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I looked for an appropriate threat to talk about the brave and really beautiful speech Ellen Page gave at the Human Rights Campaign's Time to Thrive conference, but couldn't find one so I started this thread.  Even though it shouldn't matter for an actor or anyone in the public eye or in sports (like Michael Sam) to come out, it is a risk because there is still so much ignorance and bigotry out there.  This is really an amazing speech.  If you haven't seen or read it yet, you should. 

 

 

 

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It's a lovely speech. When I first saw the headlines, a very flippant "Well, yeah." crossed my mind, but that's the wrong response. We have a number of LGBT people out there with strong careers and so on, but they're the exception and come with a handful of caveats. I have noticed that Page's career has clearly slowed down quite a bit and since she hasn't top-lined any huge bombs, I imagine that a good chunk of that has to do with the fact that studios are less willing to put her in certain things lest she conforms to a more conventional image. Whether the reticence on their part is directly connected to her being gay is debatable (I don't know if Page's personal life was as an open secret in Hollywood as I assumed it to be or not), but that doesn't diminish the extra bit of pressure she clearly felt.  

 

If Page is an out and out lesbian, she's already less shielded than people like Anna Paquin and Amber Heard, who came out while they were either with male partners or about to enter into a relationship with one, and for that reason I automatically deem Page's decision here to be much bolder. I'm a realist so I don't see it immediately turning the tide, but I definitely commend her for it.

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This is why I still like Anne Rice even though she hasn't written a good book since Memnoch The Devil

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2anne-rice-unloads-on-anti-gay-facebook-commenters/news/2014/02/16/83270#.UwFvMc4r2uO

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A wake-up call to Conservatives in Arizona and beyond: Push and get pushed back.

 

Ariz. Senator Comes Out as Gay

 

http://www.advocate.com/politics/2014/03/06/watch-ariz-senator-comes-out-gay

 

I have many issues with what Obama has and has not done, but I'm loving the unintended side effect of his presidency driving Conservatives out of their fucking minds. It used to frighten me, but now it's just kind of glorious watching these dinosaurs walk straight into a tar pit of their own making.

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Hodor is Hodor.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/kristian-nairn-gay_n_4942743.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

 

As absurd as it is, I'll go ahead and cop to the fact that my very first thought about this was prurient and ridiculous: "I wonder if he's a bottom?"

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The more people that come out, the more mundane the whole thing becomes.

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Hodor is Hodor.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/11/kristian-nairn-gay_n_4942743.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

 

As absurd as it is, I'll go ahead and cop to the fact that my very first thought about this was prurient and ridiculous: "I wonder if he's a bottom?"

 

A man his size, I feel sorry for whoever is.

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"He's got giant's blood in him, or I'm the Queen."

 

Good for him. They probably need to create a new category of bear just for him though, like a Megalobear or some shit.

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Figured this'd be as good a place to post:

 

Fred Phelps is dead.

 

He leaves behind a legacy of hate and fear and cruelty. Let us take note of the man's passing and strike him from the books. Speak of him only in the whispered tales around campfires, a moral lesson to remind our children to do better than that corrupted being.

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This is great...
http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2015/01/23/watch-allyson-robinson-slams-pentagons-lack-leadership-trans-militar





This, not so much....


Vagina Monologues Playwright Responds After Show Canceled for Not Being Trans-Inclusive
Playwright Eve Ensler has responded to the Mount Holyoke College theater board's claim that her popular show is 'reductionist and exclusive.'



Mount Holyoke College, a liberal arts school for women in South Hadley, Mass., has canceled a scheduled performance of Eve Ensler's The Vagina Monologues because it is not inclusive of transgender women, Campus Reform reports.

Ensler's popular play, which premiered in 1996, has been translated into 48 languages and performed in 140 countries. Based on interviews conducted with more than 200 women, it includes monologues about sex, menstruation, rape, birth, and more.

"At its core, the show offers an extremely narrow perspective on on what it means to be a woman," wrote Erin Murphy, a representative of Mount Holyoke's student-run theater board, in an email. "Gender is a wide and varied experience, one that cannot simply be reduced to biological or anatomical distinctions, and many of us who have participated in the show have grown increasingly uncomfortable presenting material that is inherently reductionist and exclusive."

