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post #101 of 3585
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Although it was thought that the female lead in MGM and Paramount's upcoming Timur Bekmambetov-helmed remake of Ben-Hur had gone to Gal Gadot, The Hollywood Reporter today brings world that Gadot's commitments to Warner Bros.' massive DC Cinematic Universe slate will prevent her from taking the role.
 
Set for a release on February 26, 2016, the new take on Ben-Hur was originally scripted by Keith Clarke (The Way Back), with revisions by Academy Award-winner John Ridley (12 Years a Slave). Gadot was to have played Esther, a slave and romantic interest to Jack Huston's leading man. Check back to find out who will be playing the part as soon as a decision is made.
 
Although it's only a rumor at this stage, Bleeding Cool is meanwhile reporting that Warner Bros. appears to be planning a full trilogy of Wonder Woman solo films and, according to their unnamed source, the first one will take place back in the 1920s and will reveal Themyscira's first encounter with the outside world and Wonder Woman's own experiences with a USA that still had a lot to learn about equal rights. Then, they claim, a sequel is planned to take place in the 1940s and will be set against the backdrop of World War II. A third would finally bring Wonder Woman's solo adventures to the contemporary setting of the planned Justice League films.
 
Of course, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt at this stage. What is known for sure is that Gadot's Wonder Woman will make her debut in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, hitting theaters March 25, 2016 and will get her own solo film on June 23, 2017.
post #102 of 3585
From any other studio I would take this as a huge sign of confidence in what Gadot has done with Wonder Woman. But I just don't know...
post #103 of 3585
This begs the question of how big Gadot's role actually will be. Until now I always thought it was no bigger than a cameo for BvS.

Meanwhile we some description of the Supergirl tv series was announced which confusingly gives her the alias of Kara Danvers.
http://tvline.com/2014/10/30/supergirl-tv-show-cbs-casting/

Anyway also some known characters from the superman universe will star as well though no word if there's an actual superman present and if this also ties with that whole Krypton tv series or this simply being something of a standalone.
http://tvline.com/2014/10/31/supergirl-casting-jimmy-olsen-cat-grant/#more-561270
post #104 of 3585
So, Otto Binder created Supergirl (Kara Danvers) and Mary Marvel (not to be mistaken with Marvel's Carol Danvers)... WTF
post #105 of 3585
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Looks like Michelle MacLaren is in talks to direct Wonder Woman.
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COOL BEANS

post #107 of 3585

Ehh...she's worked as a producer on great Chris Carter shows, and directed some episodes of Breaking Bad and GoT that were great. She's never directed a movie, we don't know if she has a voice or style of her own.

 

Remember what happened when a guy who directed some Game Of Thrones episodes directed Thor 2? We got a pleasant pudding cup of mediocrity.

 

*Edit: She directed the direct to video film Population 436, featuring Fred Durst. Missed that one.

post #108 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post

 

Remember what happened when a guy who directed some Game Of Thrones episodes directed Thor 2? We got a pleasant pudding cup of mediocrity.

I don't know the guy's work otherwise, but I'd lean towards 'blaming' Marvel for that moreso than the director.

 

Which, I admit, still adds up to the same thing: that it's really hard for a director to shine in a corporate product like that.

 

Let's hope MacLaren isn't steamrolled by WB/DC.

post #109 of 3585

To be fair to that director, he was brought in after somebody was fired at the last minute wasn't he?  I can't think of a last minute movie like that where the direction was outstanding.

post #110 of 3585

Jai Courtney is being rumoured for the part of Deadshot in the Suicide Squad movie.

 

Truly the Jude Law of this generation.  If Jude Law hadn't actually been in a few good movies.

post #111 of 3585
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To be fair to that director, he was brought in after somebody was fired at the last minute wasn't he?  I can't think of a last minute movie like that where the direction was outstanding.

 

To be even more fair, Thor 2 was pretty good.  I'd give it a B/B+ish. 

post #112 of 3585
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To be even more fair, Thor 2 was pretty good.  I'd give it a B/B+ish. 


I mean!  Yeaaaaaahhhh...  I'm sure it...  Okay...  I mean, I'll agree with this...  I think?  I'm not going to go out of my way to rewatch it as soon as I would Iron Man 3 or Guardians or Winter Soldier.  Then again, "the weakest of the Phase 2 films" is barely a derogatory thing to say. 

post #113 of 3585
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I mean!  Yeaaaaaahhhh...  I'm sure it...  Okay...  I mean, I'll agree with this...  I think?  I'm not going to go out of my way to rewatch it as soon as I would Iron Man 3 or Guardians or Winter Soldier.  Then again, "the weakest of the Phase 2 films" is barely a derogatory thing to say. 

 

Was Iron Man 2 part of Phase 2?  Because if so, it's the worst by a fucking mile.  If you doubled it in quality, it still would be the worst. 

 

**I just checked.  It isn't.  I would give Captain America 2 an A+ right until the moment that Hydra is introduced.  From that point forward, C-/D+.  So, I don't know ... is that one the worst?  Hmm...this is a tough call.  Thankfully it's just internet geekery and I can stop thinking about it now.

post #114 of 3585
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Was Iron Man 2 part of Phase 2?  Because if so, it's the worst by a fucking mile.  If you doubled it in quality, it still would be the worst. 

