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post #601 of 884
I just wish it hadn't taken so damn long.

I turned to my gf during the episode and said, "Now that Jesse isn't acting like a sad fucking sack this is actually great."
Edited by RodofWar - 8/2/16 at 3:42pm
post #602 of 884

Gave it rewatch earlier and realized I'd missed someone shouting "What did you do to the dinosaurs?" at 'God'. Gotta admit that I raised a smile when I heard that. 

post #603 of 884
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Gave it rewatch earlier and realized I'd missed someone shouting "What did you do to the dinosaurs?" at 'God'. Gotta admit that I raised a smile when I heard that. 

Actually I think it was with dinosaurs. As in where are you hiding them.

post #604 of 884

Yeah, I think you're right. Actually, that's much funnier. 

post #605 of 884
I confess that by the end of it, I quite liked Donnie, his wife, Emily, and Sheriff Root so while I'm glad the gang are hitting the road at long last, I was sad to see the others blown the fuck up. I'm also in that small group of people who believes the 'Salvation' arc did serve an important purpose in the overall narrative so losing Odin so soon too kinda worries me somewhat.

Still, for all its faults, I am glad this show exists and is continuing.
post #606 of 884

That moment at the end where they're in the car and finally ready to hit the road, then pause while the Stones are playing. Cassidy from the backseat: "What the hell are we waiting for?" So good.

 

Doing the first season this way may have been how they felt they had to get people on board who didn't know the source material. It was cool to see Desmin Borges as Carlos, who plays the sad-sack roommate on YOU'RE THE WORST. I had no idea he was going to be on the show and died laughing when it cut to him tied up in episode 9.

 

There was enough good stuff throughout the season that I'm excited for year 2. Between this and HAP & LEONARD coming back, we've got a nice little Texas noir TV sub-genre happening.

post #607 of 884
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There was enough good stuff throughout the season that I'm excited for year 2. Between this and HAP & LEONARD coming back, we've got a nice little Texas noir TV sub-genre happening.

 

Thanks for the reminder. I need to get on that show.

post #608 of 884

I kinda wonder if Cassidy's "I can get you Angel hands" dialogue was meant to echo Goodman's "You want a toe?  I can get you a toe, dude." dialogue from Lebowski so similarly.

post #609 of 884

I'm pretty certain it was.

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post #611 of 884
I finally caught up, after this languished on my DVR most of the summer, and I think I can easily call this the biggest disappointment of the year for me, thus far. I was really with it for a while, but aside from Cassidy, nothing here suggested to me they have any idea what they're doing with the source material. They can throw some very good sequences together every now and then, usually an action scene, but they spent an entire season on the first half of the first trade paperback, material you'd read in your first sitting, no problem, and made it ten hours long. And added pretty much nothing at all!

What are we supposed to think about any of these characters? I loved Jesse and Tulip in the books, and here they're mopey, entitled whiners who take no personal responsibility for anything. Eugene is more likable than he ever was in the book, but then we find out he shot a girl in the face with a shotgun because she wouldn't date him, and he's not in jail for some reason? Emily is nicer than anyone, until she feeds the Mayor to Cassidy out of no where, no one ever mentions it, and she dies off screen? And Quincannon is basically right about God...and that's it with his story, I guess?

Fuck this show. I'll be watching next year.
post #612 of 884

First teaser for S2:

 

 

 

Looks like we're indeed picking up where the comic book actually began, with some alterations.

post #613 of 884

The first season didn't blow me away but there was a lot of potential there. I truly hope they capitalize on it for this season. 

post #614 of 884

A lot of shows stumble in season 1 and come out swinging for season 2.  I have a hunch that S2 is gonna kick ass, especially now that they have the structure of the comic book to draw from rather than just winging it.

post #615 of 884

Season 1 was a puzzling approach and could've been covered in half the episodes but it's still a fun show. Looking forward to seeing the actual comic on screen.

post #616 of 884
The first season started well for me but most of my interest deflated halfway. I kept on because it wasn't terrible and I dug the comics. I'm cautiously optimistic for
more after the finale.
post #617 of 884

The first season was weird, in that the blasphemous and profane elements should have been more exciting, but the entire world was so heightened that they didn't really land with any force.  It didn't help that the conflict and potential stakes surrounding the angles and the Voice were not at all clear, which just added to the sense that nothing was real or mattered.

post #618 of 884
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The first season was weird, in that the blasphemous and profane elements should have been more exciting, but the entire world was so heightened that they didn't really land with any force.  It didn't help that the conflict and potential stakes surrounding the angles and the Voice were not at all clear, which just added to the sense that nothing was real or mattered.

