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post #1 of 151
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One episode in - I like the goofy crudeness, reminds me of Archer. But the extended dragging shit out bits from family guy can go fuck off. Flashbacks and jumps in time mostly work, unlike family guy. Some cute sight gags and offbeat transitions. Will Arnett is still amusing. Don't really care for Amy Sedaris' character. Took a long time to introduce Allison Brie.

Will dive back into this after getting back from work.
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Getting Keith Olbermann to anchor MSNBSea news is inspired...and then having him getting worked up into a tizzy and spewing shit out of his blowhole. I laughed.

It's something you don't pick up on in the first ep, but later on you start seeing that the voice actors personify the animals they play in this show with tiny little vocal ticks. Aaron Paul doesn't come into his own until a few episodes in.

I'm liking this so far.
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The first couple episodes were just ok but I'm at episode four and it is starting to really pick up steam. The line about the Holocaust being like the Olympics killed me. 

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Finished the season last night and holy shit the last three episodes were fantastic. Easily one of my new favorite animated shows in quite some time.

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Love the news whale.
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A couple of episodes in now, and the voice cast is definitely elevating the material. Also, great to see (well, you know what I mean) Paul F. Thompkins in anything. 

 

EDIT: Also, I love how Decapathon VII turned out to be a Match 3 game. That's a solid gag right there. 


Edited by Splatoon - 9/2/14 at 12:37am
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Down with the flu so I just binge-watched this and...huh. Definitely liked it, but I'm debating with myself whether I would have liked it more or less without the tonal shift in the last few episodes. It definitely still brought the funny, but the dramatic elements, while well-executed, just felt kind of rote, and I feel like there's a lot more of that kind of downer indie fare out there than there are amiable comedies. I'm a little loopy at the moment so I may not be in the best state to analyze, but it sort of felt like a condensed version of the Futurama syndrome, where it starts out nice and light, then there's some heavier moments that play well, then it sort of becomes focused on the heavier moments to the detriment of the comedy. Anyway, just my initial reaction and again, take that with a fever-addled grain of salt. 

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The Lucy moment in episode 11 was pretty brilliant. I also loved the Boston family. Fuck dat Jeetah!

 

Yeah I agree about the dramatic elements. I didn't mind the sudden dark bits (loved the Breaking Bad-esque intrigue with the game receipt), but by the 50th time Bojack wondered aloud to himself, "But can I really change if I want to be a good person if I'm a bad person but I want to be a person that can really change if they are goodbad into badgood if a person is bad, but they're really good?", my brain started to glaze over.

 

It was good enough that I enjoyed the whole thing, and there was a genuine great laugh every episode or two, but the show itself overall falls just short of great. It seems like it would've benefited a from a little more iteration/editing/rewriting, whatever. The Netflix Original format lets them go full self-indulgent and blend it all in to one big semi-miniseries, when I think it needed the episodic treatment. They could've done 6 or 7 episodes first, then held the rest for a few months to see if they needed any punching up, and check out people's reactions.

 

The supporting cast and animal gags were my favorite parts. As much as I liked it, I don't know if I could take another 12 episodes of Bojack navel gazing.

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The supporting cast and animal gags were my favorite parts. As much as I liked it, I don't know if I could take another 12 episodes of Bojack navel gazing.

I do agree that you couldn't really do another season like this. 

 

That being said, the tonal shift towards the end of the season is where I really came to enjoy Bojack. I'm tired of the meanspiritedness found in cartoons like Family Guy, and I really liked that the show itself seemed to be really optimistic about its characters. It's a bit heavy-handed, but the voice acting really helps make the material shine.

 

It's also really funny.

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I don't know when I became wary of adult animated shows (possibly around the time Family Guy became an unkillable monster) but even the better ones are often mean-spirited, repetitious and relying on cheap shock humour. It's weird because animated stuff for adults was my dream when I was a teenager. (Well, Simpsons existed then too, but I thought it might lead to more, y'know, variety...) Plus, I understand the value of limited animation--it can actually be funnier than lavishly rendered stuff--but the cumulative effect of all these kinds of shows is that adult TV animation looks shitty and ugly (with The Venture Brothers being a pleasant exception). All of which to say that I was reluctant to give this a try, despite hearing good things.