 

**I just checked.  It isn't.  I would give Captain America 2 an A+ right until the moment that Hydra is introduced.  From that point forward, C-/D+.  So, I don't know ... is that one the worst?  Hmm...this is a tough call.  Thankfully it's just internet geekery and I can stop thinking about it now.


Oh please. 

post #115 of 3585
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Oh please. 

 

post #116 of 3585

I understand where you're coming from, but that twist, specifically the reveal scene and the idea that the twist has ramifications beyond just one film, is something I love to death.  It's an awesome, awesome movie and I'll hear nothing else about it out of you Sith lord!

post #117 of 3585
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I understand where you're coming from, but that twist, specifically the reveal scene and the idea that the twist has ramifications beyond just one film, is something I love to death.  It's an awesome, awesome movie and I'll hear nothing else about it out of you Sith lord!

 

Yes, yes ... unleash your anger.  With every post you make yourself more my servant. 

post #118 of 3585

 

If I get to be this guy I can't sign up fast enough. 

post #119 of 3585
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Henceforth, you shall be known as Darth... Douche.

post #120 of 3585
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Now there are rumors of Will Smith being in Suicide Squad as Captain Boomerang, while Tom Hardy's in talks for a role, too. If DC pulls all this off, it'll be awesome to watch it as it develops.

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Originally Posted by Shaun H View Post
 

Now there are rumors of Will Smith being in Suicide Squad as Captain Boomerang, while Tom Hardy's in talks for a role, too. If DC pulls all this off, it'll be awesome to watch it as it develops.


I didn't think Will Smith took non-leading roles. 

post #122 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

I understand where you're coming from, but that twist, specifically the reveal scene and the idea that the twist has ramifications beyond just one film, is something I love to death.  It's an awesome, awesome movie and I'll hear nothing else about it out of you Sith lord!

WAIT I THOUGHT YOU AGREED WITH ME ON CA2. FREEMAN, YOU LIAR!!!!

 

 

Also *looks for Merriweather*

 

Thor 2 is so awful.

post #123 of 3585

Thor 2 is fiiiiiiiiiiiine.  Unlike a Man Of Steel there's nothing technically wrong with Thor 2.  It has funny jokes, the structure is more or less fine.

 

I would watch it enthusiastically over Steel man any day, for sure.  It still technology goes into the "good movie" category. 

post #124 of 3585
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Technology, it might not.

post #125 of 3585

Excuse me, my freudian slip is showing. 

post #126 of 3585
If Will Smith stars in a film as a character called Captain Boomerang I will eat my own face. One chunk at a time.
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Has Smith ever played an irredeemable, unlikable scumbag?  He'd probably be a solid Rick Flag or Deadshot (him in the 90s as Deadshot would've been pretty great, actually - he absolutely would've knocked the character's swagger out of the park), but him as Boomerang just doesn't seem to fit at all.  Pretty much every other mainstay of the squad has some kind of likable, reedemable quality, but Boomer's always been a total piece of shit.


Edited by Dent6084 - 11/14/14 at 12:38am
post #128 of 3585
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Now there are rumors of Will Smith being in Suicide Squad as Captain Boomerang

Yes but isn't his thing that he only stars in flims? Isn't that why the Django role fell apart? Because he felt Django wasn't really the lead? Or did I imagine that? Im not Googling anything im too tired.

post #129 of 3585

It's such a ridiculous absurd rumor.  To think for a second that Will Smith would decide to play a low level goon who's only famous for killing Robins dad and who no non comics person has ever heard of.  IF Will Smith does a DC role it's going to be Jon Stewart, and even that I doubt because he'd be expensive as hell, and Green Lantern isn't the center of the DCU enough for me. 

post #130 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Ska Oreo 

 

Also *looks for Merriweather*

 

Thor 2 is so awful.

 

I HEARD THAT GET BACK HERE

 

Smith being cast as Boomerang makes more sense than him taking on any of the larger names being touted for the squad. Mainly because no-one gives a shit about CB so he can be rewritten as a wronged man who was totally framed for his crimes and is actually heroic and a super swell guy. Because we all know that Smith ain't playing an out-an-out scumbag.

post #131 of 3585
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Yes but isn't his thing that he only stars in flims? Isn't that why the Django role fell apart? Because he felt Django wasn't really the lead? Or did I imagine that? Im not Googling anything im too tired.

 

I was under the impression that he turned it down because he felt it would conflict with the image he's worked so hard to create for mainstream audiences.

post #132 of 3585

The story Smith told was that he couldn't take the part because he felt he should have been the one to kill Calvin Candie, thus proving that he had no understanding whatsoever of the script.

 

The inside baseball story is that Smith wouldn't take the part without his usual army of yes-men coming with him and retooling the script so that Django matched the image Smith wanted.

 

Neither option makes Smith look good.

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I was under the impression that he turned it down because he felt it would conflict with the image he's worked so hard to create for mainstream audiences.

