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Here.

 

Don't say I never gave you anything.

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My favorite part was the one involving space.

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My favorite parts so far are the ones involving a corn field... :(  And manly, manly tears. 

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Just got back from this.  This is half-transcendent, half completely and preposterously insane.  The "what" of the film's third act twist is very simple to guess (indeed, parts of it are so obvious that it feels like Nolan completely didn't give a shit about hiding them).  The "how" is just mind-bogglingly weird.  Nolan-haters are gonna shit themselves.  And weirdly, given Nolan's skill at the final moment mic-drop, this one didn't quite land that final moment.  It just feels like a weird choice, given what the film's been about all along, to end it on that particular subject.

 

That being said, when it works, it's pretty glorious.  Nolan's vision of space - the rings of Saturn, the wormhole, the alien worlds (though the second one isn't quite as fully exploited as it could be, I think) - is truly staggering, especially in IMAX (got to see it on TCL Chinese's brand-new 70mm projector, so it looked stunning).  Bill Irwin's great fun as the voice of TARS the robot.  And McConaughey - god love him - absolutely commits 100% here.  He and Mackenzie Foy are terrific together, and he grounds the whole thing emotionally when it threatens to fly off the handle.  The rest of the cast is good (including one surprise guest star), but his work really elevates it.  And as fucking out there as it gets, thematically it's rather touching.

 

Also, based on today's election results, I strongly endorse its "let's get the fuck off this planet" platform. :rimshot:

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It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places. It's incredibly powerful.

 

And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.

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I thought it was basically a pretentious "Armageddon."
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Sure you didn't just accidentally watch Deep Impact?



Enough with this non-sense though. Connery's Meteor is where it's at..
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McConaughey pretty much saves this movie by sheer force.

 

I actually really liked it, but it's definitely gonna be a film I'm gonna love discussing as opposed to seeing again.

 

I'm probably not gonna see it again.

 

Holy jesus, has Nolan and Zimmer taken the volume of their collaboration to trolling levels.  Hahahaha, I approve.  ESPECIALLY in a real IMAX theater.  Scenes of quiet just RUMBLING for reasons.

 

 

Also, the surprise guest star?  Wanted to laugh so hard at the character's monologuing, but considering that character's headspace, I let it slide.

 

(sobbing)  "I WANT GROWNUP LOVE!!!! UNGH UNGH UNGH!!!!"

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 This is half-transcendent, half completely and preposterously insane. 

And more than a little bit trite.  But with good intentions.

 

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It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places.

 

It often felt brutally chopped up.  Like it was a huge miniseries cut down to a huge movie... like Amazing Spider-Man Too!!!

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Surprise guest star's final lines made me laugh so hard.  Who says Nolan doesn't have a sense of humor?

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Surprise guest star's final lines made me laugh so hard.  Who says Nolan doesn't have a sense of humor?
Ok, who's the surprise guest star? Spoiler tag it obviously..
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You can probably look it up easily online.  I'd rather not have it here so soon and tempt someone.
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Oh ok gotcha..
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Since I'm not terribly hyped for this movie and I don't care about spoilers, I happened to see an IMDB page the other day that gave it away.  I'll spoiler this just in case, but my educated guess might be way off.

 

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 I read a draft of this thing aggggggges ago, and the Murph character was a boy.  Since that role was gender reversed for the movie, I'm guessing Chastain plays old Murph?  I wonder if that role would have been better served casting an unknown to avoid the theater wide "Jessica Chastain!!!" gasps.
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Since I'm not terribly hyped for this movie and I don't care about spoilers, I happened to see an IMDB page the other day that gave it away.  I'll spoiler this just in case, but my educated guess might be way off.

 

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 I read a draft of this thing aggggggges ago, and the Murph character was a boy.  Since that role was gender reversed for the movie, I'm guessing Chastain plays old Murph?  I wonder if that role would have been better served casting an unknown to avoid the theater wide "Jessica Chastain!!!" gasps.

 

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That's not quite it.  While Jessica Chastain does, in fact, play old Murph, that's not who I was referring to.  There's an A-Lister who shows up unexpectedly deep into Act 2 -  he's not in any of the previews so I'll go with nooj and omit his name for now.  That being said, the character was clearly being built up as a big deal from the get-go, so getting someone of that notability/caliber to play him is not surprising.

 

Also, I've read that draft as well - basically, everything after they leave Earth is drastically different.  There's no

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weird fractal plant alien thing that ends up helping save humanity

for one thing.

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Does the film's ending have

 

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huge generation ships where humans live in the future?

 

I'll remove this if I'm stepping over some kind of line but

 

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does Ellen Burstyn play old Murph in the end?
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Does the film's ending have

 

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huge generation ships where humans live in the future?

 

I'll remove this if I'm stepping over some kind of line but

 

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does Ellen Burstyn play old Murph in the end?
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No (though there is something similar - and is a fun visual callback to Inception, to boot) and yes.
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Does the film end with Coop realizing this

 

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And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.

 

When don't I?

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New drinking game: Take a pull or shot every time McConaughey says "Murph". 

 

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It's interesting how the robot in the movie is more emotionally available than director.

Nolan's idea of high emotions is just having everyone be a crybaby or turn into an asshole late in Act II for no reason.
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It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places. It's incredibly powerful.

 

And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.

Hyped. NOLAN CAN DO NO WRONG.

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Yes people.

 

Hurry up so we can gab about it.

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Oh, with the farm/cornfield setting of the early parts of the film, Zimmer's score DEFINITELY had the sound of James Newton Howard's score for SIGNS.

