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post #3001 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Analog Olmos View Post



Superman is the heart and soul of the DCU. He's optimism, idealism, and righteousness personified.

 

 

Another DC hero took that crown this summer. Maybe JL salvages the damage done to his character, maybe not, but WW is pulling weight for two. That's why she has the sequel on their slate and he doesn't. 

post #3002 of 3585

Yep. The new trailer has her literally being faster than a speeding bullet.

post #3003 of 3585
WW becoming the center of the DCEU and their "Tony Stark" could be one really nice way for them to differentiate themselves from Marvel if they'll just properly capitalize on it..
post #3004 of 3585

DC was kind of screwed from the get go. Anything they do will get compared unfavorably with Marvel. 

 

So, had they gone the "everyone gets a solo film, then JLA" route, they'd have been condemned for being copy cats. 

 

Plus, had they gone that way, the solo Cyborg and Aquaman movies would have tanked even harder than they most likely will anyway. 

 

Going (almost) straight to JLA could work if the movie works. Knowing other famously screwed up productions resulted in classics like Casablanca means I won't automatically see this movie as DOA, but nothing I've seen from the DCU to date gives me hope. 

 

Oh and Justice Dark sounds like a candy bar and will suck the bloody root. 


Edited by Cylon Baby - 7/25/17 at 3:28pm
post #3005 of 3585

The worst thing to happen to DC today was Marvel stepping up and knocking it not just out of the park, but out of orbit.

post #3006 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
 

The worst thing to happen to DC today was Marvel stepping up and knocking it not just out of the park, but out of orbit.

I feel like im going to sound really stupid but what did Marvel do today?

post #3007 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post

Plus, had they gone that way, the solo Cyborg and Aquaman movies would have tanked even harder than they most likely will anyway. 

Aquaman has a slim chance of being a mild hit. Cyborg has zero. No release schedule would change that.
post #3008 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post

I feel like im going to sound really stupid but what did Marvel do today?

No one tell him!
post #3009 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post


No one tell him!

Was it cool or......I don't understand!

post #3010 of 3585
It rhymes with more Fraggle Rock..
post #3011 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

It rhymes with more Fraggle Rock..

OHHHHH I just saw that. It looks good.......

post #3012 of 3585

Movie Bob has a theory that a Flashpoint movie could be DC's way of rebooting their shared universe, changing the tone and recasting Batman.

I am open minded for a movie that would be as off the wall as Flashpoint could be.

post #3013 of 3585
Oh, shit, they should cast Charlie Cox as the new Batman!
post #3014 of 3585
Aaaargh with the rebooting. Just stay the course you've already laid or kill the thing dead..
post #3015 of 3585

Hot take: 

 

Momoa would have been a better Green Lantern than Aquaman.

post #3016 of 3585
Which Green Lantern? There's like a million of them.

Ch'p?
post #3017 of 3585

Whichever one is human. I don't know. Hal Jordan? That's the only one I know. Him. 

post #3018 of 3585
A bunch are human, though!
post #3019 of 3585

Whichever one wants the Star War on Blu Ray. 

post #3020 of 3585

So...will Flashpoint basically be the Captain America: Civil War of the DCEU, only with alternate versions of Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman?

 

I'll admit, seeing Momoaman and Wonder Gal trying to kill each other could be fun.

post #3021 of 3585
Whatever they do, they're probably going to leave Wonder Woman largely untouched.
post #3022 of 3585
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

Whatever they do, they're probably going to leave Wonder Woman largely untouched.


Well yes, once all is said and done.  I just mean within the context of a Flashpoint movie itself, before stuff gets reset back to relatively normal.

post #3023 of 3585

Fanboys that talk about rebooting as a way of "saving" things are so silly. As if we're looking through a window into an existing universe, but we've somehow been looking at the wrong universe all this time. It was the same thing with people wanting it to be revealed that Leto Joker was Jason Todd and Lex Luthor would be replaced by Lex Sr.