Yeah that whole sequence where they were attacking the church.....ugh. Especially when one of the people in the town mattered at all except arseface and our main 3.

post #619 of 884

 

So much for globalisation :(

 

edit: found it on yatube.  FAR too much "Come on Eileen".  There's really no excuse for that.

post #620 of 884

It's a bit sad that the second season of my favourite graphic novel is coming out and I'm not particularly jazzed.

post #621 of 884

I've not watched any episodes and kind of forgot that this was a series despite anticipating/dreading the arrival of an adaptation for well over a decade. 

post #622 of 884
Watch the first! If only for Negga's amazing introduction and downright powerful monologue/performance. She's hypnotic, lovely, and messed-up as fuck.

Shite season, though. Truly.
post #623 of 884
I've mentioned it earlier in the thread. I've never read the comics and I absolutely loved this show.

I'm very excited for more.
post #624 of 884
I'll be honest and say that I don't think whatshisname looks right as Jesse and that's part of the reason I've not bothered - that and what should be an HBO show taking a bad detour and getting stranded on AMC.
post #625 of 884

Dominic Whathisname is not great as Jesse, but Negga is really great and so is Gilgun as Cassidy.  The show around them doesn't work at all, but if you're a fan of the characters, there should be a good amoutn to appreciate.

post #626 of 884
I don't think he's bad in the show. I just don't think the character Jesse in the show feels anything like the comic.
post #627 of 884
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I don't think he's bad in the show. I just don't think the character Jesse in the show feels anything like the comic.

 



He's not really supposed to be. What I did like about this first season (aside from the fact that it's really, really pretty to look at) is that it brings up a what if scenario: What if that Church hadn't immediately blown up like it did in the comics. What if instead of immediately trying to run away from being a preacher, Jesse actually tried to use The Voice to help the church. Honestly, I think both scenarios are pretty interesting.

I still believe that the reason why the 1st season is so different from the comics is because:

1. No one thought this was going to get a second season.
2. They didn't have the budget to include even half of the crazy shit that happens in the books.
post #628 of 884
Thread Starter 
Season 1 gave me Jackie Earle Hailey cradling a meat child.

I'll always appreciate that.
post #629 of 884
Dominic Cooper just isn't lead actor material. He drags the show down greatly. I'll also be the odd one out and say that I'm not particularly impressed with Negga either. There's something a bit play-acty about her performance.
post #630 of 884
I'll admit that I've liked Cooper since The Devil's Double so I'm biased toward him, but I'm not as down on his performance as some here are. I'll admit that it's not the Jesse from the comic book but I don't have any issues with the interpretation. 
 
Any problems I have with Tulip don't come from Negga's performance but rather the writing. When it was done well (i.e the pilot), she shined. Having a character who feels like she should always be moving settle down in one place for the rest of the season was a big mistake.
 
Gilgun is perfect.  
post #631 of 884
Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing they nailed was Cassidy. I'm kind of on the fence about giving this another shot.
post #632 of 884

You should give it another shot. As Judas said, sometimes a show ill take a season to find its footing.

post #633 of 884
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Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, the only thing they nailed was Cassidy. I'm kind of on the fence about giving this another shot.

 

While he's great, he also needs to slow down and enunciate when he talks.  I got really tired of having to rewind because I couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying.  Mumbling in a thick Irish brogue does not work for an American audience.

post #634 of 884
It's thick, but I understood him fine.
post #635 of 884

Yeah, I kinda gave up on this a couple of episodes before the end of the first season. It, literally, cannot live up to source material based on the channel that it's on. That's not saying it would have been better written on Starz or HBO but it would have, at least, the opportunity to close to the source material as possible. We have American Gods coming on Starz in not many weeks and that looks aces above Preacher. I read both and I enjoy Preacher more on paper but right now AG looks to have it in the bag (based on one trailer). 

post #636 of 884

Some Preacher news. New characters cast.