Well in Wild Wild West he plays a Cowboy who constantly gets insulted by white people racially and then he shoots them and he played Ali which again isn't exactly keeping with his image.


Edited by Waaaaaaaalt - 11/14/14 at 1:15pm
post #134 of 3585

Smith takes himself a LOT more seriously now than he did even ten years ago. He's fallen in with the Scientology crowd, he's established his brand as one of the two biggest movie stars on the planet, and he's getting deep into middle age. He's been rewriting scripts to match his image going back at least as far as I, ROBOT. Look at what he did to HANCOCK - that was a completely different film until he came onboard.

post #135 of 3585
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I still hope to one day see him under the direction of Tarantino in a part that isn't quite himself.

post #136 of 3585

I'd like to see him stretch under someone like Tarantino too, but in retrospect I think he'd have struggled as Django. I was a big fan of him taking the role when the rumours first leaked, but when you look at the finished article it's hard to imagine him doing as good a job as Foxx, who leans into the pulpy blaxploitation-tinged aspects of the character juuuust enough. Smith would have either been his usual righteous good-guy self or a total cartoon, I think.

post #137 of 3585
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I still hope to one day see him under the direction of Tarantino in a part that isn't quite himself.

Seriously, this. I really, really wanted him to be Django.

post #138 of 3585
I just want to a see the version of Will Smith who actually enjoys what he does.
post #139 of 3585
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"Now, that's not a Will Smith I've seen in a long time... A long time."

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Has Smith ever played an irredeemable, unlikable scumbag?  

Hancock is the closest he'll ever get to that. That and probably his character from Bad Boys 2.

post #141 of 3585

Smith has only FOCUS and "UNTITLED NFL CONCUSSION DRAMA" lined up right now. It would be a smart move to do an edgy supporting role, before leading a blockbuster (BAD BOYS 3).

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I just want to a see the version of Will Smith who actually enjoys what he does.


Also applied to: Bruce Willis.

post #143 of 3585
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Bruce had a ball with Looper.

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Bruce had a ball with Looper.
It really was nice to see him giving a shit..
post #145 of 3585

The funniest thing about that was Kevin Smith asking Rian Johnson, "wasn't he awful and terrible and shitty to you?!"  and Johnson going "No, not at all.  He was lovely and we got along great and he really respected me."

 

Cut to Kevin Smith just fuming. 

post #146 of 3585
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The funniest thing about that was Kevin Smith asking Rian Johnson, "wasn't he awful and terrible and shitty to you?!"  and Johnson going "No, not at all.  He was lovely and we got along great and he really respected me."

 

Cut to Kevin Smith just fuming. 

Yeah he supposedly respects writer directors more. And even though I didn't like Cop Out and smith sometimes irks me there really is no excuse me taking  afilm that you don't like and then acting shitty on set all day. Especially when you have the money and stardom to do any film you want.

post #147 of 3585
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Yeah he supposedly respects writer directors more. And even though I didn't like Cop Out and smith sometimes irks me there really is no excuse me taking  afilm that you don't like and then acting shitty on set all day. Especially when you have the money and stardom to do any film you want.

 

 

Kevin Smith had a small part in the last (or was it next to last?) Die Hard film and had a good time with Willis. So Willis probably signed up for Cop Out based on that, and the fact that Smith IS a Writer/Director.

 

Then once he was on the set he realized Smith had no clue. Hell Smith himself admitted in his rant ripping Willis that he (Smith) didn't know which camera lenses to use at one point, and Willis admonished him never to admit that in front of the crew. If Smith had had his shit together I'm sure his experience with Willis would have been much different.

 

Reminds me of Kurt Russell walking of the set of Django because supposedly QT was getting hit faced on the set all the time.

post #148 of 3585

AND YET, Russell is going to return for Hateful Eight.  I love Russell sooooo much that I hope he keeps making movies with QT.  Stuntman Mike was something special.

post #149 of 3585
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Reminds me of Kurt Russell walking of the set of Django because supposedly QT was getting hit faced on the set all the time.

 

I remember Russell was going to be in "Django" at one point, but I never heard why he left the project. Where did you get that? 

 

And, to echo Freeman, I am stoked he's going to be in "Hateful Eight." It'll be cool to see Russell in another Western, and under Tarantino's direction again... Whatever problems I have with "Death Proof" (and there are a few), Russell sure as shit wasn't one of them.

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Kevin Smith had a small part in the last (or was it next to last?) Die Hard film and had a good time with Willis. So Willis probably signed up for Cop Out based on that, and the fact that Smith IS a Writer/Director.

 

Then once he was on the set he realized Smith had no clue. Hell Smith himself admitted in his rant ripping Willis that he (Smith) didn't know which camera lenses to use at one point, and Willis admonished him never to admit that in front of the crew. If Smith had had his shit together I'm sure his experience with Willis would have been much different.

 

Reminds me of Kurt Russell walking of the set of Django because supposedly QT was getting hit faced on the set all the time.

But again why be a dick all day to everyone? Why accept a film you don't like and then act like you don't want to be there? I mean one thing that shines through is Willis not wanting to be there in his lack of chemistry with Morgan. And the reason I brought up the writer director bit is because Smith didn't write Cop Out. 

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