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post #2351 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
 

Rolling Stone's review is harsh.

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/reviews/suicide-squad-movie-review-w432204

I already bought my ticket for a Thursday night showing, so the bad reviews aren't stopping me from making up my own mind.

 

I'm usually in agreement with Peter Travers so I'm sure he's pretty spot-on with the problems of this movie.

post #2352 of 2785
What I was getting at in my previous post is that the DC fans really shouldn't give a fuck if "normals" like the movie. It's not really going to get them laid if it has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. They should just be content to finally have a flesh and blood Harley to jerk it to.

The mass hysteria over BvS that nearly caused the space-time continuum to collapse in on itself was so bizarre to me. I liked the movie and continue to like it. The only thing that grinds my gears about the endless feedback look of critism directed at the movie is the mind-numbing nitpicking. But that bugs me about every fucking post-release thread.
post #2353 of 2785

In that case maybe Post Release threads are not for you.  That's like hating the ocean and going surfing.  

post #2354 of 2785
What I was getting at in my previous post is that Freeman's ruining movies.
post #2355 of 2785

You're right.  Doing the Death of Superman in the second Superman movie is not the movie's fault, it's mine for nitpicking.  Nitpicking that they killed Superman.

 

In the second movie.  

 

With Lord of the Rings Troll Doomsday.

 

My bad!

post #2356 of 2785
Ruining all the movies!
post #2357 of 2785

I liked the part where Freeman got mad and ruined everything for everyone.

 

He's like Harry Knowles without the sex appeal.

 

He's like Galactus but totally living in his Mom's basement having twitter wars with Reed Richards.

post #2358 of 2785

Good one!

post #2359 of 2785
Edgar Wright just put out a list of 1,000 movies that Freeman ruined.
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Sorry, I had to use a clip from a good movie :(  

post #2361 of 2785
There's a book coming out called "1,001 Movies to See Before Freeman Ruins Them (Too Late.)"
post #2362 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

What I was getting at in my previous post is that the DC fans really shouldn't give a fuck if "normals" like the movie. It's not really going to get them laid if it has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. They should just be content to finally have a flesh and blood Harley to jerk it to.

The mass hysteria over BvS that nearly caused the space-time continuum to collapse in on itself was so bizarre to me. I liked the movie and continue to like it. The only thing that grinds my gears about the endless feedback look of critism directed at the movie is the mind-numbing nitpicking. But that bugs me about every fucking post-release thread.

I understand. I tore into Man of Steel well beyond the point where I could mine new material, but that became exhausting after awhile. The worst thing about these post-releases is that too many people who have nothing interesting to say eventually begin to whittle away at every corner of a film and more often than not, start complaining about problems that either don't exist or that come from a fundamental misunderstanding of filmmaking.
post #2363 of 2785
What's up with close-ups? You can't see the actor's feet? Anyway, they took me out of the movie.
post #2364 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

You're right.  Doing the Death of Superman in the second Superman movie is not the movie's fault, it's mine for nitpicking.  Nitpicking that they killed Superman.

 

In the second movie.  

 

With Lord of the Rings Troll Doomsday.

 

My bad!

 

And they will bring him right back in the next movie he's in, Justice League. Talk about a meaningless "death". 

post #2365 of 2785
Brad, you don't have to justify why everything you like is terrible and disliked by most people.  Just rock it.  It's not like enjoying garbage movies makes you garbage.
 
I like Age of Ultron!

 

(Except for Fett.  He's pure hot garbage)

post #2366 of 2785
I like Age of Ultron.

I am garbage, tho.
post #2367 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

I like Age of Ultron.

post #2368 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

What's up with close-ups? You can't see the actor's feet? Anyway, they took me out of the movie.


I think Quentin Tarantino has hacked Bradito's CHUD log in.

 

 

I have always been in the pro-Age of Ultron camp.

post #2369 of 2785

So, anyone care to make a wager that the only DC film of the next couple of years (including this one) to get a positive RT average will be the Lego Batman movie?

post #2370 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

 

(Except for Fett.  He's pure hot garbage)

 

I have been known to be hot. Thanks Freem!

