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post #351 of 3585

See? This guy knows.

post #352 of 3585
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The fallout from Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice continues to ripple through Warner Bros.

The Burbank-based studio is making changes to the way it handles its DC Entertainment-centered films, giving oversight of the feature projects to a pair of executives and creating a dedicated division for the films. Current exec vp Jon Berg and Geoff Johns, DC's CCO who successfully launched the comics label's foray into television, will co-run DC Films, according to multiple sources. Warner Bros. declined to comment.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-v-superman-fallout-warner-895174

post #353 of 3585

Probably smart to make a dedicated division specifically for the films, but either Johns doesn't sleep between writing comics, working on the TV shows, and this, or he's drastically overburdened even with another guy there to help him.

 

It does sound like a part of this, at least, is diminishing Zack Snyder's promimence until he can be shown the door once Justice League has wrapped.  And that's all to the good.

post #354 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Michael Shaver View Post
 
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The fallout from Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice continues to ripple through Warner Bros.

The Burbank-based studio is making changes to the way it handles its DC Entertainment-centered films, giving oversight of the feature projects to a pair of executives and creating a dedicated division for the films. Current exec vp Jon Berg and Geoff Johns, DC's CCO who successfully launched the comics label's foray into television, will co-run DC Films, according to multiple sources. Warner Bros. declined to comment.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-v-superman-fallout-warner-895174

 

From the same article:

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In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie also pitted heroes against each other, but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences. So Warners is attempting a course correction. 

 

WB continuing to ignore the groundwork Marvel's done to get to this point. Other than the Iron Man films,  none of the Phase 1 films were HUGE hits. Civil War was the MCU's 13th film; WB wants to reap the profits without building the audience buy-in.

post #355 of 3585

Going with the guy who works on those awful goddamn TV series shows you exactly how low their standards are at this point.

post #356 of 3585

Even as someone who has watched nearly all of The Flash and is currently enjoying Legends Of Tomorrow, I can't really refute the above post.

post #357 of 3585

To be fair, Johns and Berlanti were never really the problems on the CW shows.  Marc Guggenheim and the gaggle of 20 writers, coupled with over long seasons and typical CW teen romance bullshit were what killed that beast.  

 

But yep, it's telling how Snyder is slowly being shuffled to the sides.

post #358 of 3585
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

Even as someone who has watched nearly all of The Flash and is currently enjoying Legends Of Tomorrow, I can't really refute the above post.

 

Yeah, having watched most of The Flash and Arrow before giving up on them a few months back, I have to agree. These CW shows are basically like the Buck Rogers or Battlestar Galacticas of their time; I don't begrudge them having found their audience of tweens and highly-forgiving geeks, but I can't see these holding up in retrospect.

post #359 of 3585
This whole Snyder thing is curiously analogous to the protracted ousting of my former boss. Shit hit the fan, he was terrified that he was going to get fired, then he was relieved that the storm had seemingly passed, then I came in one day and his desk was completely barren. Justice League feels like the miscalculated storm data.
post #360 of 3585

I wish WB all the luck in the world. Because they're going to need it.

 

They've already screwed up their two biggest DC characters and, even though Batman is salvageable, he's going to be tainted by his association with BvS for some time to come. Superman, of course, is completely fucked in a variety of ways. They have Justice League in production, overseen by the same blathering idiot who gave them their last disaster. They have Wonder Woman in production; featuring a lead actress who is somehow less capable of emoting than Nicole Kidman's botoxed face. They're stupid enough to somehow think people are going to pay for a FUCKING AQUAMAN MOVIE, and their only viable property is currently Suicide Squad which has good trailers but is directed by a man wihose filmography contains some real clunkers. 

 

If you have any lucky charms, please mail them to:

Warner Bros

4000 Warner Blvd., 
Burbank, CA 91522


Edited by MrSaxon - 5/18/16 at 3:17pm
post #361 of 3585
I'm with you Saxon, Wonder Woman has wrapped filming, and Justice League is already a month in with Snyder still at the helm.