 

But nine episodes in, I'm really enjoying it! There's still a bit of the "GOSH WE'RE EDGY" crap that bogs down Seth McFarlane and his wannabes--Bojack throwing up cotton candy isn't as funny as they think it is--but most of the gags are legitimately smart and character-based. And somehow the fact that they weave in a bunch of vaudeville-level animal-related puns and visual gags is charming (some of them are legitimately hilarious, too, like the llama sucking up grass clippings as he mows the lawn, or the bird-men flying away by flapping their arms--the nonsensical "rules" of this world are half the fun). My favourite joke is the 80s flashback beginning with Bojack listening to a song whos lyrics are "GENERIC 80S NEW WAVE BEAT, YEAH, THIS IS THE MUSIC OF THE 80s, THE DECADE THAT IT CURRENTLY IS" and Bojack *singing along*.

 

But it's the character stuff that really makes it shine. I like that Bojack isn't just a flat-out narcissistic jackass, sometimes he's the smartest guy in the room. Same with Todd actually being a decent guy despite being a parasite, sort of (though of course the rock opera episode flips that around a bit). And Diane's stereotypical family of...Bostonians was amazing. There's no way one of the writers isn't from Boston. Oh, and the desperate Penguin publisher. I like that the comedic premise of each supporting character is really clear and logical as soon as they appear, it's not just something random like "This is Bojack's lawyer, and he also LOVES TO ROLLER SKATE! WACKY!"

 

Interesting to hear it takes a more dramatic (?) turn in the last few episodes. I thought they knocked it out of the park with the episode where Bojack confronted his old partner, dying of cancer, so I'm cool with that.

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I don't know when I became wary of adult animated shows (possibly around the time Family Guy became an unkillable monster) but even the better ones are often mean-spirited, repetitious and relying on cheap shock humour. It's weird because animated stuff for adults was my dream when I was a teenager. (Well, Simpsons existed then too, but I thought it might lead to more, y'know, variety...) Plus, I understand the value of limited animation--it can actually be funnier than lavishly rendered stuff--but the cumulative effect of all these kinds of shows is that adult TV animation looks shitty and ugly (with The Venture Brothers being a pleasant exception). All of which to say that I was reluctant to give this a try, despite hearing good things.

 

But nine episodes in, I'm really enjoying it! There's still a bit of the "GOSH WE'RE EDGY" crap that bogs down Seth McFarlane and his wannabes--Bojack throwing up cotton candy isn't as funny as they think it is--but most of the gags are legitimately smart and character-based. And somehow the fact that they weave in a bunch of vaudeville-level animal-related puns and visual gags is charming (some of them are legitimately hilarious, too, like the llama sucking up grass clippings as he mows the lawn, or the bird-men flying away by flapping their arms--the nonsensical "rules" of this world are half the fun). My favourite joke is the 80s flashback beginning with Bojack listening to a song whos lyrics are "GENERIC 80S NEW WAVE BEAT, YEAH, THIS IS THE MUSIC OF THE 80s, THE DECADE THAT IT CURRENTLY IS" and Bojack *singing along*.

 

But it's the character stuff that really makes it shine. I like that Bojack isn't just a flat-out narcissistic jackass, sometimes he's the smartest guy in the room. Same with Todd actually being a decent guy despite being a parasite, sort of (though of course the rock opera episode flips that around a bit). And Diane's stereotypical family of...Bostonians was amazing. There's no way one of the writers isn't from Boston. Oh, and the desperate Penguin publisher. I like that the comedic premise of each supporting character is really clear and logical as soon as they appear, it's not just something random like "This is Bojack's lawyer, and he also LOVES TO ROLLER SKATE! WACKY!"

