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post #1 of 271
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Preseason Coach's Poll

 

1. Florida State (56 first place votes)

2. Alabama

3. Oklahoma (3)

4. Oregon (1)

5. Auburn

6. Ohio State (1)

7. UCLA

8. Michigan State

9. South Carolina (1)

10. Baylor

11. Stanford

12. Georgia

13. LSU

14. Wisconsin

15. USC

16. Clemson

17. Notre Dame

18. Arizona State

19. Ole Miss

20. Texas A&M

21. Kansas State

22. Nebraska

23. North Carolina

24. Texas

25. Washington

post #2 of 271
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Sort of weird that the two SEC teams in the Top 5 don't get any first place votes. This is also the first year of the "playoff". So you don't have to be perfect, but just good enough to be in the Top 4 at the end of the season.

 

Oh, and any guesses as to which coaches respectively gave Ohio State and South Carolina first place votes? I'm stumped. (not really)

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Much as I loathe Urban Meyer, I'm sure Ohio State will be one of the top 4 teams by the end of the year. Blech. My Top 4 - Florida State, Ohio State, Oregon and Auburn.

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11358048/notre-dame-fighting-irish-investigating-possible-academic-fraud

Notre Dame is busting itself for academic fraud. Props to them but I still love seeing them fail. I just can't wait till they have to join one of the big conferences so they can get relevant again in football. They really just need to join the Big Ten and get it over with
post #5 of 271
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I still don't understand the deal they signed with the ACC. Unfortunately I can't make the ND/FSU game after seeing my son's football schedule. But we might be able to make a couple of games this year with his bye weeks and the end of the season being when it is. I think we may actually go to the UF game...I haven't been to a UF/FSU game in probably decades.

post #6 of 271

Ohio State QB Braxton Miller out for season. I feel bad for Miller, but on the bright side, this also hurts Urban Meyer.

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If anyone can buck this trend, it's Nick Saban, but history points to the Tide's dynasty being over.

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With the playoff you'll probably get a more unpredictable champions, especially if it expands.  But if Alabama keeps getting the top recruiting class every single year, the playoff also gives them a greater likelihood of being in the championship mix at the end of the year.  It's like being a baseball team with a high payroll.  You aren't always going to win, but you're way more likely to have a shot.

 

(Having said all that, I didn't read the article yet, so apologies if I am repeating anything.)
 

post #9 of 271

The article has more data in it, but I do think that Auburn's shocking win combined with Oklahoma crushing them in the Sugar Bowl could be a sign of things to come. 

post #10 of 271
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If Bama isn't in the mix this year for the NC, then I might start to say they're on the decline. But I also think Saban will use that to motivate the team even more. I wonder how many times he's shown his team that OU game tape.

 

I think UF will sneak up on some people this year--if they had a friggin Div II level offense last year, there's no way they lose 8 games, and they were killed by injuries. A weak Big 12 could still allow Ohio State in the title picture.

 

One thing is for sure, we'll all be bitching about at least one of the "final four" when playoff time hits.

post #11 of 271
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If Bama isn't in the mix this year for the NC, then I might start to say they're on the decline. But I also think Saban will use that to motivate the team even more. I wonder how many times he's shown his team that OU game tape.

 

I think UF will sneak up on some people this year--if they had a friggin Div II level offense last year, there's no way they lose 8 games, and they were killed by injuries. A weak Big 12 could still allow Ohio State in the title picture.

I don't think the Gators will be in the mix at all. Muschamp's a lame duck. Frankly, I think Tennessee could beat Florida this year, something I haven't been able to say with a straight face in years.

 

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 One thing is for sure, we'll all be bitching about at least one of the "final four" when playoff time hits.

There's 4 slots, and we have 5 power conferences. I'm guessing the complaining will rotate between conferences each season, similar to how they're rotating the site of the championship game.

post #12 of 271
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And holy shit what a nightmare it will be if by some weird happenstance all 4 teams are from the same conference. Is there any type of rule-making that won't allow that? Like maybe a max of 2 teams per conference like the BCS games were?

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And holy shit what a nightmare it will be if by some weird happenstance all 4 teams are from the same conference.


That would never happen.  Its up to the committee's discretion... and has there ever even been a top four poll in any week with all the teams from the same conference?

post #14 of 271

Yeah, I think the conference championship games will prevent that from ever happening. I think a more realistic nightmare scenario would be one of the conference runner-ups beating out a conference champ for that final spot.