Mount Holyoke, which began admitting trans women and trans men last year, will instead stage trans-inclusive monologues written by students. The school's annual Valentine's Day performance is a fundraiser for the V-Day campaign, a nonprofit, founded by Ensler, committed to ending violence against women.

"The Vagina Monologues never intended to be a play about what it means to be a woman," Ensler told Time in response to the show's cancellation. "It is and always has been a play about what it means to have a vagina. In the play, I never defined a woman as a person with a vagina."

Ensler also explained that a group of trans women staged the play in 2004, which inspired a new trans-centric monologue, They Beat the Girl Out of My Boy, that has since been made available for inclusion in performances. "Offering the monologue to our activists around the world was a deliberate decision on my part to encourage communities to address the needs and realities of the transgender community," she continued. "Trans women and trans men have been welcome to perform in The Vagina Monologues throughout its history."

Despite her disappointment, the playwright remains optimistic in the face of controversy. "I stand in solidarity with students at Mount Holyoke in their fight against transphobia," she said. "I believe this is a beautiful opportunity for us to hear each other's stories in this ever-evolving journey toward liberation."
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Hey!! I'm the only one here who's allow to post things about Brazil!!!

Meanwhile, you stay classy, Arizona:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/03/conservative-christian-pastor-openly-calls-for-executing-all-gay-people-by-christmas-day-video/

How does anyone get away with saying this in a western country in 2015?
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I can't be the only one who enjoys the Westboro Church looking dumber than usual.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/05/26/westboro-baptist-church-in-gay-marriage-flag-fail_n_7441310.html

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In other news, like neo-cons and Tea Party dipshits, we continue to learn the wrong lessons from the opposition and are headlong down a path to destroy ourselves in the pursuit of ideological purity...http://m.newnownext.com/scotish-pride-event-bans-drag-queens-to-avoid-offending-trans-people/07/2015/

This is complete horseshit and shows an ignorance and/or total absence of respect for the history of gay rights. This kind of shit is why I bristled when I first ran across the prefix "cis", because I fucking knew what was happening, man.

They've since caved and rescinded the ban, as they should have, but the fact that it happened in the first place puts the virus running through progressive circles directly under the microscope.
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Didn't know whether to place this in Shameless Self Promotion or here but I, along with other wedding professionals in the Dallas area, got together to gift a deserving LGBT couple a wedding free of charge.   Just thought it would be a nice change of pace to the stories you usually hear about the wedding industry and the LGBT community.  I'm the videographer :)

 

 

http://jwaylon.com/2015/07/north-texas-vendors-old-red-museum-give-lesbian-couple-complimentary-dream-wedding/

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I wanted to ask a question to all chewers LGBT or straight. What do you think of the word 'Queer'?

In the same way I'll never know how it feels to be black and hear/use the word [redacted] I'll never understand how a gay person feels about the word 'Queer'. I understand it's been adopted by the community to rob it of its power but I still feel a pang of discomfort when I see it. Perhaps I'm just older than I thought but I still remember when it was nothing but a slur and I still find it unpleasant.
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I wanted to ask a question to all chewers LGBT or straight. What do you think of the word 'Queer'?

In the same way I'll never know how it feels to be black and hear/use the word [redacted] I'll never understand how a gay person feels about the word 'Queer'. I understand it's been adopted by the community to rob it of its power but I still feel a pang of discomfort when I see it. Perhaps I'm just older than I thought but I still remember when it was nothing but a slur and I still find it unpleasant.
I feel about it the same way that I feel about the N-word. I understand that the word is used in the gay community fairly freely, just as the N-word is used freely among the African American community....but that doesn't make it ok for ME to use it so I don't touch it with a ten-foot pole. I just don't want to offend anyone and besides...I could use Gay, and get the same point across and not take a chance on hurting any feelings..
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/04/ellen-page-and-ian-daniel-talk-confronting-a-gay-killing-hitman-on-gaycation.html

 

When I saw this headline, I thought it was in reference to a "political humor skit" that I missed, but what Page actually did was seek out and interview a psychopath. Like a real-life "Killer Joe" in Brazil.