Potentially the damage will be too far done for them to even continue.
post #362 of 3585

But it's going to be a BADASS SUPER VIOLENT AQUAMAN movie.  Which should be delightfully misguided.

post #363 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post
 

But it's going to be a BADASS SUPER VIOLENT AQUAMAN movie.  Which should be delightfully misguided.

 

Yeah, Weather Wizard is going to discover the corpse of Sportsmaster, covered in shark bites, and a note that says:

 

post #364 of 3585

At this point I'm more interested in learning what really happened with JackKnife Johnny's boss than I am with Aquaman. 

 

Batman came back from Joel Schumacher. He can survive anything!

post #365 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

But it's going to be a BADASS SUPER VIOLENT AQUAMAN movie.  Which should be delightfully misguided.
You saying Aquaman isn't actually badass super violent? Is he just Hayden Panettiere in the comics?
post #366 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

Is he just Hayden Panettiere in the comics?

Who talks to fish, yes.
post #367 of 3585

Fish?

 

post #368 of 3585
I've seen his guest appearance in Timm's JL show, he CAN be SUPER BADASS VIOLENT.
post #369 of 3585

This was the most unnecessary failure in recent history. All they had to do was not fuck up. Instead they crammed two stories into one. Re-introduced and rebooted Batman into a sequel and retcon of Man of Steel. Decided to introduce Wonder Woman, for no reason at all. They made a film with a first hour so boring that everyone will henceforth just skip past it when they buy the bluray in the dollar bin.

 

But worst of all, they failed to contrast their characters. They made them both assholes. Boring, self indulgent assholes. I don't want to spend a second with either of them. I wasn't inspired to put on a cape and run around the backyard. I wasn't inspired to learn martial arts and be a detective. If I had this movie's phone number, I would drunk text it that it never deserved me, and that I hope it dies.

post #370 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

I've seen his guest appearance in Timm's JL show, he CAN be SUPER BADASS VIOLENT.

They really Namor-ed him up on the cartoon (a characterization that took its cue from the comics of the '90s to be fair). Fun fact: the group Aquaman hung out with on JLU was a clever take-off on Marvel's original Defenders "non-team". Aquaman, Hawkgirl, Grundy, Dr. Fate = Namor, Nighthawk, Hulk, Dr. Strange.
post #371 of 3585
True, my first impression of the character was the '90s version. In fact, it was on this very issue, which also happened to be the very first comic book I ever got:





So naturally when I eventually watched SUPERFRIENDS for the first time on Cartoon Network my reaction to that clean cut guy without a hook arm was "who is this dweeb?"

I guess that's why I'm fine with Khal Drago's casting because he's closer to that 90s comic than the dork I saw in that '70s cartoon.
post #372 of 3585

It really is a tragedy we're not getting Batman: The Brave and the Bold's Aquaman as the cinematic version.  I would pay good money to see an Aquaman film starring Momoa that started like this:

post #373 of 3585
Aquaman is the kind of superhero who really suffers from being in a shared universe because his hook is inherently restrictive and therefore difficult to exploit. A writer has to constantly find ways to have him contribute in ways that are almost never as organic as they could be.

He's very much like Tarzan. That character is his setting, so if you're constantly taking him out of it and forcing yourself to find ways to utilize him in an environment that isn't germane to his character, you quickly complicate and dilute him.
post #374 of 3585
Exhibit A
post #375 of 3585
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

Aquaman is the kind of superhero who really suffers from being in a shared universe because his hook is inherently restrictive and therefore difficult to exploit

 

 

post #376 of 3585

Rick Famuyiwa (Dope) is in final negotiations to direct The Flash, replacing Seth Grahame-Smith.