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It's... god, it's certainly dense. It's messy in places. It's incredibly powerful.

 

And I cried three times.  Feel free to judge me.

I can totally see someone crying a few times during the movie.  There are some great moments in the film.

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Awww, I accidentally was spoiled on the surprise Guest star reading a review.

So, what will be the most common comparison? 2001, 2010, AI, Contact, Gravity, Silent Runnings, or Saturn 3?
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For all the 2001 comparisons, there's definitely a point at which you really can't make that comparison anymore.

 

It eventually becomes more along the lines of the latter movies you listed.

 

Maybe add some SUNSHINE into it as well.

 

I would love SUNSHINE to get an IMAX re-release.


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Saturn 3?

 

Good God.

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Shit, there are three Saturn movies?
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Awww, I accidentally was spoiled on the surprise Guest star reading a review.

So, what will be the most common comparison? 2001, 2010, AI, Contact, Gravity, Silent Runnings, or Saturn 3

Nothing would make me happier than for this movie to be a big-budget spiritual successor to 2010.  Love that movie and will defend it forever.

 

Howdy from McMurdo station, Antarctica guys.  Where they will not be showing this movie, but it basically looks like the ice planet from what I've seen from the trailers.

 

From my flight in:

 

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If you see any dogs being chased by helicopters, Olmos, you run, okay?

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I'm hoping they actually show that as an orientation film.  I want to believe.

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Okay, so. The ending:

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Murph finally cracks a gravity manipulation drive, allowing all of humanity to leave Earth. And then they just hang around in space stations in our solar system? With the worm hole RIGHT THERE? And they don't send any follow up missions to the star system where the Endurance was, to try and find what happened to them? WTF?

Brand should have landed on the third planet and there should have already been a colony there waiting for her.
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Yeah, I don't get it.
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I was hoping the Nolans would've fixed that to the shooting draft. Maybe it just didn't occur to them?

 

Confession: this thread has made me re-watch ARMAGEDDON. Thanks, everyone.

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ARMAGEDDON always wins, Gracie.
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Really nothing in the history of cinema or space travel beats the scene in "Armageddon" where they have to escape from the exploding Russian space station.
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Really nothing in the history of cinema or space travel beats the scene in "Armageddon" where they have to escape from the exploding Russian space station.

 

That is probably the only scene in the movie that I like.  The rest of the film is garbage.

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Better than the snoozy Deep Impact. But only just.
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Better than the snoozy Deep Impact. But only just.

 

DEEP IMPACT is indeed snoozy, but it's also a lot more believable in terms of timeline.  Shit happens over the span of years vs the HOLY SHIT HERE COMES AN ASTEROID THAT NOBODY HAS SEEN IN A TELESCOPE FUCK WE HAVE 3 WEEKS GOOD THING WE HAVE THESE EXPERIMENTAL SHUTTLES READY FOR LAUNCH absurdity of ARMAGEDDON.

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Who watches a Michael Bay movie for believability?  If a supermodel isn't somersaulting off a skyscraper to avoid a fireball while discovering a cure for a deadly alien virus and roundhouse kicking a giant robot square in the face, I'm not even paying matinee prices.

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Confession: this thread has made me re-watch ARMAGEDDON. Thanks, everyone.

 

This confession has made me re-read Ebert's review of ARMAGEDDON.  Thanks, Virtanen.

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It still boggles my mind that Criterion added Armageddon and The Rock to its collection.
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Who watches a Michael Bay movie for believability?  If a supermodel isn't somersaulting off a skyscraper to avoid a fireball while discovering a cure for a deadly alien virus and roundhouse kicking a giant robot square in the face, I'm not even paying matinee prices.

 

I expect all these elements to be present in his upcoming Benghazi pic, to be honest.

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The "what" of the film's third act twist is very simple to guess (indeed, parts of it are so obvious that it feels like Nolan completely didn't give a shit about hiding them). 

 

This here. There's absolutely no weight given to the possibility that Murph's interloper is (are we still spoiler-tagging?)

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actually a poltergeist. Not even her dead mom?

And even after that, no weight given to the idea that

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A PREVIOUSLY UNHEARD-OF ALIEN INTELLIGENCE created the wormhole for our benefit.

Nolan's literalism is almost as smothering here as it was in Inception.

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I'd agree with all that, Hammerman.

 

And early on, I'd chalk that up to Nolan caring more about the idea of rekindling humanity's desire to explore the unknown... but that doesn't mean the stuff you call out couldn't have been given more weight.

 

The film really exposes his weakness in terms of being a dramatist.

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I'd buy that if there was a sense of mystery connected to that spirit of discovery. It's telling that the catalyst for the breakthrough is a clock.

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It's really strange, since Nolan is usually strong at establishing a sense of mystery.

 

It seems as if the whole 'save the world vs. stay with kids' dilemma had to take precedence or something.

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You can see the bones of the Spielberg movie this almost was. Big Steve never had any trouble leaving stuff unexplained.

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I wonder if this film will end up with a somewhat AI-ish response in retrospect.

 

Instead of people projecting what Kubrick would've done with AI onto Spielberg's film...

 

...some may project what Spielberg would've done with Interstellar.

 

 

Thing is, I don't think this movie leaves too much unexplained.  I didn't come out of the movie feeling that.  It's just that I felt it never really bothered setting up questions that were all that intriguing to answer in the first place.

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Maybe further down the road. Collective short-term movie memory is pretty short.

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