Cannibal Ferox

Where can i find this movie at a decent price? I have seen bits and pieces of Cannibal Holocaust, and it was totally fucked. I havent seen Ferox (is it subtitled "Make Them Die Slowly"?

Yes it is. It was also TITLED 'Make Them Die Slowly' when it first came out, mainly because people are stupid.

Yet another movie I should beat myself for having never seen.

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EAT THIS

Thanks yet again, oh great overseer.

Dudes... watch/buy this movie at your own risk. I saw it recently at Cinefest (student theatre at Georgia State). The only thing I enjoyed about it was watching the stunned reaction on a bunch of stoned college kids' faces. It's a fairly turgid peice of work that doesn't really deserve the reputation it has gained.

Sick? Yes.
Worth seeing for it's reputation? Sure, I guess.
Worth seeing for any other reason? That'd be a big, fat "no".

I didn't like the violence against the animals, which some of it--if I'm not mistaken--was real. I viewed it once and sold it.

Worth seeing, not worth owning.
Watch it with friends so you can be properly appalled at the animal violence. Watching it alone is only going to make you feel creepy.

It was one of my first DVDs

I dig the movie, I just wish that the animal killing wasn't in it

the director didn't want to put in the killing, but the studio made him....they said that stuff goes over big in china. So the director made his 2nd unit guy shoot the parts with the animals.

Still think Cannibal Holocaust was worse...animal wise

Not even Gary Coleman could make me watch this movie. Not even if it's entitled "Coleman Ferox".

Oh god gimme a break. Its not someones little kitty that is being slaughtered. A fucking rodent and a turtle that was eaten.

I'm a country boy, try having to put down a wild dog, or an asshole neighbors dog that keeps killing your livestock or anopther asshole neighbors dog that was left tied in the heat and got a swollen brain and went feral. THATS fucked up.

To compare it to things that happen in real life, like putting down a rabid dog or slaugthering a cow in a slaughterhouse, is beside the point here, IMO.

I think what bothers people about the "animal snuff" in films like Cannibal Ferox is that the animals were slaughtered for the film in order to entertain the audience. For once you cannot say "it's only a movie" because it's the real deal. I have seen much more graphic footage of animal abuse and tortue on TV in documentaries about the food industry and while you can of course suggest that even that footage was included because of sensationalism (and therefore entertainment) I think there is still a difference between a documentary about animal abuse and a film that features animal torture/killings as part of its plot.

I am not an expert when it comes to these kinds of films and I don't know what happened with the dead animals after they got offed. But even if they were eaten and not just thrown away like a used prop it still remains questionable to include something like that in a cheesy exploitation horror film just to gross people out or to deliver a new thrill.

Another classic Giovanni Lombardo Radice life-exit though. The man has issues...

Too bad Lenzi is no Deadato. He at least regrets, apologises for and abhors most of the animal cruelty inflicted for ...Holocaust. Still, it's better than his Eaten Alive, but alarmingly racist all the same.

Still, fascinating stuff.

That's not the point. Films are made for ENTERTAINMENT. I don't care if it's a fucking money spider or a blue whale, animals SHOULD NOT be killed on camera for entertainment.

Kinda my bad too actually. I was thinking CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST.

I'm not a budhist so the death of a muskrat or an ant doesn't really bother me. I see the point of it as entertainment, and yeah upon reflection I agree. BUT I have so many more problems about HUMAN rights in this and other countries that the little animals are taking a backseat.

I don't see how some can defend someone like Larry Clark and his absolute exploitation of children then turn around and worry about a rodent in a foreign country that was killed 20 years ago. I think it's absurd.

If you think the animal cruelty in these Cannibla flicks is bad, you people should do your best to avoid Men Behind the Sun

NO SHIT ADAM! thats some strong juju right there...

I guess you were talking about me ... So I'll try to explain, even though that means that we hopelessly derail this thread.

In the end it comes down to the fact that fake sex between actors (even if they portray people who would be underage in the USA) doesn't end said actors life. The actors who work with Clark do so of their own free will and are actually praising him and his work even years later. He doesn't abduct them and force them at gunpoint to fuck for his home videos. Get real.

A monkey that has been slaughtered in a foreign country 20 years ago doesn't really concern me. I totally agree that human rights violations are a priority. In fact I didn't have that much of a problem with the animal cruelty in Cannibal Ferox. I was just trying to point out that the reason it is controversial is that it presented as entertainment. It is not any worse than your average bullfight in Spain or what billions of chickens endure every day so we can have our breakfast eggs.

But back to Larry Clark and why I usually defend him. To understand where I am coming from you have to know that the laws regarding sex in Austria (the country where I live) are completely different from the US. First of all there's a difference between boys and girls. Girls are legally allowed to have sex with 14 but only with guys who are under 18. Lesbian relationships between 14 year old girls are not a problem.

Guys are legally allowed to have sex from 16 upwards. If you're gay, however, you'll have to wait until you're 18 (they are about to change that to 16, though). If you're a guy/man ages 18 or older you are allowed to have sex with any girl/woman aged 16 or older.

This is how it is and I was raised in a society that is pretty liberal wherever sex is concerned. So excuse me if I have no problem if some teenagers have fake sex on screen.