 

The default response for many would be to commend her for her bravery and whatnot, but I have to admit - and this may very well be my own sense of self-preservation speaking - I think it is a terrible idea to tell a hit-man who "specializes" in killing gay people, that you are gay, just to see what his response would be. She even warned the crew ahead of time that she was going to do this, admitting that she didn't know if the man would respond violently. That's mainly my issue here. She can do whatever she pleases, but if she didn't have any idea how he would respond, and if they didn't have adequate protection in the event that the situation went sideways, she is essentially gambling with the lives of her crew.

 

Yes, these people are adults, so their decisions are their decisions, but I'm still troubled by that. I don't know. I'm Mr. Cautious. I believe in plenty, but I have never put myself or anyone I care about in the direct line of fire of anything if I could help it.

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“I feel a personal obligation and a social responsibility,” Page said in her speech, tearing up. “I also do it selfishly, because I’m tired of hiding. And I’m tired of lying by omission. I suffered for years because I was scared to be out. My spirit suffered, my mental health suffered, and my relationships suffered.

I was tempted to read Page's stunt as the act of an absurdly comfortable, entitled person, until I read the article. Now, I wish the show was on a channel that I get. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for the collected first season on disc or something, because this sounds really compelling.
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It's astonishing how quickly Vice has come around on the whole journalistic legitimacy thing. I mean, they still publish cocaine tourism articles and believe-it-if-you-like sex worker memoirs, but there,s some important work being done as well.
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I saw an article in the periphery about a "Lilly Wachowski" and wondered if it was a typo or misdated story regarding Lana Wachowski. Then I began to wonder if there was a third Wachowski sibling, a younger, not famous sister I hadn't heard of who was now in the news for some reason. None of this is accurate.

 

Lana is Lana, and there is no Andy, because now we have Lilly....

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/mar/09/matrix-director-lilly-wachowski-comes-out-as-a-transgender-woman

post #22 of 210

We were talking about this in the Sense8 thread (great show).

What puts a sour note on her coming out was she was kind of forced to because fucks at The Daily Mail showed up at her doorstep to confront her about it under the guise of an "exclusive interview".

Fuck those assholes but I'm happy for her and wish her nothing but the best.

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In reading about this recent news, I also found out about something last year when there was some controversy about a speech Lana Wachowski made that seemed to scapegoat black people for hindering progress for the LGBT community.

I was actually surprised that the outrage there passed me by last year.
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Well, it's hard to keep track of what you should be outraged about on a day to day basis. There's just so much!

 

Plus, irony, thy name is Wachowski. All the Red Pill MRAs...this is kinda awkward, isn't it? The filmmakers of your movie of choice kinda are now women.

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Mark Kirk is going to have one of the tougher Senate races this year, so this endorsement is mightily disappointing:

 

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/21/1504481/-Shameful-Gay-rights-group-endorses-Republican-Mark-Kirk-over-Democrat-Tammy-Duckworth

 

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HRC wants to preserve its "bipartisan" cred so that it can keep donations flowing from corporations and wealthy gay Republicans. That's an incredibly callow approach to politics, but one the organization has practiced for years (HRC infamously endorsed Republican Sen. Al D'Amato over Chuck Schumer in 1998).

 

With this year being a presidential election (possibly with Trump heading the Republican ticket) and Illinois immediately having buyer's remorse on Gov. Rauner, I think Tammy Duckworth should win this seat back for the Democrats, but endorsements like that for Republicans certainly don't help.

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Christ, this bill is freaking awful. Kudos to the NFL as well for saying no Super Bowl in Georgia if this monstrosity succeeds.

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It's stuff like this, I hope, that shows that the world at large is generally moving in the right direction. Disney has no qualms about alienating Homophobes. This isn't a meek "We will be disappointed..." It's a "You can fuck right off!"
post #29 of 210
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Mark Kirk is going to have one of the tougher Senate races this year, so this endorsement is mightily disappointing:

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/21/1504481/-Shameful-Gay-rights-group-endorses-Republican-Mark-Kirk-over-Democrat-Tammy-Duckworth


With this year being a presidential election (possibly with Trump heading the Republican ticket) and Illinois immediately having buyer's remorse on Gov. Rauner, I think Tammy Duckworth should win this seat back for the Democrats, but endorsements like that for Republicans certainly don't help.