 

It's the CREATORS that need to be changed in order to tell good stories. And that's already being done with Jenkins and Whedon. 

post #3024 of 3585

Sources within WB are indicating that Snyder's basically done having any substantial role in the franchise after Justice League, Ayer's probably out (his involvement in Gotham City Sirens seems up in the air, if it's even happening), and Johns and Whedon will be the primary "architects".

 

http://mashable.com/2017/07/25/zack-snyder-dc-dceu-movies-justice-league-david-ayer-gotham-city-sirens/#4BzHmIQNLkqb

post #3025 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Chaz View Post

Movie Bob has a theory that a Flashpoint movie could be DC's way of rebooting their shared universe, changing the tone and recasting Batman.


I am open minded for a movie that would be as off the wall as Flashpoint could be.

I'm just imagining Cavill weeping with joy that he can stop lifting every day for a movie. Although, just imagine if he went full Machinist-Bale and then got told they were moving up production on MOS2 to shoot in 3 months.

The poor man deserves a good Superman film. He's the best we're ever going to see for another 20 years and it's a crime against humanity that they can't just fucking write the EASIEST CHARACTER ON EARTH TO WRITE correctly for a single film.
post #3026 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

Sources within WB are indicating that Snyder's basically done having any substantial role in the franchise after Justice League, Ayer's probably out (his involvement in Gotham City Sirens seems up in the air, if it's even happening), and Johns and Whedon will be the primary "architects".

 

http://mashable.com/2017/07/25/zack-snyder-dc-dceu-movies-justice-league-david-ayer-gotham-city-sirens/#4BzHmIQNLkqb

Wow Whedon is going to be the godfather to another comic book universe? This is all going to make a really cool documentary some day.

post #3027 of 3585

Johns is being touted as the Feige equivalent of the DCU but it's weird how inchoate the whole thing feels. Be interesting to see where Whedon fits in, and if he stays with it for at least as long as he did with the MCU.

 

I'm guessing he won't.

post #3028 of 3585

Why not?

post #3029 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

Why not?

Because the suits seem to be all about fucking up the DC universe.

post #3030 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Analog Olmos View Post


MOS 2 not being scheduled means, to me, they still don't fucking get it.

Superman is the heart and soul of the DCU. He's optimism, idealism, and righteousness personified.

If you say you totally get that you messed up and you want to strike a more optimistic tone, and you DON'T have Superman at the heart of it, you Don't. Fucking. Get. It.

 

My God, THIS. 

post #3031 of 3585

Wonder Woman 2 to be released on December 13, 2019. So at least things are starting to stabilize in terms of WB understanding what's successful and what should get sequels. 

post #3032 of 3585
Don't the Star Wars movies come out in December? Seems kind of dumb to put it there.
post #3033 of 3585
It appears starting with Han Solo next year Star Wars is back in May.

So maybe DC is trying to stake out the end of the year as their own with JL, Aquaman and Wonder Woman.
post #3034 of 3585

lol JaWheed being put in charge of anything huge. 

 

Can't wait until he posts about how exhausted and frustrated he is in a couple of years! 

post #3035 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

lol JaWheed being put in charge of anything huge. 

 

Can't wait until he posts about how exhausted and frustrated he is in a couple of years! 

 

The Avengers made $1.5 billion, and cemented the MCU as the biggest franchise in the world.  But hey, what is the exact model of success your studio is trying to emulate, weighed against the possibility of a dispirited blog post 4 years down the line?

post #3036 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

 

The Avengers made $1.5 billion, and cemented the MCU as the biggest franchise in the world.  But hey, what is the exact model of success your studio is trying to emulate, weighed against the possibility of a dispirited blog post 4 years down the line?

 

You have this tendency to respond in the most serious possible way to something joking I post, and I'm the only one you do it to. What up with that? 

 

*whispers* joss whedon's also not a very good writer

post #3037 of 3585

Some jokes are just dumb.  And some "jokes" make less than no sense, because they're more about whatever neofeminist bone you have to pick rather than anything they actually reference.  

