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post #101 of 2984

He's got to want the help more than to need it, believe me. And when you're an arrogant multi-millionaire hot shot, you've got a long way to fall before hitting that point.

 

I don't wish any ill on the man, but he's literally got a world of options. Judging by the way he's carried himself up to this point, I question whether or not he thinks he needs to change.

post #102 of 2984
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Hey. Once Arians' offense started clicking, Palmer looked pretty damned good, and his chemistry with our receiver package shot up like a rocket. The second half of the season, we looked like a completely different team from the one playing in the first half. We earned that win, and we did it in the impenetrable C-Link, with all of Seattle's fans screaming like two year olds.

 

We have an excellent coaching staff made of smart guys who know how to utilize the strengths of our players. Which, again, is why I see Dansby failing in Cleveland. I think we're going to surprise the hell out of the league this season.



I'd agree with this, Arizona became a scary team last year. I'm a Seattle fan, and it didn't take long after the Super Bowl to start getting real nervous about next season. I don't see SF dropping much (if at all), and Arizona and St Louis only look to be getting better.

post #103 of 2984

Cautious optimism around the Jags with the free agent signings (and the blatant steal of a sixth-rounder from the Niners for Gabbert) especially with the pair of d-lineman from Seattle. Now everyone is just waiting on pins and needles to see what pick 1.03 brings. I want Manziel, Clowney or a trade down.

post #104 of 2984

Bridgewater's Pro Day apparently didn't go so well. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped. Meanwhile, Blake Bortles is having a Pro Day . . . but the media isn't allowed. Weird.

 

More and more, it seems like Clowney will be the #1 pick.

post #105 of 2984
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Bridgewater's Pro Day apparently didn't go so well. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped. Meanwhile, Blake Bortles is having a Pro Day . . . but the media isn't allowed. Weird.

 

More and more, it seems like Clowney will be the #1 pick.

 

I saw highlights. He ran a slow 40, but he's not known for running, anyway. But he threw some pretty terrible passes in drills.

post #106 of 2984
There are no sure thing first round QB's so you have to take Clowney.

And did I see Brandon Weeden barely get over 2 million for 2 years. Very nice check for holding a clipboard.
post #107 of 2984

The Steelers continue to let all WR and RB depth loose and also to miss on signing new depth. Hurray--a whole new batch of offensive players to try and blend in with Haley and Roethlisberger. Which means the offense will probably stink again until 6-8 weeks into the season. And also makes me wonder if Haley is keeping the talent away or if something else is going on.

post #108 of 2984

What is Carolina's plan at WR?  Smith, LaFell, and Ginn gone.  Good bye to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd leading WR.

 

Every year a few teams miss the playoffs who made it the year before.  The Panthers will be one of those teams.

post #109 of 2984

Now looks like Cam Newton had surgery and is out 4 months.So, it looks like it will be a while longer before Cam and whoever the hell he's going to throw to are on the same page.

 

The Eagles are reportedly shopping DeSean Jackson now as well.

post #110 of 2984

If the Steelers could stand spending money on a FA, I would love for them to get Jackson. But it won't happen. When the big FA WR visit is from Lance Moore...meh. And speaking of the Panthers too, Cotchery is talking to them now.

 

And apparently CBS is letting Marino and Shannon Sharpe go from their NFL shows. With Sharper having lots of court dates, NFL Network needs some new guys.

post #111 of 2984

Antonio Cromartie finally signed a "prove it" contract with the Cardinals, for one year. If his knee holds up, it'll be damn nice to have a solid CB#2 again.

 

Aside from a Tight End, our needs are pretty much taken care of. It'll be a fun draft in May.

post #112 of 2984
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Aside from a Tight End, our needs are pretty much taken care of. It'll be a fun draft in May.

 

Same with the Bucs.  We don't have a crying need anywhere on the team.  Places we could improve, sure, but nothing we have to commit to at #7.  So we can take the best player available, or trade back for more picks.  Or since we brought in a tank load of free agents, maybe we're thinking of trying to move up.

post #113 of 2984

Devin Hester to the Falcons. Interesting pickup, especially since Mike Smith is smart enough not to try and use him on offense and just let him be the best PR/KR in the league.

post #114 of 2984
Shame he'll probably break the return record there but he just cost too much. Just hope he doesn't break it against the Bears.

TB doesn't have holes? They need a QB as McCown is a stopgap. They have a RB coming off a knee injury and only 1 legit WR who is aging and won't be there when you are ready to contend.. Your defense will be aces but I've seen this story for 9 years. Don't mean to piss in your Cheerois I'm just interested to see if Lovie can learn from his numerous mistakes.
post #115 of 2984
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Antonio Cromartie finally signed a "prove it" contract with the Cardinals, for one year. If his knee holds up, it'll be damn nice to have a solid CB#2 again.

 

Aside from a Tight End, our needs are pretty much taken care of. It'll be a fun draft in May.

