Halloween: Resurrection.....now I know why it got so much hate

I would very much like to agree with you sir! I also find it a tad hard to believe that michael somehow (in h20) put his mask on a random dude, threw him into a body bag, and saw to it that he got into the ambulance just so that he could make it away. First of all he is Michael Myers not friggin harrison ford!! I personally believe that they should have cut the series off after part 2. The first 2 films were excellent, and part 2 would have been a great ending to michaels existance. Though the follow ups are pretty good slasher films, i believe they had nowhere to go with the series so they come up with a crap plot and decide to make Michael a child of the Rune cult. OH well i could go on. What does everybody think about this series?

My thoughts exactly WRT parts 1 & 2. I know a lot of people don't like part 2, but I thought it was a great continuation, and has some of my favorite slasher movie scenes--the blood pool in the operating room, and the glass-door crash-through. Watch them as a double feature, and you've got a nice, complete story, with a satisfying conclusion. After that, ugh.

And be warned, there's a lot of love for Part III on this board, inexplicably, imho. I mean, come on: CLOCKWORK AUTOMATONS. That's a Full Moon plot, guys.

That would be MIGIT Clockwork Automatons...

...from Romania !

I dig Halloween III, but otherwise... no. No sequels, senorita. Part II is a valiant attempt but still a bane on the Halloween name, the rest go down in order, besides III, which should have dropped Halloween and just been called Season of the Witch.

Rosenthal's commentary track on "Resurrection" is almost as pathetic as the movie. He really thinks it's not only a good movie but a superior sequel in the series. He brings up audiences reactions to the "two Michaels" scene (POSSIBLE SPOILER: The scene in which Busta, dressed as Michael, confronts the real Michael): "It takes a moment for the audience to get it. At first they're kinda confused, and as then the scene unfolds they begin to get into it. But from the very first moment, from the time this reveal occurs...they (The Audience) go, 'What? What's going on?' And then they begin to feel like, 'Hmm...This is pretty interesting.' They can't quite believe that there are two Michael Myers. One of 'em is stalking the other one."

And then, he goes on to say, "In fact, that's the scene that's most cited. It's not a horror scene, it's not a killing, it's not a scene of violence, it's a scene of comedy and I think that's part of what makes the film a little bit different from some of the other Halloween sequels, and also what makes it different from a lot of the horror films that we've seen. It's not a spoof, it's not a satire, it's a horror film but it has it's own brand of humor. And it's a constant mix back and forth."

It must be nice living in a vacuum. What color is the sky in Mr. Rosenthal's world?

Unbelievable.

"And then the audience is thinking, 'God, this director really is a god among men! He must have genitals no other mortal can match! Testes the size of small planets! Civilizations bloom and fade on the hairy pocked landscapes of his scrotum! Girth such as Hitchcock could only dream about!' And I'm thinking, 'That's right, you audience bitches. Bask in the glory of my genius, and my genitals."

Actually, that sounds like an entertaining commentary, though probably not in the way he'd hoped.

Jesus fuckin' Christ are you serious? Wow...that's all I can say...just wow.

I have to sadly say that I sorta liked it when I first seen it. However I must add that it had been a little while scince I had seen the first one. After This Halloween marathon on AMC my attitude changed. Those other sequels may have been crap but damnit you have to admit Daniel Harris was one of the high points of those movies. Her performances were good in my opinion. That scene in (I believe) part 5 when she is trapped in the laundry shoot is pretty damn cool. Ressurection had NO good performances. I liked the first part, but it truely went downhill after that. It is simply the worst one.

Halloween Resurrection Commentary: The Uncut Version

Deleted phrases in bold.

"It takes a moment for the audience to get it. What the fuck is this shit?, they ask themselves. At first they're kinda confused, and as then the scene unfolds they begin to get into it. Because they think that they're going to see Busta Rhymes get his guts ripped out. But from the very first moment, from the time this reveal occurs...they go, 'What? What's going on?' because that's the audience reaction all great directors want - blind confusion. And then they begin to feel like, 'Hmm...This is pretty interesting.' because they've found a hole in their pocket and have realised they can stroke their balls, thus affording them a few precious minutes of pleasure in the midst of this skull-fuck of a movie. They can't quite believe that there are two Michael Myers because it's possibly the lamest idea in a line of really fucking lame ideas. One of 'em is stalking the other one and nobody cares .

"In fact, that's the scene that's most cited by people who want to pull my lungs out through my asspipe. It's not a horror scene because that would make sense , it's not a killing because I don't know how to film those , it's not a scene of violence because this is the weakest slasher movie ever made , it's a scene of comedy by mistake and I think that's part of what makes the film a little bit different , or shit, from some of the other Halloween sequels, and also what makes it different from a lot of the horror films that we've seen because nobody has ever blended horror and comedy before, it was my idea, I'm a fucking genius. It's not a spoof because that requires genre knowledge , it's not a satire because that requires intelligence , it's barely a horror film but it has it's own brand of humor that I like to call "funny as penile cancer" . And it's a constant mix back and forth because I couldn't make my mind up."