 

Also it's been a shitty week, and referring to directors by infantilized pet names is the most annoying crap on these boards.  But I should probably take that up with Nooj.

post #3038 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

Some jokes are just dumb.  And some "jokes" make less than no sense, because they're more about whatever neofeminist bone you have to pick rather than anything they actually reference.  

 

Also it's been a shitty week, and referring  to directors by infantilized pet names is the most annoying crap on these boards.  But I should probably take that up with Nooj.

 

1. It has been a shitty week. No argument there.

 

2. Yes, please, take it up with Nooj, Bart, Michael, any number of people who have spread these - amusing, at least, to me - pet names. 

 

3. My "joke" was more about the fact Whedon has this tendency to push himself to exhaustion, then blame the fact he's exhausted on everyone but himself. He routinely takes shots at the studio/the studio machine, yet chooses to participate in them. We saw it when he chose to run Angel, Buffy, and Firefly all at once. We saw it with Dollhouse. We saw it with Ultron. (Which led from Avengers 1, and SHIELD, and Whedon's involvement with Marvel from, what, the first Cap movie?) He has this pattern of stretching himself thin, fighting with the studio over his "vision," and then quitting, only to throw that studio under the bus months or years later, usually surrounding some "smaller, indie" project he's producing.

 

And - yes, you are right that he delivers; I'm a fan of Ultron and Avengers both, as well as his TV work. And now he's going from Justice League to being in charge of this whole DC shebang to possibly directing Batgirl. It seems like he's falling back into the same pattern here, and if I were a studio, desperate as I might be to save my bottom line, I might wonder if it was worth it getting into bed with Joss Whedon - who has previously slammed Fox, Universal, and Marvel. 

 

4. Point three has absolutely nothing to do with Whedon's feminism, so I don't know what the "neofeminist bone" crack is about. 

 

I hope your week improves.

post #3039 of 3585
CLOM!!!

I also hope your week improves, Schwartz!
post #3040 of 3585
I, Bort, have no idea what pet names are.

Right Freeb? MM?
post #3041 of 3585
Unfortunately, we can't really do anything with the name SCHWARTZ
post #3042 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post

 

And - yes, you are right that he delivers; I'm a fan of Ultron and Avengers both, as well as his TV work. And now he's going from Justice League to being in charge of this whole DC shebang to possibly directing Batgirl. It seems like he's falling back into the same pattern here, and if I were a studio, desperate as I might be to save my bottom line, I might wonder if it was worth it getting into bed with Joss Whedon - who has previously slammed Fox, Universal, and Marvel. 

 

 

Well, that was the point of my (more sarcastic than livid) post.  Of course it's worth a studio getting into bed with someone with literally the best track re: wildly successful superhero franchising for their own superhero franchise. We're the only ones who care about after the fact, passive-aggressive blogging.  Studios care about one and a half billion dollars.  They'd hire Victor Salva if he had one Avengers movie under his belt, without hesitation.  Of course they'd risk the vague potential for some mildly bad press for the potential to make a billion and a half dollars.  It's like, not even a question.  So much so that I started casting around for what else you could even mean, so little sense does this premise make to me.


Edited by Schwartz - 7/26/17 at 9:28am
post #3043 of 3585
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

Unfortunately, we can't really do anything with the name SCHWARTZ

 

Your unstoppable force of chibi nonsense has met its match in my twin walls of immovable consonants.  Look upon them, and despair.

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post #3045 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

 

Your unstoppable force of chibi nonsense has met its match in my twin walls of immovable consonants.  Look upon them, and despair.

you said chibi!!!

 

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post #3046 of 3585

About Whedon...

 

Boone really doesn't like Buffy season 6.

post #3047 of 3585
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

you said chibi!!!

 

 

Alack, I am slain.

post #3048 of 3585

true, but I will still call you SCHARTZ

post #3049 of 3585

I won't give you a nickname...

 

But I could say, may the you be with you.

post #3050 of 3585
Blogwartz!
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