 

 

Great signing. Keim and Bidwell the Younger are running the team very well. Who knows what will happen next year, but I have no complaints with this new regime.  I think the Cardinals are in a good place for to compete for the division this year. If they can stay healthy and key people come back from injuries...two big ifs, admittedly. 

post #116 of 2984
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Great signing. Keim and Bidwell the Younger are running the team very well. Who knows what will happen next year, but I have no complaints with this new regime.  I think the Cardinals are in a good place for to compete for the division this year. If they can stay healthy and key people come back from injuries...two big ifs, admittedly. 

 

One of my biggest fears last season was that we were going to get Patrick Peterson hurt, having him play multiple roles on both sides of the ball. Having Tyrann Mathieu returning kicks is what got him injured, and Ted Ginn is a good, reliable kick returner and a much better alternative. Seems like we've done a lot to better solidify what's working, and fill in the spaces that need dedicated players, so we don't have our stars getting worn out.

 

At least that's what I hope one of the focuses is. Keeping our players healthy, and avoiding spreading them too thin.

post #117 of 2984
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Devin Hester to the Falcons. Interesting pickup, especially since Mike Smith is smart enough not to try and use him on offense and just let him be the best PR/KR in the league.
That may not be the case. From a local radio station web page
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In the tweet, Atlanta referred to Hester as a returner and a receiver, which is interesting. Hester didn’t play receiver for the Bears last season. But with that designation and the signing of a three-year contract in an era when returners aren’t as valued because of an increase in touchbacks, it would seem to be an indication that Atlanta wants to use Hester in its offense too.
Hester can't run routes so it'll be interesting to see how they use him.


Jared Allen to the Seahawks. Should be a great line.
post #118 of 2984
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TB doesn't have holes? They need a QB as McCown is a stopgap. They have a RB coming off a knee injury and only 1 legit WR who is aging and won't be there when you are ready to contend.. Your defense will be aces but I've seen this story for 9 years. Don't mean to piss in your Cheerois I'm just interested to see if Lovie can learn from his numerous mistakes.

 

I'm not saying they have zero holes, but they don't have anything that's an immediate, must-draft-to-solve problem.  McCown's an upgrade over Glennon, and who knows?  Maybe Trestman turned the lights on and he's got a Rich Gannon-esque run in him.  If there's a QB they like at 7, sure, take him, but they're not locked into doing so.

post #119 of 2984

Schaub traded to the QB mess that is Oakland for a 6th rounder.

post #120 of 2984
And the other potential trade partner was the Browns. he was going to hell no matter what
post #121 of 2984
Jets drop Sanchez, add Vick.
post #122 of 2984
Mangy, Hey...Cheer Up, Cleveland can add...Mark "The Sanchize" Sanchez as QB, now that he will...Jet out of...New York. NY does have one...VICKtory, with the addition of the...DOGged Bird Of Prey...Ex...Falcon and Eagle Michael Vick.
post #123 of 2984

My poor Oakland-native, Raiders fan friend has been trying to rationalize the Schaub trade.

 

But then I think back to Palmer being a refugee from the Raiders, and us getting him for dirt cheap too, and I feel conflicted.

 

But the difference being, if you think Schaub's attitude and focus is going to get better in the dumpster fire that is the Raiders, you're going to have a bad season.

post #124 of 2984
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My poor Oakland-native, Raiders fan friend has been trying to rationalize the Schaub trade.
I have a feeling this trade means the QB class isn't very good. Cleveland and Oakland both wanted Schaub and with both in the top 5 I'm thinking we could see the qb's drop big time.

I would love for Johnny Manziel to fall to the Cowboys and Jerry Jones takes him.
post #125 of 2984
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I have a feeling this trade means the QB class isn't very good.

 

I think it means the Raiders coaching staff is in "win now" mode and can't afford the luxury of grooming a rookie.

post #126 of 2984
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I have a feeling this trade means the QB class isn't very good. Cleveland and Oakland both wanted Schaub and with both in the top 5 I'm thinking we could see the qb's drop big time.

I would love for Johnny Manziel to fall to the Cowboys and Jerry Jones takes him.

 

I'm hearing the exact same thing around Jacksonville, arguably the most QB-needy team in the league. Conventional wisdom today says that Houston pulls the trigger on Bortles but Bridgewater and Manziel both fall, and possibly one out of the Top 10. Jacksonville seems dead set on taking defense with 1.03 and getting two QBs, possibly one in the second round and one third-day, which many many people feel will be Aaron Murray.

post #127 of 2984
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Jets drop Sanchez, add Vick.
A pity. I was starting to warm up to Rex Ryan and the Jets. Oh well. Now I know which team I hate with a burning passion now.
post #128 of 2984

What in the world did DeSean Jackson do to piss everyone off? Teams are openly saying they won't touch him with a ten foot pole, and the Raiders said the only way they'd take him is if he came free.

