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post #2901 of 3585

And comic books have a history of being sensitive in this area.

 

Like that time Nightwing got raped by a supervillain

 

 

Or the added sex scene in The Killing Joke movie that, of course, happens after Batgirl and Batman fight

 

post #2902 of 3585

Can't wait for JaWhedon to put that in! 

 

i can. i really, really can. 

post #2903 of 3585

You saw Entourage.  In Theaters.  One of the more prominent feminists on Chud.

 

This does not compute.  ENTOURAGE.

post #2904 of 3585
No one saw Entourage in theaters.
post #2905 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

You saw Entourage.  In Theaters.  One of the more prominent feminists on Chud.

 

This does not compute.  ENTOURAGE.

 

1. I had Movie Pass at the time, and at the time Entourage came out, I had already far exceeded the monthly cost of movie pass in theater tickets so I was, in effect, seeing it for free.

 

2. There was a lot of talk and think-pieces at the time about Entourage, and the Entourage movie in particular, about the movie's place within our culture of toxic masculinity and the attitudes presented therein. As a feminist - though you use that label, not me - I believe that (get ready to vomit if you're reading this, Cylon) patriarchy hurts everyone, and it's important to be aware of the messages we're sending to boys and men as well as to girls. Know the other perspective, so to speak.

 

3. I wanted to see if it would hold up as a film to someone, like me, who was only vaguely familiar with Entourage.

 

4. Writers who I admire, like Alyssa Rosenberg, have and had written admiringly about the show in the past. I was curious, which brings it to...

 

5. Morbid curiosity. This was honestly the biggest reason - it was getting so savaged that I had to see for myself.

 

6. Again, it was a long, hot, fallow period in the summer, and I wanted to see something that day.

 

7. I felt bad for a solid couple days afterwards. I honestly wish I hadn't wasted my time on it. But I donated the cost of a movie ticket to a organization that does a lot of work supporting women in the sciences at the college level.

post #2906 of 3585
This is why Snyder had Batman shoot everyone. He was trying to avoid this! 4d chessmaster Snyder, always 1 step ahead.
post #2907 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

 

1. I had Movie Pass at the time, and at the time Entourage came out, I had already far exceeded the monthly cost of movie pass in theater tickets so I was, in effect, seeing it for free.

 

2. There was a lot of talk and think-pieces at the time about Entourage, and the Entourage movie in particular, about the movie's place within our culture of toxic masculinity and the attitudes presented therein. As a feminist - though you use that label, not me - I believe that (get ready to vomit if you're reading this, Cylon) patriarchy hurts everyone, and it's important to be aware of the messages we're sending to boys and men as well as to girls. Know the other perspective, so to speak.

 

3. I wanted to see if it would hold up as a film to someone, like me, who was only vaguely familiar with Entourage.

 

4. Writers who I admire, like Alyssa Rosenberg, have and had written admiringly about the show in the past. I was curious, which brings it to...

 

5. Morbid curiosity. This was honestly the biggest reason - it was getting so savaged that I had to see for myself.

 

6. Again, it was a long, hot, fallow period in the summer, and I wanted to see something that day.

 

7. I felt bad for a solid couple days afterwards. I honestly wish I hadn't wasted my time on it. But I donated the cost of a movie ticket to a organization that does a lot of work supporting women in the sciences at the college level.

 

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No one saw Entourage in theaters.
post #2908 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

 

1. I had Movie Pass at the time, and at the time Entourage came out, I had already far exceeded the monthly cost of movie pass in theater tickets so I was, in effect, seeing it for free.

 

2. There was a lot of talk and think-pieces at the time about Entourage, and the Entourage movie in particular, about the movie's place within our culture of toxic masculinity and the attitudes presented therein. As a feminist - though you use that label, not me - I believe that (get ready to vomit if you're reading this, Cylon) patriarchy hurts everyone, and it's important to be aware of the messages we're sending to boys and men as well as to girls. Know the other perspective, so to speak.

 

3. I wanted to see if it would hold up as a film to someone, like me, who was only vaguely familiar with Entourage.

 

4. Writers who I admire, like Alyssa Rosenberg, have and had written admiringly about the show in the past. I was curious, which brings it to...

 

5. Morbid curiosity. This was honestly the biggest reason - it was getting so savaged that I had to see for myself.

 

6. Again, it was a long, hot, fallow period in the summer, and I wanted to see something that day.

 

7. I felt bad for a solid couple days afterwards. I honestly wish I hadn't wasted my time on it. But I donated the cost of a movie ticket to a organization that does a lot of work supporting women in the sciences at the college level.

You spent a significant amount of time explaining yourself, so I'll let it slide...  This time.  

post #2909 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

You saw Entourage.  In Theaters.  One of the more prominent feminists on Chud.