I must say, i enjoyed your substitute commentary there Mr. W. I enjoyed picking my ass up off the floor.

I still love the flick.
so fuck all y'all!

Consider me fucked.

Dan, you are a fucking genius.

Hat's off to Dan W. And yes, what I originally printed is a verbatim transcript of some of his commentary during that particular scene.

I particularly like Dan's use of the phrase "asspipe." That's something I'd never heard before.

Rick Rosenthal, ladies and gentlemen: director of the best Halloween sequel and the worst Halloween sequel. He's damn proud and he should be!!

Haha, excellent commentary.

but "And be warned, there's a lot of love for Part III on this board, inexplicably, imho. I mean, come on: CLOCKWORK AUTOMATONS. That's a Full Moon plot, guys."

No not at all, i actually LIKE many Full Moon movies. they don't take themselves too seriously, and don't turn out like that with NEAR the same budget.

has anyone here seen that Producer's Cut of Halloween 6? Thinking of picking one up on ebay, really hope it's better.

as for resurrection, no, it wasn't good, by any sense of the word, but for the most part it was dumb stupid fun....for stoners and drunks. No way near as good as Jason X in that regard, but it was alright.

Be forewarned about the Producers cut-it makes an really bad movie even worse! Without giving anything away, the end sequence with micheal I thought was very lame and anticlimatic, and the open ending or direction they were looking to take additional sequels was extremely bad. It is a n interesting piece just because they ending is completely different than what was released, to be able to see what was and what could have been, but in all honestly I've owned it for several years and have only watched it once, even while do my Halloween arathon, I stick with the released version as opposed to this. I also got my copy from ebay, and another warning here, my copy sucks ass quality wise. There is constant buzzing in the audio, the picture is extremely dark and grainy, you can tell this thing has gone through several generations of re-recording. This isn't to say the person on ebay has a bad copy, but when you go to get bootleg stuff from ebay, or the convention scene, be carefull! I've been suckered more than once one these things, and it pisses me off everytime! (grin)
in short, I would try "borrowing" a copy rrather than paying it.

You mean I'm a genius at fucking? Well, shucks...

I'm actually of the opinion that the Producer's Cut of 6 is an improvement over the release version. Please take that with a grain of salt: the release version is absolute garbage, so if the Producer's Cut is "an improvement" I'm not saying that it's an undiscovered gem. I find that a lot of folks who have gotten their hands on it tend to lay on the hyperbole because a.) it's cohesive, and b.) they know that very few other people are ever going to be able to see it. (I've actually heard the word "classic" used. Come on, guys...)

I got my copy from a great source and have no complaints about the quality. As there is no reputable source for this item, it's impossible to say what you'll get.

To give you an idea of how it's different, I'll reiterate that it's cohesive, a word I would not use to describe the release cut of the film. The score is much better, full of re-done Carpenter Halloween music, most of which was replaced in the release cut.

POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW:

The flashback scene to the conclusion of H5 is shown and carried through.

The pace is completely different. What constitutes a truncated second act in the release version is actually the entire movie in the Producer's Cut. Long (ineffective) suspense passages and story clarification were deleted in the finished version, obviously intended to pick up the pace. I guess they thought no one would notice that nothing made any sense.

Certain characters' fates and death scenes are completely different. There's more Loomis, who actually does things in this version.

As has already been mentioned, the ending is completely different. The Producer's Cut third act is shorter and contains no talk of cloning and there's no surgeon's massacre scene. No "X-Files" tanks of green fluid or laughing Tommy Doyle (though he does smile at a really odd moment which is similar to his bizarre reaction in the release cut). Basically, think of the two versions diverging almost completely when Loomis and Tommy go to Smiths Grove, only meeting up again for a brief scene in the epilogue. This cut sticks with the evil cult and the runes and has a very strange, double-twist ending that, again, is more cohesive than the ambigous and abrupt conclusion to the release version, but is still a head-scratcher.

Where did you get yours? I want one.

Eh, maybe it's just me, but I've liked all of them up to H20 which was pretty shitty, and I won't even start in on Resurrection.

Personally, I wish they'd pretend H20 and Resurrection never happened and continue from #6 but it's probably wishful thinking on my part.

I’d have to say that not only is it wishful thinking, but it seems like they’ve chosen to go in the opposite direction entirely. At least H20 tried to hold on to some of the continuity (Laurie Strode’s fake death, stills of Loomis from the other movies, etc.), but Resurrection not only dismisses 4 thru 6 (with the mental patient who rattles off Michael’s history, consciously skipping all of the events found in those films) but actually tries to start new origins and motivations outside of the ones established in 4 thru 6. So while it would be great if they could either go back to where they left off or tie it all together, it looks to me like they’ve started this “new” continuity and intend to go on with it.

Read the comics.

I remember leaving the Theater after Part5 and I was really stoked to see the next one (the Rune and all)...

Boy was I let down! Wouldn't mind getting to see the "classic" cut

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