 

The Raiders.

post #129 of 2984
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One of the Bucs fan sites called him a cancer and ... I'm really not seeing it.  He held out once (only missing training camp), and may have exhibited some diva behavior, but name me a big-name wide receiver who hasn't (and who didn't usually get a pass for it).  

post #130 of 2984

Larry Fitzgerald. Just sayin'.

post #131 of 2984
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I'm hearing the exact same thing around Jacksonville, arguably the most QB-needy team in the league. Conventional wisdom today says that Houston pulls the trigger on Bortles but Bridgewater and Manziel both fall, and possibly one out of the Top 10. Jacksonville seems dead set on taking defense with 1.03 and getting two QBs, possibly one in the second round and one third-day, which many many people feel will be Aaron Murray.

Would the Jags possibly also try to sign Mark Sanchez?

post #132 of 2984

Betcha the Vikings try and sign Sanchez.  It'd totally be in character for them.

post #133 of 2984
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Remember about two months ago when all the talk was about how there were three potential franchise quarterbacks all going in the top 10?  Now apparently none of them are worth a high draft pick?  They need to put the draft back on its original date, because everybody's over-analyzing this thing.

post #134 of 2984
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Remember about two months ago when all the talk was about how there were three potential franchise quarterbacks all going in the top 10?  Now apparently none of them are worth a high draft pick?  They need to put the draft back on its original date, because everybody's over-analyzing this thing.

 

Yeah... that's every off-season, though. Last year it was Geno Smith, Matt Barkley and EJ Manuel. Manuel was the only one to go in the first round, right? Next year, we'll all be over-analyzing Mariota's combine and pro day performances. It's all we've got until that little beacon of light in May, then the end of the tunnel when preseason starts.

 

Sadly though, we won't have Tebow to laugh at in the preseason games. The president of my company I bonded last year over beer, pizza and laughing at Tebow.

post #135 of 2984
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Would the Jags possibly also try to sign Mark Sanchez?

I don't think so. Warts and all, they (correctly) realize that Henne was better than Gabbert, and that bringing in another veteran would just be more confusing. They're gonna draft a QB and give him every opportunity to become THE guy. It just may not be right away.

post #136 of 2984

aaaand Sanchez goes to Philly. Because if there's one set of fans that are better than New York fans, it's Philly fans.

post #137 of 2984

Daryl Washington plead guilty to aggravated assault charges, and will be sentenced on April 23rd.

 

As a Cardinals fan, I say we drop him. He just got his bonus, and I think that's a more than fair severance for a player who'll have his second suspension in as many seasons for stupid shit. And someone who hits women deserves no second chance.

post #138 of 2984
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
 

Remember about two months ago when all the talk was about how there were three potential franchise quarterbacks all going in the top 10?  Now apparently none of them are worth a high draft pick?  They need to put the draft back on its original date, because everybody's over-analyzing this thing.


Think it was more like the beginning of the season but I don't blame them for over analyzing them.  You pick a QB who doesn't shine right away and you are done.  And with the top names either underperforming or not coming out then you have to go with a better shot at a sure thing and get a known quantity at QB,

post #139 of 2984
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Thing is, with the rookie wage scale, you're no longer obligated to start a first round QB by virtue of how much you're paying him.  They don't have to shine right away.

post #140 of 2984
Sanchez to the Eagles is hilarious. Can't wait to see how that works out.
post #141 of 2984
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Thing is, with the rookie wage scale, you're no longer obligated to start a first round QB by virtue of how much you're paying him.  They don't have to shine right away.

THe fact that they make less makes them more attractive to start because the teams can use the money they save on a QB and give it to other important players.  THey get 3 years of cheap QB service.

post #142 of 2984

Dan Snyder, in a move that could in no way be construed as cynical brand protection, founds a new charity dedicated to helping Native Americans. (File it under "good acts for wrong reasons.") The name of the charity is the Original Americans Foundation.

post #143 of 2984
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Dan Snyder, in a move that could in no way be construed as cynical brand protection, founds a new charity dedicated to helping Native Americans. (File it under "good acts for wrong reasons.") The name of the charity is the Original Americans Foundation.

 

You can't write this shit, folks.

post #144 of 2984

Ralph Wilson is dead.

 

I don't know whether to celebrate (because he clearly wasn't helping the Bills in his later years and had a history of penny-pinching) or to mourn (because once the Bills' lease runs out in five years, they're leaving for Toronto or points west).

 

He leaves behind a complicated legacy that I'm sure will be whitewashed by the Western New York media.

post #145 of 2984

Not a good day of news for the Bills' family.

post #146 of 2984
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Not a good decade of news for the Bills' family.

 

Fixed that for you.

post #147 of 2984
How long till the Bills move?
post #148 of 2984

Their lease has a one-year buyout in 2019 worth $29m. Any other year in the lease (through 2022) and the buyout's $400-500m. 

 

So they'll be in Buffalo for the next five years at least. The rest depends on who buys the team or whether Ralph left directions in his will (doubt it, but you never know). 

post #149 of 2984

The last member of the Foolish Club to still own a team.  RIP

post #150 of 2984
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Their lease has a one-year buyout in 2019 worth $29m. Any other year in the lease (through 2022) and the buyout's $400-500m. 

Then I guess Buffalo will have a team for 5 more years.

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