 

This does not compute.  ENTOURAGE.

 

This will not be forgotten.  

 

 

I see everyone talking about how violence is sexualized in superhero stories, and I'm like...duh?  How do you address sexuality at all in a superhero context without violence inflecting it?   Violence inherently defines all aspects of superheroes.  They're fighters.  That's the whole thing.

post #2910 of 3585

There's a scene in ENTOURAGE where a billboard for The Jinx is seen. I'm not going to say that Entourage is the worst thing Robert Durst has been associated with, because come on, that's offensive.

But it's close.

post #2911 of 3585

I watched the first two seasons.  I enjoyed Ari Gold for a time.  I'm man enough to admit I watched douchebag Sex In the City under the pretense that it wasn't a douchebag show for douchebags, but a Hollywood show. I even enjoyed those early seasons.  

 

But by the time the movie came out I was long looooooooooong out.  Like on another planet out.  

post #2912 of 3585

When I was in grad school I was a bellman at a hotel and knew a guy that LOVED Entourage.

 

He also blamed everything on Jews.

 

I've never watched Entourage.

post #2913 of 3585

It had its moments!  Back when we all thought it was biting parody of douche Hollywood and not just actually ...  Celebrating douchebag Hollywood.  

post #2914 of 3585
While this might seem like a crippling derail, it is actually a round about way to talk about that James Cameron Aquaman! Woulda been neat!
post #2915 of 3585

But he wouldn't be all Doth'raki and badass.  

post #2916 of 3585
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Reeves is explicitly going for a noir take on Batman. This limits the likely villains. 

 

I agree.  We're undoubtedly looking at Poison Ivy, Mr. Freeze,  and Bane as the likely adversaries  /s.

post #2917 of 3585
CHILL
post #2918 of 3585

Hollywood Reporter is saying Shazam! is next:

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/shazam-is-next-dc-movie-shoot-1022821

 

The part about the Rock's involvement is pure franchise-building craziness, though - so they're doing a Shazam film and the Rock is attached to the role of Black Adam, but he's not going to be in Shazam and will instead appear in a Black Adam spinoff? OK, then!

post #2919 of 3585
Jake Gylly as Prince of Persia: ridiculous racism

Polynesian Geological Anomaly as Middle Eastern: fuck it

I understand wanting The Rock, possibly President The Rock in your franchise, but why Black Adam? Such a Z lister.
post #2920 of 3585
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Jake Gylly as Prince of Persia: ridiculous racism

Polynesian Geological Anomaly as Middle Eastern: fuck it

I understand wanting The Rock, possibly President The Rock in your franchise, but why Black Adam? Such a Z lister.

Apparently The Rock actively pursued the part? Dude loves Black Adam.

 

The irony is, he'd actually be pretty incredible as Shazam - he could totally pull off the "little kid suddenly in a superhero's body" Tom Hanks in Big-style performance.

post #2921 of 3585
Yeah, I have no idea why he's not playing Shazam.
post #2922 of 3585

The "What if you could be The Rock?" would be a huge selling point.

 

Unfortunately, they're kinda doing that already with the new Jumanji

post #2923 of 3585

It also seems like the Jumanji reboot does the 'Rock as small kid in big body' thing. 

post #2924 of 3585
I think we have to entertain the notion that The Rock is a repressed teenage edge lord.
post #2925 of 3585
I mean, who isn't a repressed teenage edge lord?
post #2926 of 3585
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Yeah, I have no idea why he's not playing Shazam.

 

Especially since casting him as the villain means 1) whoever plays the hero will be constantly overshadowed and 2) the audience is going to cheer for Black Adam instead of Shazam! (I know that's not the character's actual name but I can't be bothered to look it up).

post #2927 of 3585
If he doesn't keep it repressed he might single handely jump start an extr3m3 90's nostalgia trip. I'm not ready for The Biker Mice From Mars.
post #2928 of 3585
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Especially since casting him as the villain means 1) whoever plays the hero will be constantly overshadowed and 2) the audience is going to cheer for Black Adam instead of Shazam! (I know that's not the character's actual name but I can't be bothered to look it up).

 

Character's actual name is Captain Marvel...

 

So he's being called Shazam! 

 

And if Armie Hammer doesn't end up playing Hal Jordan I'd like to see him in the role. 

post #2929 of 3585
They can't legally call him Cap Marvel. Poor guy got name cucked.

I also don't understand how he is called Shazam! If he introduces himself does he turn back into a kid?
post #2930 of 3585

Can't decide which hero I find least interesting: Cyborg or Captain Marvel.