 

In your face Bradito!

post #2371 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Dent6084 View Post
 

So, anyone care to make a wager that the only DC film of the next couple of years (including this one) to get a positive RT average will be the Lego Batman movie?

I would be fairly confident in Wonder Woman, but I was super confident in this movie and now I don't know what the hell to think anymore.  

post #2372 of 2785

If Wonder Woman turns out to be a Blunder Woman then I'd say the DC Cinematic Universe will be in real trouble.

post #2373 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Headless Fett View Post
 

If Wonder Woman turns out to be a Blunder Woman then I'd say the DC Cinematic Universe will be in real trouble.

I mean, we're three movies in and despite the first two having big fans and Suicide Squad's financial success being completely up in the air right now, I think it's perfectly fair to say the DC Cinematic Universe is currently in real trouble.  This was the chosen one.  

post #2374 of 2785

Suicide Squad is almost certain to do well. Deadline has it tracking to $130 million plus this weekend.

post #2375 of 2785

Because the critical reception and hype was probably comparable, I wonder how BvS was tracking at?

post #2376 of 2785
The opening weekend will be huge but as with DC's 2 previous outings, toxic word of mouth could still kill it. A large enough second weekend drop would probably signal the death knell of the DC universe as we know it.
post #2377 of 2785

In that case, maybe they'd make some mid-budget R rated movies, Deadpool style? Pull Justice League Dark out of cold storage?

 

Sam Worthington is...Swamp Thing!

 

(he has extensive mocap experience)

post #2378 of 2785
These reviews are actually shocking. They appeared to have a handle on this one. Apparently not so much.

Rolling Stone called it limp-dick, that's pretty rough.
post #2379 of 2785

AV Club gave it a C+.

post #2380 of 2785

What the hell did you expect? Jai Courtney is in it. JAI. COURTNEY.

post #2381 of 2785

Every single Youtube review as far as I can see says "flawed but really fun I liked it a lot!"

 

It's like an ocean of Bradito's.  I guess I'll set my expectations to "don't think critically and nitpick, just enjoy."

 

I'll take a shot of morphine before the movie.  

post #2382 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

Rolling Stone called it limp-dick, that's pretty rough.

 

Rougher than saying "This botch job makes Fantastic Four look good."?

post #2383 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post
 

Rougher than saying "This botch job makes Fantastic Four look good."?

 

Ouch.

 

Saw Fan4stic for the first time last month. Boy did i make the right decision not catching this in theaters. 

post #2384 of 2785
Every major studio needs to hire someone whose sole job is to say "It's too late" when someone suggests changing a film while it's shooting.
post #2385 of 2785

In light of the reviews, this headline/article is pretty funny.

 

 

Will Smith's Suicide Squad explores nature of 'evil'

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36951329

 

 

(I guess they were pretty much forced to put the single quotes on 'evil')

 

 

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"This is different from other superhero films," says Will Smith, star of the forthcoming film adaptation of DC Comics' Suicide Squad.

 

"It's not about good versus evil. It's about bad versus evil."

 

...

 

Smith believes the film "is an exploration of the concept of redemption". "We all discussed it as a cast in rehearsals - where is the line between bad and evil?" he says.

 

"You might do bad things for good reasons, or maybe even for fun. We decided that if you are bad, you are always redeemable. It's evil that isn't."

 

 

I kind of wonder if it's like Ant-Man where we just have to take other characters' word for it re: how bad they are (i.e. it's never shown on screen).

post #2386 of 2785

I want to be the guy whose job it is to suggest reshooting every movie from scratch in a deadly toxic environment, like Tarkovsky's "Stalker".

 

"It's time to face facts, guys. "Bad Moms" is in serious trouble. None of the jokes are landing with the test audiences. We need to reshoot from page one. I can get us some great tax credits in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone."

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post #2388 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post
 

I kind of wonder if it's like Ant-Man where we just have to take other characters' word for it re: how bad they are (i.e. it's never shown on screen).

 

I see this complaint leveled at Ant-Man a fair amount, and having only seen it once: are we supposed to think he's "bad?" Didn't he break into a company that was ripping people off or something? I always thought he was more of a screw-up than an out and out bad guy in need of redemption. Conversely, this is a team of murderers and sociopaths, so if they go a similar route I can see it really coming across as forced. 

post #2389 of 2785

I usually trust Chris's take on things.