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I don't even think that's a nightmare scenario.  If you're a great team, ranked first, and undefeated, and you lose a close conference championship game to a two loss team ranked, say, tenth... why should they go over you?

 

If it wasn't for the money they generate, I'd say just get rid of conference championship games.

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So, ESPN did a thing today where they asked all of the head coaches in college football to use one word to describe their team. The one word Charlie Weis used? "Quiet Confidence."

 

Never change, Mr. Schematic Advantage.

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Yeah, I think the conference championship games will prevent that from ever happening. I think a more realistic nightmare scenario would be one of the conference runner-ups beating out a conference champ for that final spot.

Early in the days of the BCS, Nebraska got spanked in their conference championship game by Colorado, but still went on to the NC game, where they got spanked by Miami.

post #18 of 271
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Well, I just realized that I will not be in a position to watch the FSU/Okie St. game this Saturday. We're going away for a few days and the place we're going won't have cable, satellite, etc. Recording it at home, but I guess I'll be keeping up on the Tweeters.

post #19 of 271

It looks like Southern Cal's season has already crashed into the mountain, with Shaw kicked off the team for lying about saving his nephew, and senior DB Anthony Brown leaving the team, accusing Steve Sarkisian of being a racist. WHEE!!!!

post #20 of 271

Ole Miss looked awful in the early going but finally managed a semblance of a football team by the end.  Maybe they can maintain their ranking for a few weeks longer!

post #21 of 271

Johnny Manziel - product of the system?

 

Ah, Steve. I bet you long for the days of having a defensive coordinator named Stoops.

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Man, this season completely sneaked up on me. At least we remembered to schedule a warm-up before VT's annual national-TV early-season embarrassment against a contender. Although with their star QB out, OSU's supposedly vulnerable. Should VT actually win next week, I can live with the asterisk everyone will hang on it, if it makes Urban Meyer sad.

 

But first things first. Bring on the Tribe of William & Mary! Should be a close one.

post #23 of 271

I stayed up way too late watching Vanderbilt get destroyed at home by Temple. So glad to see the Commodores revert to their non-cheating form.

post #24 of 271
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I followed most of the FSU game on Twitter and just finished watching it now. I'm not shocked--I hate these first games where they play big time games. I'll take an ugly win over a beautiful loss any day. And WTF at the end of the game with the clock? You gave the defense a free timeout by a guy losing his helmet. Citadel next, a bye, then the next test at Clemson. Learning a lesson feels much better if you don't lose. They've got to throw to more receivers than Greene and Whitfield and rotate more DTs in the middle--apparently shitty practices made them hesitant to rotate in more of the other DTs. Another blown down field coverage, which happened a lot last season. Pruitt did a good job at halftime adjustments...I hope Kelly does that going forward as well. Getting outscored the 2nd half 21-20 was not good. 

post #25 of 271

Difficult to say if it's a worse day for the Big Ten, what with Michigan getting housed by ND, Michigan State losing to Oregon going away in the second half, Northwestern losing to Northern Illinois, Nebraska needing a last minute score to beat McNeese State, and (currently) Ohio State locked in a dogfight with Virginia Tech-- or the SEC, who played a who's who of cupcakes.  Looking at the scores 41-0, 65-0, 73-7, 59-13, 56-0, 31-3 (at the half), etc...
 

post #26 of 271

This... is NOT how I expected this game to go. I'm kind of at a loss. I mean, I know VT's ridiculous record against top-ranked opponents all too well. I guess no one told the players! Holy crap! I like these youngsters! I have... hope?

 

Everyone who hates Urban Meyer, you're very, very welcome.

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This... is NOT how I expected this game to go. I'm kind of at a loss. I mean, I know VT's ridiculous record against top-ranked opponents all too well. I guess no one told the players! Holy crap! I like these youngsters! I have... hope?

 

Everyone who hates Urban Meyer, you're very, very welcome.

I would happily drink a jar of his tears.

 

I saw Urban at halftime, and I swear, he's aging worse than a president. He looks 20 years older than he did two years ago.

 

The Tennessee Vols are 2-0. This pleases me. The team is clearly more talented than they've been in a while, but they're seemingly all freshmen and sophomores, save for maybe 3-4 guys. The special teams are lousy, and I'm certain Oklahoma will stomp us next week, but the future looks bright.

post #28 of 271
At least the Big 10 won't embarrass themselves in the playoffs.
post #29 of 271
So Penn State gets their Bowl games ban lifted after just 2 years? How does that happen? They covered up child rape at the school. Fuck the NCAA. They are lucky they dropped this news on Ray Rice day.
post #30 of 271
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Roger Goodell and NCAA...same adviser?