Yeah, this is the same group that backed Clinton over Sanders. Clinton who voted for the war in Iraq, and until 2013 didn't think gay people had a right to get married. They're as brave at sticking to their principles as the candidates they back. But hey, for enough money, wouldn't we all sell out?
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Christ, this bill is freaking awful. Kudos to the NFL as well for saying no Super Bowl in Georgia if this monstrosity succeeds.

 

North Carolina has a bill too:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-carolina-lgbt-discrimination_us_56f2b7dbe4b0c3ef5217676c

 

Charlotte voted to ban discrimination against people based on their sexuality or gender identity, and conservative state lawmakers freaked out. 

 

They used this social issue to stick it to minimum wage workers and LBGT veterans as well:

 

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In addition to blocking anti-discrimination protections across the state and imposing standards for single-sex bathrooms, the bill also prevents cities and counties from raising the minimum wage. 
 
The bill would also end anti-discrimination protections for veterans. At least two North Carolina jurisdictions — Greensboro and Orange County — have anti-discrimination ordinances in place banning bias based on military or veteran status. Under the new measure, cities and counties would be prohibited from passing protections for veterans or service members. 
 
Stephen Peters, the Human Rights Campaign’s national press secretary and a Marine Corps veteran, criticized this consequence of the bill. 
 
“Thousands of LGBT veterans have fought to secure our freedom, only to have the rug pulled out from under them by the North Carolina legislature’s willingness to wipe protections for local veterans off the books,” he said in a statement. “Gov. McCrory must take a stand for fairness and equality for all and veto any bill that would increase the risk of discrimination.”
 
During debate, state Rep. Grier Martin (D) introduced an amendment that would add protections for veteran status, sexual orientation and gender identity to the bill. Rep. Paul Stam (R), a veteran, argued he doesn’t think it’s necessary to protect veterans from discrimination — despite reports to the contrary. The assembly voted to table the amendment.  
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​There's North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory's statement on why he signed the bill.

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So, the most basic level of transphobic panic.
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What really sucks is that trans people are a minority within a minority. And the christian bullies who slobber over legislation like this don't fear any retaliation from them. Really glad that it's at least getting the attention of the media and big companies are fighting back. I think trans people still have many hard years ahead of them as a group, but within the greatest umbrella of the lgbt community they have a lot of support, and at least they're not alone.

 

These fucking politicians though. Sooner or later, there will come a reckoning.

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Mississippi is getting ready to heavily discriminate against the LGBT community as well:

 

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/mississippi-scheduled-for-final-vote-on-anti-lgbt-religious#.mxPrNAkOV6

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The federal government is reviewing the North Carolina law to see if funding should be cut:

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/02/us/politics/north-carolina-anti-discrimination-law-obama-federal-funds.html?_r=0&mtrref=query.nytimes.com&gwh=09F6C634ED35991CC20DDC8D4AA3AAF5&gwt=pay

 

Also, Pay Pal is no longer planning a new facility there:

 

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/05/technology/paypal-north-carolina-lgbt/index.html

 

Rachel Maddow mentioned tonight that the federal government is also looking into Mississippi's law.

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A rundown of much of the comedy inspired by North Carolina's bathroom frenzy:

 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article70905457.html

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Raleigh is already feeling the financial burden of North Carolina's bathroom bill:

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/tourism-board-raleigh-set-to-lose-24-million-thanks-to-gops-anti-trans-bathroom-law/

 

The bleeding, though, has only just begun:

 

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The Raleigh Visitors Bureau warned that the local economy could lose out on $24 million in economic benefits if the law is not repealed. According to the report, 16 other groups were considering relocating their events outside the state.
 
The city’s biggest loss could be a four-year contract for an undisclosed sports tournament that would have brought 51,000 people and $4.5 million in benefits to the area each year.
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...and the backtracking begins.
 

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NC Guv Issues Executive Order Clarifying Anti-LGBT Law

 

North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) on Tuesday issued an executive order clarifying portions of a sweeping anti-gay law. The order also extended rights to certain state employees and sought legislative changes to the provision that impacts employment discrimination.

 

"After listening to people’s feedback for the past several weeks on this issue, I have come to the conclusion that there is a great deal of misinformation, misinterpretation, confusion, a lot of passion and frankly, selective outrage and hypocrisy, especially against the great state of North Carolina," he said in a statement accompanying the order. "Based upon this feedback, I am taking action to affirm and improve the state’s commitment to privacy and equality."

