'FCC decision' with 'shit Roosevelt did during the 30s' and you'd have pretty much the same thing.

 

Or replace it with 'anything that helps out the little guy' for the past 80 years.

post #64 of 71

I have an Etsy shop and I follow Etsy on Facebook.  Etsy, naturally, is celebrating this decision and they posted a link to one of the articles. What happens?  Loons.  Loons come crying out, "government regulation is bad!"  And someone posts, "I just opened up my Etsy shop and this decision worries me..."

 

Are you fucking kidding me?

 

Artists - we're celebrating! Because so many of us are small business owners and our main outreach is the net with our portfolios/websites, online shops, and networking.  But yes, there are a few nutcases.  One told me to (on one of my posts on Facebook), "read up on this" better because this is obviously "more" Obama and government over reach.  That more regulations are around the corner and that there's no way this would "pass the judicial system.."

 

I replied, " 'read up on it'?  Oh, okay, I will - I'll read up on it on the now fully open and free from corporate telecoms middling, internet..."

post #65 of 71

Wow, the town of Wilson NC was one of the places that stood up to the state law ... and I thought nothing good came out of Wilson NC

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post #67 of 71

Yeah, at this point we're pretty fucked.

It's up to the courts most likely.
post #68 of 71
I guess I’ll get a small amount of satisfaction when Trump supporters find out Brietbart and InfoWars are no longer included in their base internet package, and they have to pay an additional 15 bucks a month for the Russian Puppet Propaganda Package.
post #69 of 71
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I guess I’ll get a small amount of satisfaction when Trump supporters find out Brietbart and InfoWars are no longer included in their base internet package, and they have to pay an additional 15 bucks a month for the Russian Puppet Propaganda Package.

 

You kidding....in DJT's FCC those along with Fox will be the only channels allowed a broadcast license.

post #70 of 71
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I guess I’ll get a small amount of satisfaction when Trump supporters find out Brietbart and InfoWars are no longer included in their base internet package, and they have to pay an additional 15 bucks a month for the Russian Puppet Propaganda Package.

This is the worst effect (to me) of Trump and his administration + a GOP congress:

They've introduced so many incentives for citizens to become self-serving, non-community minded assholes Just. Like. Them.

Given the odds they're stacking against the low-income and minority/non-rural folks out there, and the complete gutting of the social safety nets + public schooling system they've undertaken, I admit to having the protective parent instinct to just say "fine, fuck you, pay me" and get as independently wealthy as possible so at least MY kid(s) will be able to go to a decent school and me and my wife can retire comfortably.

Which is NOT the solution. What's the point of MY kids being OK financially if the world they inhabit is full of shit racist people, corporate nation-states, a destroyed environment, and about 3 species of animal left?

But if I can feel those self-preservation impulses to just amass wealth and fend for ourselves, I can only imagine the systemic effect on the country's fabric these policies could have over a generation.
post #71 of 71

I think our only hope at this point is that Ajit Pai gets accused of sexual assault.

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