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post #1951 of 2785
I think the sexualized look of the Joker in this film does suggest that Ayer is honing in on the least interesting aspect of hybristophilic obsession in order to sell the idea of the relationship to dullards with no imagination. That's not to say that aesthetics has nothing to with these obsessions (see: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his groupies), but I always felt that Harley being emotionally drawn to this gangly, freakish, and overall unpleasant character as much more of a meal to bite into.

Now the Joker looks good with his shirt off.
post #1952 of 2785

I can report that I'm friends with more than one lady that thinks Leto's Joker is super hot.

 

I never thought in my life that the Joker would be a sex symbol.

post #1953 of 2785
Same. I also think he looks good. Leto is an attractive man and the character design doesn't change that so much as augment it and give him a sort of outré, rock star exoticism (again, Bowie, Marilyn Manson, etc).

I'm very likely to see this, but I will not be reading reviews or indulging in think pieces, because it's going to be a goddamn nightmare out there in the interwebs.
post #1954 of 2785

Worse than the new Ghostbusters has already made it?

post #1955 of 2785
Worse insofar as this being a film I'll actually be interested in watching and discussing on its own merit and not within the context of whatever transient social issue is in queue. With Ghostbusters: Answer the Call, the conversation around the movie (as histrionic as it has become) was always more attractive to me than the film proper.
post #1956 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post


Someone on here fancasted Tilda Swinton as the Joker years ago, and how great would that be?
That was me, mainly due to her Bowie resemblance and gangly and gaunt appearance. There's also this otherness about her. And she can wear the hell out of a suit.
post #1957 of 2785

If Bowie had been born in a later era, and was willing to commit to going all out with the role, he would have made for a stellar Joker.

 

post #1958 of 2785

Of course women find the new Joker sexy, they're pretty much unaware that's a he's a psychopathic serial killer who has mentally and physically abused Harley to the point where she's in love with him.

 

Women love the really, really, really, really bad boys!

post #1959 of 2785
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post
 

If Bowie had been born in a later era, and was willing to commit to going all out with the role, he would have made for a stellar Joker.

 

 

Can someone photoshop this with green hair , white face paint, and a purple shirt please?

post #1960 of 2785
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post #1961 of 2785

That second shot is fucking scary. Damn, he would have been awesome.

post #1962 of 2785
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post

If Bowie had been born in a later era, and was willing to commit to going all out with the role, he would have made for a stellar Joker.



He was on the shortlist for Batman '89, but I don't think he ever took a meeting.
post #1963 of 2785
He wouldn't have ever done it.
post #1964 of 2785
You can't say that to a certainty, especially in light of his gravitating towards sci-fi concepts in his work throughout the years and an alleged interest in adapting Watchmen as an opera. Also, it's easy to forget how new and interesting Tim Burton was back then.

It didn't happen and probably never came closer than his name on a sheet of paper, so it's hardly worth going round and round.
post #1965 of 2785
Well I would never argue Bowie with you.

I just feel like it's too much. Like he wouldn't want to be so on-the-nose. It seems like he was incredibly calculated with his image, he loved to subvert expectations and give people something they didn't even know they wanted. But certainly an interesting artist or storyteller could ignite a passion.

Was he ever a part of a licensed property like that?
post #1966 of 2785
Labyrinth was the closest he came to something blatantly commercial in his acting career. He may not have done Batman had they asked him because he was in a transitional period at that time in his career. He was working with Tin Machine and was desperately trying to shed the Serious Moonlight image and all of the excessively stagey big stadium pop performances he had been doing for the better part of the 80's.
post #1967 of 2785
I guess there's the Twin Peaks movie, but he wasn't playing a pre-existing character there.
post #1968 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Raynis View Post

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Too sweet

post #1969 of 2785
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

hybristophilic

 

Why you makin me Google words, Johnny?

 

Interesting word, though. I'll bet that was a word of the day on Pee Wee's Playhouse at one point.

 

Labyrinth was '86, so that would've been right before the Never Let Me Down/Glass Spider Tour era in '87. I think Tin Machine came right after that in '88.

 

Edit: Reread your post, you meant Batman (not Labyrinth) was the same time as Tin Machine, which is right.

post #1970 of 2785

Edited by MrSaxon - 7/14/16 at 10:39am
post #1971 of 2785
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post #1972 of 2785

The Youtube comments under the video are hilarious. It's a goes from "What the?" and "Is this meant to be funny?" all the way to "FUCK OFF"

post #1973 of 2785
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

The Youtube comments under the video are hilarious. It's a goes from "What the?" and "Is this meant to be funny?" all the way to "FUCK OFF"

 

I kind of went through all those emotions too, finalized with "Huh. They clearly did not film those two at the same time."

post #1974 of 2785

how presumptuous to label it VIRAL VIDEO!