 

McCrory's executive order leaves the law unchanged, but he has expanded rights for state employees and asked for a change to a provision in the law unrelated to LGBT rights.

 

<cont>

 

yeah, you know what McCrory...fuck you. Unless you issue an EO to repeal this bullshit law...just, fuck you.

post #43 of 210

North Carolinian users of XHamster will have to use many of the other porn sites out there.  IP addresses from the state will no longer be able to use the service because of the law:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/protest-anit-lgbt-laws-porn-191227511.html

 

McCrory probably won't entirely cave because it's an election year and he won't want to complete deflate the base, but Tennessee (which, I think, is the next state to bring up a bill like this) might be sweating it out right now.

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Will country stars speak out against the recent discriminatory bills?

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/its-scary-chely-wright-says-country-singers-support-lgbt-rights-but-theyre-afraid-to-speak-up/

 

I wish I could remember the name, but I read about a country band a year ago that wrote a song many had misconstrued as a love story between two women.  The usually-popular band wasn't getting traction with the song and a scared record company had the lead singer record an introduction that explained the song's true intentions.  In a climate like that, I can't imagine many country musicians speaking out.

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Stories like this one are precisely why I was happy to see John Bel Edwards grab the governorship in Louisiana, despite the fact that Republicans control everything else (granted, Louisiana governors tend to have more power than those in other states):

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominicholden/democratic-louisiana-governor-rescinds-republican-predecesso#.mlP50lvAOG

 

Louisiana is in a world of hurt right now, but this made me happy.

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Will country stars speak out against the recent discriminatory bills?

 

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/its-scary-chely-wright-says-country-singers-support-lgbt-rights-but-theyre-afraid-to-speak-up/

 

I wish I could remember the name, but I read about a country band a year ago that wrote a song many had misconstrued as a love story between two women.  The usually-popular band wasn't getting traction with the song and a scared record company had the lead singer record an introduction that explained the song's true intentions.  In a climate like that, I can't imagine many country musicians speaking out.


They probably don't want to face the backlash The Dixie Chicks got for speaking out against Bush.

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More than 60 Missouri businesses are against a "religious liberty" bill in the state that has passed the Senate there and is currently being discussed in the House.  If the bill passes the House, voters would decide later in the year:

 

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/13/1514785/-60-Missouri-corporations-line-up-against-state-s-anti-LGBT-religious-liberty-bill

 

It didn't get much attention, but Democrats in the state filibustered the bill for 39 hours straight about a month ago:

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/12/1499785/-View-from-the-left-Missouri-s-stand-for-equality

 

Republicans were eventually able to stop the filibuster, though, and it's now up to Monsanto and the Chamber of Commerce to keep the state from being another to whine about gay marriage being the law of the land.

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The mayor of Portland, Oregon is refusing to step foot in Mississippi for the commissioning of the ​USS Portland,​ so the ship will be brought to him:

 

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/4/12/1514199/-Portland-s-mayor-refuses-to-go-to-Mississippi-U-S-Navy-reroutes-to-Oregon-for-ship-s-commissioning

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I certainly hope that no one is actually surprised by this news...
 

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CBS News investigation finds Kim Davis’ lawyer behind anti-LGBT bills in 20 states

 

The lawyer who represented Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis after she refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses told CBS News that his group was also behind anti-LGBT legislation being pushed in at least 20 states.

 

After governors in North Carolina and Mississippi recently signed laws limiting the rights of LGBT people, CBS News began investigating why so many anti-LGBT bills were cropping up in state legislatures around the country.

 

The network found that the conservative group Liberty Counsel had placed lawyers in all 50 states to draft legislation and advise lawmakers on how to rein in the rights of LGBT people in response to a Supreme Court ruling which legalized same-sex marriage in 2015.

 

CBS determined that bills tied to Liberty Counsel have been filed in at least 20 states so far.

 

<cont>

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The 4th U.S. Court of Appeals overturned a Virginia school board's bathroom policy in favor of a transgendered student:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/court-overturns-virginia-schools-transgender-bathroom-rule-38513822

 

The court also covers North Carolina, and here's Gov. McCrory on the decision, saying he'll abide by the ruling but will be talking with lawyers:

 

https://www.facebook.com/nccapitol/videos/752052601598613/

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