 

http://heroichollywood.com/rick-famuyiwa-direct-flash/

 

I'm down with that choice.  Dope wasn't perfect, but it had enormous energy and was really fun.

post #377 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

Rick Famuyiwa (Dope) is in final negotiations to direct The Flash, replacing Seth Grahame-Smith.

 

http://heroichollywood.com/rick-famuyiwa-direct-flash/

 

I'm down with that choice.  Dope wasn't perfect, but it had enormous energy and was really fun.

 

I'm against anyone adopting one name ever making a movie. Dope. McG. Megaton. It's like hiring someone named "Asshat" and expecting them not to be one. 

post #378 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby View Post
 

 

I'm against anyone adopting one name ever making a movie. Dope. McG. Megaton. It's like hiring someone named "Asshat" and expecting them not to be one. 


Dope was his last film, it's not his name.

post #379 of 3585
I (finally) watched "Dope" on cable last month and I completely fell in love with its energy and vibe.

Too bad Famuyiwa's work in HBO's "Confirmation" was exactly the opposite. But I'm excited to see him tackle something colourful and pop-y again.
post #380 of 3585
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Dope was his last film, it's not his name.

 

Damn that ruins my hilarious post!

post #381 of 3585

Oh I loved Dope.  Compared to the last guy, this is a huge upgrade.

 

Here's to hoping I finally get a Flash on screen that I like.

post #382 of 3585

All I remember about Dope is the trailer being ridiculously obnoxious. You wanna tell me something about the plot? The characters? Maybe the humor? No, you just want to praise yourself for how cool and fly and whatnot you are? Not even with critics, you're just calling yourself awesome over and over again? And then putting in a Big Bang Theory joke as the stinger to really seal the deal?

 

Gadzooks, I'd take the Inception sound any day.

post #383 of 3585
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Too bad Famuyiwa's work in HBO's "Confirmation" was exactly the opposite. But I'm excited to see him tackle something colourful and pop-y again.

Oh, HE directed Confirmation?  

 

Did not expect that.  But I'm assuming that's the kind of job one takes as to not get pigeonholed as a maker of only a certain type of film.  Probably a savvy career move.

post #384 of 3585
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Oh, HE directed Confirmation?  

 

Did not expect that.  But I'm assuming that's the kind of job one takes as to not get pigeonholed as a maker of only a certain type of film.  Probably a savvy career move.

Given that it's a dramatic film about an important bit of recent history, he'd be crazy to turn it down. Also, it was HBO, so I'm sure the money wasn't too bad.

post #385 of 3585

Almost started a new thread about this, but given that it's not even a sure thing, though it best contained here.

 

Collider has a mess o' shit about the Justice League film, but also managed to snag some time with Affleck regarding Batman and the proposed solo Batman film he would (presumably) helm.

 

Some highlights:

 

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 One of the things fans have wanted to see is Batman using his detective skills. Affleck says in Justice League “the world’s greatest detective aspect of Batman is more present in this story than it was in the last one, and will probably be expanded upon further in a Batman movie that I would do. I think all the great Batman stories are, at their heart, detective stories.”

 

Given how many Chewers seem to think Nolan's Batman did no detecting or not nearly enough, this perhaps should be encouraging.

 

In terms of the quality of the story, it sounds like Affleck is doing what he can to push back against WB's apparent willingness to start filming when ideas aren't fleshed out:

 

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 “I think they have a date for it. Although, I don’t know if I would necessarily be able to make that date because I don’t have a script that’s ready yet. So that’s my—my timetable is I’m not going to make a movie until there’s a script that I think is good because I’ve been on the end of the things when you make movies when you have a script that’s not good yet and it doesn’t pan out.” [laughs]

 

And this:

 

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“I have a script, we’re still working on it, and I’m not happy enough with it yet to actually go out there and make a Batman movie, for which I have the highest of standards, I would say. That’s something that would have to pass a very high bar for me. It’s not just like, ‘Yeah, that might be fun, let’s go try this out.’”