 

So, a Citadel OL bragged about "adding to the injury list" for FSU as 3 of the DTs went down Saturday night during the game. Then he recanted and said he didn't express himself properly and he didn't mean they were trying to hurt people after he said they succeeded in hurting people.

post #31 of 271
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So Penn State gets their Bowl games ban lifted after just 2 years? How does that happen? They covered up child rape at the school. Fuck the NCAA. They are lucky they dropped this news on Ray Rice day.

It's called "arbitrary bullshit justice." A specialty of both the NCAA and the NFL.

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Roger Goodell and NCAA...same adviser?

 

So, a Citadel OL bragged about "adding to the injury list" for FSU as 3 of the DTs went down Saturday night during the game. Then he recanted and said he didn't express himself properly and he didn't mean they were trying to hurt people after he said they succeeded in hurting people.

It's a military school. Hell they probably get bonuses for that. Should have scheduled Idaho.

post #33 of 271
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So Penn State gets their Bowl games ban lifted after just 2 years? How does that happen? They covered up child rape at the school. Fuck the NCAA. They are lucky they dropped this news on Ray Rice day.


Ironically Gerry Sandusky* is being interviewed about the Rice thing right now.

 

* Ravens broadcaster

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It's a military school. Hell they probably get bonuses for that. Should have scheduled Idaho.

That was last year.

post #35 of 271
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That UF/UK game reminded me of the UF/Auburn game a few years ago where it seemed like no one wanted to win.

 

Steve Spurrier continues to survive on this world from living off the tears of UGA fans.

 

Virginia Tech did what Virginia Tech does and lost to ECU. Boston College beats USC. And they may make 'em bigger in Texas, but not smarter. 

post #36 of 271

Tennessee got trounced at Oklahoma as expected. The Vols are clearly improved, talent-wise and coaching-wise, but they're SO young. (A third of the team who went to Oklahoma were making their first plane trip.)

 

It's gotta suck being a Florida fan right now. Even the wins feel like losses.

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It's gotta suck being a Florida fan right now. Even the wins feel like losses.


 

Especially since that should have been a plain old loss.  The tying TD on fourth down in OT should have been a delay of game.

 

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Once again, UGA comes in with a good team and ranking and a lot of promise...and stumbles early. It has happened every year going back to 2009 or 2010 I think.

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Virginia Tech did what Virginia Tech does and lost to ECU.

 

A week later than expected, but yup. A problem with having such a young team, the kids are more likely to fall for the classic letdown game.

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A week later than expected, but yup. A problem with having such a young team, the kids are more likely to fall for the classic letdown game.

Va Tech has lost 4 of the last 5 games the week after they've beaten a Top 5 team. Beamer needs to work on avoiding letdowns as well.

post #41 of 271
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FSU opens as a 22 point favorite over Clemson. Oy. I just want the win, whether it's 2 or 22.

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Muschamp will not survive the year.

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Muschamp will not survive the year.

He'll definitely coach the whole season. After that . . .

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No, I mean some deranged Gator fan will climb to the top of Ben Hill Griffin and bust a cap in his ass.

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No, I mean some deranged Gator fan will climb to the top of Ben Hill Griffin and bust a cap in his ass.

I think this Gator fan neatly sums up the fanbase:

 

post #46 of 271
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Va Tech has lost 4 of the last 5 games the week after they've beaten a Top 5 team. Beamer needs to work on avoiding letdowns as well.


That's bullshit. BULLSHIT! I refuse to believe this nonsense. You claim Beamer's beaten five Top 5 teams? Rubbish.

 

[pulls flask from desk drawer]

post #47 of 271

This is amazing...


 

Part of a fake punt run by Arkansas State.


 



 


 

It was... unsuccessful.

post #48 of 271

It looks like a trust fall and #3 betrayed him.

post #49 of 271

Jameis Winston suspended for the first half against Clemson. At today's press conference, FSU's sports information director threatened to cancel the conference if asked about it. The FSU-assigned reporters meekly did what they're told.

 

I don't really have an opinion on the Seminoles (any team that beats Florida is okay with me), but the way the entire city of Tallahassee has coddled this guy is remarkable.

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What a weird reason to suspend somebody a half.

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