 

 

Pip Torrens is Herr Starr

 

  

 

Julie Ann Emery is Featherstone

 

 

  

 

 

Malcolm Barrett is Hoover

  

 

 

Noah Taylor has also been cast.

post #637 of 884

Oh hell yes.  I hope they go all in with the Herr Star/Grail stuff.  What are the odds that they'll have all of the many perils of Herr Starr make it to the tv screen?

post #638 of 884
Guy looks like Herr Starr. Seems fine.

Win me over, Preacher! There's too much good TV out there to put up with your bullshit indefinitely, but I'd very much like to be convinced.
post #639 of 884

Right there with you. I WANT to like this show. Stop creating characters who aren't interesting and wasting my time with them before killing them all.

post #640 of 884

As this one hasn't been posted yet:

 

post #641 of 884

New trailer:

 

post #642 of 884

Herr Starr -

post #643 of 884

Sounds like they've hopefully solved a lot of the problems that were evident with the first season.

 

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..as the first three episodes unfold, it becomes increasingly clear that the showrunners, along with executive producer Sam Catlin, are treating them as a second chance to make a first impression. This time, they’re more efficient with introductions, showing off Tulip’s coolness under pressure, Jesse’s arrogance, and Cassidy’s literal blood thirst in the first 10 minutes or so. Even as bodies and vehicles are shattered by a plodding stranger’s (Graham McTavish) bullets, the trio’s dynamic is established and their mission made clear.

The first third of the season is practically a reset, which won’t prove to be a problem for Preacher readers, but there’s also some exposition to help the novices play catch-up. It’s integrated much more seamlessly, though, wafting in and out of what would just be a Technicolored dream on a different kind of show. But here, the avenging saints and wayward divine beings are grounded in the same reality as gun nuts, gas station attendants, and one really thirsty hotel guest. Despite setting an undead 19th-century cowboy on Jesse’s trail, Preacher never dips into the gritty pitfalls that tend to trip up comic book movie directors. There are very real consequences to everything, but the tone and cast remain so exuberant that it never comes close to being dour.

For better or worse, Annville remains on their minds, but still only gets a cursory treatment from the script. It’s too soon to tell if there’s anything left to that story, but Preacher seems ready to do its penitence and move on. If you’re still annoyed with the first season’s finale, season two works hard to earn your forgiveness, touching on the comics’ New Orleans arc, as well as presenting the first proper look at the Grail.

 

We shall see!

post #644 of 884
That sounds nice. The previews certainly look more propulsive than anything in the first season.
post #645 of 884

I missed the first season entirely, but I've been loving the new trailers for this, so if that Saxon quote is accurate maybe I can jump in and not feel too lost.

post #646 of 884
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I missed the first season entirely, but I've been loving the new trailers for this, so if that Saxon quote is accurate maybe I can jump in and not feel too lost.

 

There's some good stuff to be mined from S1, Jacob.  I'd consider giving it a spin.

post #647 of 884

If anything it's worth it for the hotel room fight.

 

I can't wait for the second season. I never read the comics but thought the first season was promising. 

post #648 of 884
I'm glad I didn't read the comics because I loved the first season.

I feel bad for you guys who expected something else.

It's a bit on the slow side but I found it compelling enough.
post #649 of 884

I'm pre-emptively calling HORSESHIT! on all of these reviews for s2 harping on about how it feels "like a course correction and soft re-introduction to the characters" after "the disappointing first season".  The showrunners have been saying since they first started filming that the first season was going to act as a prequel and comic fans are going to have to be patient as season 2 is where things will start looking familiar to them.  They've never hid that fact from the start and must have repeated it so many times it would have surely driven them insane.

Yet fans and critcis did nothing but harp on and on about how the show was nothing like the comic they know and love, taking every opportunity they could to dump on it due to it not meeting their 20 years' worth of expectations instead of judging it on it's own merits.  It's like they refused to listen to reason.

And now that the show runners have gotten to the point that they stressed about for the past year and a half, all of those same fuckwits are doing what's typical of people these days - they can't just say "I was wrong and they were right - here's where it starts looking like what I wanted all along".  No, they have to come up with some of this horseshit about how it feels like the showrunners "leanred from their mistakes and listened to the criticism last year" and blah blah fucking blah.

 

Fucking assholes, all of them.

post #650 of 884

Patience truly is a lost virtue in today's world when it comes to entertainment.

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