 

According to him

 

1) Jared Leto has very few scenes.

2) Very choppy editing and pedestrian action

post #2390 of 2785

For anyone familiar with British television shows (Stevehauk, are you out there?) the Telegraph's description of this movie's version of The Joker "as a kind of Halloween-themed version of Rik Mayall’s Richie, from the Nineties BBC sitcom Bottom" presents quite an amusing image. 

post #2391 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Splatoon View Post
 

 

I see this complaint leveled at Ant-Man a fair amount, and having only seen it once: are we supposed to think he's "bad?" Didn't he break into a company that was ripping people off or something? I always thought he was more of a screw-up than an out and out bad guy in need of redemption. Conversely, this is a team of murderers and sociopaths, so if they go a similar route I can see it really coming across as forced. 

Yeah Ant-Man was never bad. He stole money from a company that was fucking people over and gave it back to the people. He never killed or even hurt anyone in any real way. You would imagine he broke into some peoples homes judging by what he pulls with Douglas but they never mention anything like that. He was supposed to be a Robin Hood type I think.

post #2392 of 2785

I'm probably going to see this in the theater but man, I am bummed at this point. If the film holds true to the reviews, I'm going to start wishing WB would just shutter its DC division for a few years.

post #2393 of 2785
I'm still seeing this on Saturday. Even with the reviews it's still the only WB/DC project that has my interest.

I can't imagine what it's like in Warner Brothers at the moment. The more panicked they get, the more they will interfere, the worse the end product will be. Who knows, if BvS had been critically acclaimed we would have got a completely Ayer version of this film?

Deadpool was the proof a film that is simply allowed to be made, unmolested, can be a success. Not every tentpole needs to be focus grouped to death.
post #2394 of 2785
A friend on FB said that DC needs to stop marketing movies they didn't actually make. Me? I think that means the marketing team is actually doing their job, even if the actual creative team hasn't.

I don't really have anything invested in these flicks beyond the occasional hope that one of these things might deliver compelling cinema.
post #2395 of 2785
A lot of it comes down to these characters and whether you're invested beforehand going in. The feeling of "I can't believe they did a small character beat with (obscure character I like) and got it right" will definitely boost spirits at a theatrical viewing.

Like Brad was saying, "OMG it's Harley Quinn for reals" will be this summer's version of "Rocket and Groot look right."
post #2396 of 2785
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post
 

For anyone familiar with British television shows (Stevehauk, are you out there?) the Telegraph's description of this movie's version of The Joker "as a kind of Halloween-themed version of Rik Mayall’s Richie, from the Nineties BBC sitcom Bottom" presents quite an amusing image. 

 

If anyone over here recognized Rik Mayall's name it would most likely be because of the terrible comedy DROP DEAD FRED.

 

I did actually see an episode of Bottom when I visited England in 1993. I found it very funny.

post #2397 of 2785

Film hasn't even opened or failed to perform yet and autopsies are already being published:

 

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squads-secret-drama-rushed-916693

 

From the article, more confirmation that WB simply does not have its shit together re: the DCCU.

post #2398 of 2785
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Originally Posted by littlenomad View Post

What the hell happened to THIS one??

Just a thought, but could maybe the people who put together the DC trailers be put in complete charge of one of these projects? They sure know how to create a damned good movie in the space of two minutes. The Suicide Squad trailers were fantastic. Even my 64 year-old mother wanted to see it.

 

Interestingly, the Hollywood Reporter article that Michael links to above seems to say that is almost what happened here... at least as far as editing as concerned.

post #2399 of 2785
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Originally Posted by flint View Post

Interestingly, the Hollywood Reporter article that Michael links to above seems to say that is almost what happened here... at least as far as editing as concerned.
Yep.
post #2400 of 2785

They've apparently given Geoff Johns the equivalent role of Kevin Feige, but I remain skeptical. WB seems to be almost Trumpian these days: from the outside, they appear to be sabotaging their own efforts at success, with each new decision making things worse rather than better.

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