Does that mean Austria is full of demented perverts (7 millions of them)? Or could it be that Americans are still caught up in the heritage of the Puritans?

I found a little store who have ALL the old horror movies(vhs).I saw Cannibal Ferox a week after i have seen CAnnibals hollocaust.It would have been better the other way around.ferox beeing a lesser film than Hollocaust.

Ps Before animals were just animals.Now we see them with more sympathy.The director wouldn't even think about doing something like that,and not only because it offends people,but because it is not right.

Pss the animals were eaten.

Wetbones writes : In the end it comes down to the fact that fake sex between actors (even if they portray people who would be underage in the USA) doesn't end said actors life. The actors who work with Clark do so of their own free will and are actually praising him and his work even years later. He doesn't abduct them and force them at gunpoint to fuck for his home videos. Get real.

Dude I'm thinking more about the UNDERAGED girl on acid that he picked up in a park and took back to "The Clapper" for a gangbang. He victimizes and exploits children straight up.
And I posted above "MY BAD" because I confused Cannibal Ferox (which I have but have yet to watch) with Cannibal Holocaust (still an offender in the animal cruelty area)
I also stated "UPON REFLECTION I AGREE" I just have more important things to worry about. Yes, I admit to being a bit cynical. It happens when you've seen people, PEOPLE, killed in front of you. It puts death in perspective.

I do recant a bit the tone of my first post. Yeah, it's uncool, sure. But the worst I've seen in a film? Actually I am also more concerned with the message films like GUINEA PIG: Flowers Of Flesh And Blood send into humans brains who enjoy that shit.

For the record, I am NOT arguing with you either. Your points are valid (save for Larry Clark. I would be surprised if you are a parent.)

Well, I AM a buddhist. And I do consider all life equally precious. But it is no more or less precious than a plants life, or even a grain of sand in the greater scheme of things. So in the end, it really doesnt matter all that much.

Sounds absurd right?

If the celluloid/DVD/Etc entertains you, then just be entertained. If it doesnt, then hit stop and move on. It is only obsessing about it that is really negative at this point. The negativity of creating it may not have helped the world, but it may not have really hurt it either. But to worry about it NOW, this hurts your world.

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I would debate this.

cf: Richard Dyer's article (actually, book I think) "Only Entertainment"...

OK, let's leave it at that. I didn't want to engage in a huge argument with you either. I was defending Larry Clark the filmmaker. As for Larry Clark the photographer ... I've never read any of his books and honestly I don't want to spend 500$ just to form my own opinion. Whatever.

You're right about me not being a parent, btw. I give you credit for feeling protective of your daughter and I totally understand that that influences your views on "artists" like Mr. Clark. That's cool. Who knows, maybe my own views will change if/when I become a father.

Yeah BONES I totally wasnt "engaging" you either. And to be fair I like "KIDS" by Clark.

I hate these and all types like this.

I too am glad to see this bothers normal people, but I would take it a step further and not recommend anyone seeing this vile trash. I would never show it to friends in fear of them labeling me a psycho or the off chance that some stump enjoyed it.

And to compare this mean-ass shit to Larry Clark and his actors acting like kids fucking is the dumbest thing I've heard in many moons.

It seems all of the Italian horror I have seen is fucking garbage.

Animal cruelty happens too often in my life, I have no desire to see a crappy film about it.

Just out of curiousity, what Italian stuff have you watched?

I don't like to see fake scenes of animals being killed in movies, so the real stuff bums me out.

That being said, I dig Cannibal Ferox, as well as all the Italian horror movies. Yes there's steaming piles of shit there, as well as any country's movies, but these movies are so nasty and in your face.

There's something so unreal and unworldly about those movies. You could not get my ass in a jungle for any reason. That place looks like a death trap.

Made in the Amazon, where life is cheap!

The animal cruelty scenes are just cruel and senseless, but they add to the despairaging vibe the movie puts out.

I don't think the majority of people would find these types of movies extreme without the animal scenes, which is precisely why scenes like this are put it. It's unfortunate really, that such a cheap thrill has to be put into these movies, and really unfortunate that animals had to be brutally beaten and killed.

That said, let the people in the movies drop! They're fair game, and entertaining to watch being butchered. (kidding)

QUOTE:And to compare this mean-ass shit to Larry Clark and his actors acting like kids fucking is the dumbest thing I've heard in many moons.

Read it again man. I compared Clark's REAL LIFE photos not his films. Picking up a teen in a park frying her brains out and taking her back to a room to get gang banged by ADULTS isn't exploitive and just plain WRONG? Good, YOUR kid can be in his next film.

Well, as I stated earlier I somehow mistook FEROX for HOLOCAUST. Watched FEROX today and yes, the animal cruelty is off the chart.

It was a bit difficult...

Whew! Brain eatin' goodness!

After Night and Fog, this all seems incredibly tame. Still, I love the ending.

In some ways I like Ferox a little better than Holocaust, because Ferox has more of a 70s crime noir flair aspect going for it. Although Dr Butcher MD beats em both in that regard

JUNGLE HOLOCAUST is better than all three of them.

I like the opening theme to Ferox. Also, can't go wrong with dialogue like "Stay put shitface!"