 

fake it till you make it!

post #1975 of 2785

You can almost hear them thinking "This sort of thing worked well for Deadpool!" as you're watching it.

post #1976 of 2785
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

You can almost hear them thinking "This sort of thing worked well for Deadpool!" as you're watching it.

 

Someone really needs to slap the marketing department's hand and say "it's fine dammit, quit fiddlin' with it!" The thing's out in two weeks, and at this point you've seemingly gotten the lion's share of fans on your side. Why risk tipping over into backlash? 

post #1977 of 2785

Why Gronk of all people?

 

Is the overlap between comic fans and NFL fans that big to begin with?

 

Gronk makes zero sense.

 

Why not Space Ghost instead?

 

Might have actually have been funny.

 

edit:

 

Come to think of it, if cartoon Harley was the psychiatrist à la Space Ghost / Roger Rabbit, this video would have been huge.

post #1978 of 2785
Considering I ignore the NFL based on its reputation as a dog fighting and cocaine smuggling ring disguised as a sport, I had to Google Gronk. Nonsensical to say the least, unless he and Robbie are friends.

Robbie code-switching into Quinn's voice at times did make chuckle, though.
post #1979 of 2785
Well, he did say that he wanted to bang her and he's also looking for a housewife. Somehow i don't see Margot's being interested.

http://m.tmz.com/#article/2015/03/31/rob-gronkowski-i-wanna-bang-that-chick-from-wolf-of-wall-st/

And WB is like "yeah, let's bring those lovebirds together for our marketingcampaign"??

Awkward thing to do IMHO.
post #1980 of 2785

hee hee

 

So good.

post #1981 of 2785
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

how presumptuous to label it VIRAL VIDEO!

 

fake it till you make it!


I work in production. Advertising agencies are always demanding we make viral videos without understanding how going viral actually works.

post #1982 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

Why Gronk of all people?

Is the overlap between comic fans and NFL fans that big to begin with?

Gronk makes zero sense.

Why not Space Ghost instead?

Might have actually have been funny.

edit:

Come to think of it, if cartoon Harley was the psychiatrist à la Space Ghost / Roger Rabbit, this video would have been huge.

They should've put Donald Trump in his place. It'd make way more sense and you know he'd agree: it's free publicity and Robbie is definitely a 10!
post #1983 of 2785

They should have had her topless.

post #1984 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Waaaaaaaalt View Post

They should have had her topless.

post #1985 of 2785

Hey you guys wanted to know how to put asses in seats......

post #1986 of 2785
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Please please please tell me you have that as a tattoo, Johnny.

post #1987 of 2785

when I first heard about this project and the names getting cast, I thought it was going to be a trainwreck. but then the very first trailer for this had me so stoked. but then most of the marketing since then has steadily reduced my hype level to a semi-hopeful shrug.

 

which is probably for the best.

post #1988 of 2785
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Originally Posted by neil spurn View Post
 

Please please please tell me you have that as a tattoo, Johnny.

 

It would be a lovely tattoo, but no, a full body, hermaphroditic representation of Baphomet is the most "questionable" tattoo I have on my body. Now that you mention it though, I think I might just get this clown on my upper right arm. I still have a little space there.

post #1989 of 2785

Japanese Trailer

 

post #1990 of 2785

Ah, the Japanese...

 

HARLEY QUINN and everybody else

post #1991 of 2785

The Japanese know who the star of the movie is.

post #1992 of 2785

To be fair, the US promotion has been "Harley Quinn and her Suicide Squad!" as well. I didn't even know Will Smith was in this for a loooong time.
 

post #1993 of 2785

I don't think anybody really cares that Will Smith IS in this movie.

post #1994 of 2785

He hasn't hit a home run in a long time, but people fucking care that Will Smith is in this movie.

 

It probably breaks down like this in terms actor cast vs. the character they're playing and the point of attraction for audiences:

 

Will Smith > Deadshot

Joker > Jared Leto

Margot Robbie = Harley Quinn (gen. audiences)

post #1995 of 2785

Character Videos 

 

post #1996 of 2785
Did they bill Boomerang as Digger Harkness? I thought this was supposed to be Boomerang the Younger.
post #1997 of 2785
We're pretty much down to them just putting shit into a blender with this ad campaign. Some of it is fun, I guess, but I don't think I need to see anymore before the release date.
post #1998 of 2785
Yeah, I was just banished from the living room for playing the same stinger from Ballroom Blitz six times.
post #1999 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Headless Fett View Post
 

I don't think anybody really cares that Will Smith IS in this movie.

 

He's an important piece in an ensemble cast which he hasn't done since Independence Day 20 years ago. Acting in this and turning down the Independence Day sequel is probably one of his smartest career choices as of late.

post #2000 of 2785
Exactly. He can be a point of interest without carrying the film on his back. If nothing else, he certainly has less at risk than either Robbie or Leto if it doesn't turn out right.
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