 

Interesting to hear it takes a more dramatic (?) turn in the last few episodes. I thought they knocked it out of the park with the episode where Bojack confronted his old partner, dying of cancer, so I'm cool with that.

It's still really funny, but Bojack's character study comes in full force for the last remaining episodes.

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If you're digging this you might also like Ugly Americans, I thought it had a similar vibe (albeit lighter on the drama). 

post #13 of 151

Ugly Americans was sooooo good. One of the best animated shows I've seen in recent years. Obscure and underrated too, but at least it got 2 full seasons. I'd love a move or some kind of continuation, but I don't know if there is even a fanbase.

post #14 of 151

Watching this actually inspired me to go check out some (semi) recent Adult Swim fare, as I haven't watched anything on that channel regularly since college. Caught the first season of China, IL, which was OK but felt...weirdly generic in its absurdity, like a pastiche of other stoner cartoon comedies. Looking forward to catching up on SuperJail! and Squidbillies though, both of which I remember being really good for the first few seasons. I also want to go back and check out Harvey Birdman, the gold standard for me back in the day. 

post #15 of 151
Been slow to keep watching this. But I just hit the very inspired Breaking Bad parody, which might not even have counted as a parody without Aaron Paul in the cast, and I was pretty impressed. Absolutely none of the obvious BB signifiers, just a very clear thematic parody. Very Rick and Morty moment.
post #16 of 151
Season 2 tomorrow. Cant wait to binge it this weekend. I watched the first season a couple times and think this show deserves more attention. Hope Vincent Adultman is back.
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Season 2 tomorrow. Cant wait to binge it this weekend. I watched the first season a couple times and think this show deserves more attention. Hope Vincent Adultman is back.

HEY! SOMEONE ELSE CARES ABOUT THIS SHOW!!!

 

But yeah. It took a bit, but Bojack definitely did creep up on me, and I really loved that it became more of a character-based drama as it went a long. Definitely can't wait for second season.

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HEY! SOMEONE ELSE CARES ABOUT THIS SHOW!!!

 

But yeah. It took a bit, but Bojack definitely did creep up on me, and I really loved that it became more of a character-based drama as it went a long. Definitely can't wait for second season.

 

See, I had the opposite reaction as things got maudlin, then REALLY maudlin. It was like later season Futurama where it felt like they were going to the drama well way to often, only here wasn't earned. Curious to see what tone they go with for the second season.

 

That said, anything that puts cash in PFT's pockets is OK by me. 

post #19 of 151

This was a pleasant surprise in that turned out not to just be a goofy show.

post #20 of 151

Anyone else watched any of S2 yet?  I'm digging it so far.  The ending of the third episode is pretty goddamn great.  And I'd forgotten just how hilarious Tompkins is on this show.

post #21 of 151
Im starting it tonight. After i leave the business place and have a alcohol.
post #22 of 151

Probably get in on Saturday, good to know it's starting strong. 

post #23 of 151
Wow, that chicken episode...
post #24 of 151
That chicken episode indeed. Loved that they actually explained how theres animals raised to be human-like and some for food.
post #25 of 151
Finished the second season. Great stuff. Maybe not as funny as season 1 but it goes deeper with the characters and relationships. Episode 11 was a gut punch. Hope there is a season 3.
post #26 of 151

And yet after the gut punch of Episode 11 (which I found hard to watch because I knew it was going to go there), the final episode is such a beautiful mix of cynicism, humanity, and, ultimately, hope.

 

Warning: Spoiler for Season Finale (Click to show)
BoJack rescuing Todd, Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter's reunion (this was particularly moving IMO - Tompkins and Brie knocked this scene out of the park), Princess Carolyn striking out for herself were all wonderful scenes, and that final line from the ape jogger was as hopeful a closing statement as I think I've heard on a recent TV show.