 

Given Affleck's track record as a director so far, I'm comfortable trusting that he's not just blowing smoke here. Whether or not he can nudge/persuade WB into making a good film instead of one that simply meets the release date and/or sells the requisite amount of toys remains to be seen.


ETA: Source links:

 

http://collider.com/justice-league-what-we-know-so-far/

 

http://collider.com/ben-affleck-batman-movie-update/

post #386 of 3585

Geoff Johns has been promoted to President of DC Entertainment. 

 

I really, really liked Rebirth a lot so this is actually welcome news to me. Johns does get these characters.

post #387 of 3585
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Originally Posted by Codename View Post
 

Geoff Johns has been promoted to President of DC Entertainment. 

 

I really, really liked Rebirth a lot so this is actually welcome news to me. Johns does get these characters.


Ehn.

 

He's awesome on Green Lantern stuff.  Everything else?  Not so much....

post #388 of 3585
God I'm such an embarrassingly easy mark for this shit. Yeah, I'm not wild about DC following the Marvel play book but...I liked Ben Affleck as Batman...more than I ever thought I would. Suicide Squad looks cool and now, God help me, I've watched the Wonder Woman and Justice League trailers and this whole thing is becoming more and more appealing. Justice League in particular surprised me. Batman's lightened up considerably. Now I'm all jonesing for that solo Batfleck movie. The Batman movies have always been the most fun to fan cast and speculate what villains we'll be seeing. Wonder if we'll see characters like Harvey Dent again, as long as they don't try to re-create the Nolan movies, or their arcs, in any way. Keep these more fantastical. Like a TRULY immortal Ra's al Ghul (pleeeeease somebody get Mads Mikkelsen for this if Ra's ever happens). I almost wish that all of this would suck so undeniably hard that I don't care anymore just so I don't embarrass myself by going into full blown Bat-nerd mode...all over again..
post #389 of 3585
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

so if you're constantly taking him out of it and forcing yourself to find ways to utilize him in an environment that isn't germane to his character, you quickly complicate and dilute him.
Like... A fish? Out of... Water?
post #390 of 3585

Once I got past this video's obnoxious opening sequence, the subsequent discussion on how each of the current live action portrayals relates to a different comic book era Joker was actually quite thought-provoking.

 

 

post #391 of 3585

Rejoice fellow Man Of Steel fan (MichaelM, are you around?) because apparently we're getting a Man Of Steel sequel after all

 

Now they've just got to not make him shit like he was in BvS. It can't be that hard.... can it?!

post #392 of 3585
Old news, Sax.
post #393 of 3585

How so?

post #394 of 3585
This was announced back in June. Google it!
post #395 of 3585

But everyone is reporting it today like it's a new thing!

 

I'm so confused! 

post #396 of 3585
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

Rejoice fellow Man Of Steel fan (MichaelM, are you around?) because apparently we're getting a Man Of Steel sequel after all

 

Now they've just got to not make him shit like he was in BvS. It can't be that hard.... can it?!

 

I'm....mildly interested?

 

WB/DC seems to be fucking these properties up left and right, so at this point...eh. Solo Supes film should've been the follow up to MOS. As much as I liked the ultimate cut of BvS, I'm still bitter about WB apparently screwing the pooch on their DC comic properties. SUICIDE SQUAD was meant to be a bounce up from the mixed results of BvS, but even that seems to be bad news.

 

I'm glad Cavill will get a shot at the role again in a fiml centered on Supes. But I'm not real hopeful at this point.

post #397 of 3585
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

But everyone is reporting it today like it's a new thing!

I'm so confused! 

They do this shit all the time, re-report old news and count on most people having Alzheimer's.
post #398 of 3585
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They do this shit all the time, re-report old news and count on most people having Alzheimer's.

 

They're reporting news? What news? And who are you?

post #399 of 3585
Do you need assistance?

YMMV
post #400 of 3585

Just tell me who the protagonist is.

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