 

DC does love creating endless variants of Superman, doesn't it?

post #2931 of 3585
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Can't decide which hero I find least interesting: Cyborg or Captain Marvel.

 

DC does love creating endless variants of Superman, doesn't it?


Captain Marvel I give a pass to.  DC didn't create him, just bought the character years after he was created (and for a time in the Golden Age he was even more popular than Superman!)

 

Though I agree the character isn't terribly interesting, and tends to work much better in a DCU that's more...lighthearted than we usually see in the current comics, much less the movies thus far.

 

As for the Rock playing Black Adam, well...in recent years Black Adam has been a huge badass in the comics.  Basically the character they use to illustrate what happens when you have a Superman-level guy that doesn't hold back for fear of hurting others or rocking political boats.

post #2932 of 3585
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And if Armie Hammer doesn't end up playing Hal Jordan I'd like to see him in the role. 

 

I think Armie Hammer's chances for franchise starters has run out.  

post #2933 of 3585
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I think Armie Hammer's chances for franchise starters has run out.  

post #2934 of 3585
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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post
 

 

I think Armie Hammer's chances for franchise starters has run out.  

 

They said the same thing about Ryan Reynolds!

post #2935 of 3585
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They said the same thing about Ryan Reynolds!

post #2936 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

I am probably one of the few people who paid to see ENTOURAGE* in the theater, and that scene with Turtle is played towards his emasculation, which he then has to recover from by wooing Rousey. It's a fucked up movie.

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

 

 As a feminist - though you use that label, not me - I believe that (get ready to vomit if you're reading this, Cylon) patriarchy hurts everyone, and it's important to be aware of the messages we're sending to boys and men as well as to girls. Know the other perspective, so to speak.

 

 

 

You FRAUD!

post #2937 of 3585

my work here is done

post #2938 of 3585

I mean yeah, I think that whole "Patricarchy" thing is bullshit, but fucking Entourage?!!

 

I bet you're watching Ballers too. 

post #2939 of 3585

HOLY SHIT. I've not visited this thread for a few days and completely missed the news! That Boone watched the Entourage movie!

 

HOLY SHIT 

post #2940 of 3585

No.

post #2941 of 3585

A Shazam! movie could work.

 

If you hired Chris Columbus and mimicked the tone of the first two Harry Potter movies. 

 

But I still have my doubts that it or a Black Adam movie happen. If the former does, the look of the character will be drastically different than the comics so as to not draw comparisons to Superman. Adding a hoodie isn't gonna cut it.

post #2942 of 3585
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A Shazam! movie could work.

 

If you hired Chris Columbus and mimicked the tone of the first two Harry Potter movies. 

 

If they do a Shazam! movie, I hope they adapt the Clash storyline from the animated series.  I don't want to see Shazam! battling yet another cosmic super villain, have his naivete be the foil for grimdark Superman.  

post #2943 of 3585

Shazam! could be a way to inject some light and hope into the DC Verse. A 10 year old idealistic boy who turns into The Rock (yes in my version The Rock plays both Captain Marvel AND Black Adam!) to save the day. 

 

Bort has good idea. 

post #2944 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Jmacq1 View Post


Captain Marvel I give a pass to.  DC didn't create him, just bought the character years after he was created (and for a time in the Golden Age he was even more popular than Superman!)

Though I agree the character isn't terribly interesting, and tends to work much better in a DCU that's more...lighthearted than we usually see in the current comics, much less the movies thus far.

As for the Rock playing Black Adam, well...in recent years Black Adam has been a huge badass in the comics.  Basically the character they use to illustrate what happens when you have a Superman-level guy that doesn't hold back for fear of hurting others or rocking political boats.

Captain Marvel was also flying before Superman. I may have this wrong, but I don't think Superman officially *flew* until after DC acquired Captain Marvel.
post #2945 of 3585

Superman started flying because of the Adventures of Superman radio show. It was easier to do a flying sound effect than jumping. Consequently the comics incorporated it.

 

But yeah, Captain Marvel first showed up in Feb. 1940 so he was flying first in the comics.

post #2946 of 3585

Hmmm, or maybe Superman flying came from the Fleischer cartoons because they deemed his leaping "silly." Either way, he didn't start flying in the comics until 1943.

post #2947 of 3585
Probably easier to animate flying instead of having him jump several times.
post #2948 of 3585

So Shazam! is going to be directed by David F. Sandberg... Not the most obvious choice but I like it. At least he has a couple of lower budget things under his belt.

post #2949 of 3585
post #2950 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

THR says that WB is looking to ease Ben Affleck out of the Batman role.

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/ben-afflecks-batman-future-doubt-as-warner-bros-plots-franchise-future-1023296?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

I bet. It's a shame though, he was pretty good. Im betting he wants out badly.

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