It's amazing how strangely profound this show is, and yet ridiculously funny too.  The game show episode (with its pitch-perfect Sorkin rip, even throwing in the Gilbert and Sullivan "and I'm never sick at sea!" shout-out that he loves) was a personal favorite, especially that hilariously dark ending with Bojack refusing to get the right answer out of sheer spite.

post #27 of 151
Cant believe a couple of the guest voices they were able to get. Wish they would release season 1 on bluray, i see netflix has released other shows on the format.
post #28 of 151
Shame no one is watching this. I honestly think its one of the best character studies on depression ive seen. Well now that i type that i can see why its not for everyone.
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Shame no one is watching this. I honestly think its one of the best character studies on depression ive seen. Well now that i type that i can see why its not for everyone.

 

I'm watching it and loving it. I just can't frequent the threads for Netflix shows until I'm done with the season. You know, spoilers, etc.

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Yeah, I was under the impression that Bojack Horseman did quite well for itself, at least in regards to the attention it got. Enough for a second season, at least. It is just difficult to talk about it online when everyone's at a different place in their watching. For instance, I'm only four episodes in right now, and don't want to know what happens in the season. How's he going to fuck up his relationship with Wanda the owl? I don't want to hear about it.

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 How's he going to fuck up his relationship with Wanda the owl? 

who?

post #32 of 151
just watch--
 
oh.
 
goddammit.
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who?

 

Why, nooj, was that a pun?

post #34 of 151

what?

post #35 of 151
Just watch. Its a real hoot.
post #36 of 151
Enjoyed Todd enough the first season but he might be my favorite character this season.

"You're like Lara Croft, but with the body of Diane"
post #37 of 151
Just got renewed for a 3rd season. Glad this comes on Netflix cause it probably wouldnt last anywhere else. Hope they have an endgame in mind and doesnt go on too many seasons.
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Just got renewed for a 3rd season. Glad this comes on Netflix cause it probably wouldnt last anywhere else. Hope they have an endgame in mind and doesnt go on too many seasons.

Considering how it ends....

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
With Bojack yet again determined to change his life.

 

I doubt they could do another season of this. It's the type of incredibly personal character study that really can only last a couple of seasons. So yeah, I'm hoping they wrap things up for the third season.

post #39 of 151

If Mad Men can go 7.5 years of hourlong episodes about Don's constant dissatisfaction and self-sabotage, I don't see why Bojack can't do a few more seasons of half hours considering it has a much more malleable and easily expanded world to play with and a cast that won't age visibly. 

 

This season was fantastic, btw.  It's hard to pick a single highlight, between the gameshow/Sorkin episode, the chicken one, and the brutal penultimate episode.  But I think I laughed hardest at two phone related bits - Todd playing matchmaker with his and Princess Carolyn's workphone, and Diane's Serial ringtone, which made me laugh as a clever little character beat when it started and then got two more full LOLs out of me before it ended.

post #40 of 151

Late to the party but absolutely loved this show.  Top to bottom one of the best new shows I've seen in a long, long time.

 

The Chicken episode, and Todd and Meow Meow FuzzyFace interpreting Becca's "clucks" was some golden era comedy writing.

post #41 of 151

It's all about Vincent Adultman.

post #42 of 151

Season 3, July 22nd.

 

So happy about that.  Hadn't heard anything up until now.

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Great news for a great show!

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Yesssssssssss
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Glad to see J. Goddamn D. Goddamn Salinger in a shot there.  "Let's Find Out" was a fucking masterpiece of an episode.

post #47 of 151

Watching the new season right now as a restorative-panacea from the dual horrors of the endless Munich shooting-coverage and last night's Trump retro-Hitler rally speech.

 

I desperately needed this, and it dropped just at the right moment. ("Is my name Sarah Koenig? 'Cuz I'm about ta get CEREAL!!")

post #48 of 151
Best TV comedy around. So funny, so depressing.
post #49 of 151

Just finished the underwater-episode (#4).

 

Wow. This show.

post #50 of 151

Two episodes in, and the guest performances are KILLING it.  Angela Bassett and Mara Wilson in the premiere, Jeffrey Wright and Jessica Biel in the second one.

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