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post #2551 of 2785
Don't ignore my prompt reply, Norman!!!!
post #2552 of 2785
I'm sorry. I left a message in the rep section but I guess I should've answered more directly. Yeah, that strikes me as odd but it helps to set my expectations appropriately.

I wonder if more Joker is what the original version entailed..
post #2553 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post
 

Which movies can Execs point to (WB or otherwise) as examples where re-shoots and parachuting in a new editor or director actually saved the movie and successfully averted a flop?


 World War Z somehow made money...bleeeeeccchhhhhh. Marc Forster got kicked to the curb on that one. He presumably got paid, though, so everyone wins (except people who sat through the movie).

 

Also, we were talking about Tony Gilroy in the Rogue One and Jason Bourne thread. He helped piece together The Bourne Identity after Liman left the project.

 

One the less succesful side of things, I've always been intrigued by "The Invasion" from 2007 (Nicole Kidman 'Body Snatchers' remake). WB apparently brought in the Wachowskis to rework the ending, which isn't the sort of thing they usually do. Wachowskis associate James McTeigue is listed as uncredited 2nd director on IMDB. I tried watching the movie, but lost interest before I could get to the reworked ending, haha.

post #2554 of 2785
Quantum of Solace is aight!

Sort of.

To some folks.

Maybe.

Anyways it's ok DESPITE Forster not because of him..
post #2555 of 2785
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

That sounds like the plot of a My Little Pony movie.
You really need to see Guardians of the Galaxy
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

With Gareth Edwards...and this is purely speculation...maybe what he made just didn't feel enough like "Star Wars" for Disney..
this is the first I've heard of this. What's the scoop?
post #2556 of 2785
I don't know too much about it other than Rogue One has apparently gone through much more reshooting than would be considered normal. I don't know more because I've been purposely avoiding too much info on it (which is what I do with everything I'm liable to wanna watch) so as to leave it as much in the dark as possible..
post #2557 of 2785
Ah ok. I haven't ventured into the pre-release thread in a while. Trying to go into this a bit more in the dark than I did with Force awakens
post #2558 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

I don't know too much about it other than Rogue One has apparently gone through much more reshooting than would be considered normal. I don't know more because I've been purposely avoiding too much info on it (which is what I do with everything I'm liable to wanna watch) so as to leave it as much in the dark as possible..


 The Celebration footage made Rogue One look more like a gritty war/men on a mission movie, than a fun  adventure in space. I still have reason to believe that Rogue One hasn't been ruined by studio interference.

post #2559 of 2785
Nah, I dug this film!

It sure does feel choppy. You may get some whiplash in the first half, as there is literally no grace in setting it all up. But it gets the job done. The style permeates the whole thing and kept me in good spirits. And once the ball gets rolling it has a lot of fun.

And I love this Joker, sorry. He's very gleeful in the madness. When he lets loose, he's overjoyed and laughing, something you don't really see in other films.
post #2560 of 2785
Not to market myself, but I created a Post Release thread in which I further wrote my thoughts on the film in an almost entirely spoiler-free manner.

I'm pretty sure I give away no plot points and/or surprises in the film so, people still on the fence about watching this in theatres might wanna take a look.

5 hours later, I like it more than I did right after it ended. That's a good thing.
post #2561 of 2785
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The action in BvS is far superior to anything in AOU, the Hulk/Stark fight maybe excepted. 

Sorry I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Age of Ultron was perfectly fine in the action department, it just felt like we had seen all those tricks before more or less. But as far as how it was staged and shot? Absolutely hands down better than BVS. No question about it. That movie is just utterly forgettable in every sense.

post #2562 of 2785

 AOU's action for the most part is better than BvS. BvS's warehouse fight is awesome and Batman vs Superman is good, but the Doomsday fight is just an CGI overload. AOU has The Hulk vs Hulkbuster and that slow mo shot of all seven Avengers fighting Ultron's army is sweet.

post #2563 of 2785
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Originally Posted by andrevellozo View Post

5 hours later, I like it more than I did right after it ended. That's a good thing.

 

Andre, your positivity over the movie has probably tipped me toward "I WILL see it" when I was starting to sway in the direction "I WON'T see it". 

 
By the way, one of my mother's absolute favorite things are chocolate-covered Brazil nuts. She only eats these once a year, at Christmas, and I always make sure to buy her a luxury box from Marks & Spencers in December. If I find out that you've lied to us about this movie, Andre, I will not be making that purchase this year in protest. 
 
All I'm saying is: Think about your country's nut industry, Andre.  

Edited by MrSaxon - 8/4/16 at 10:48am
post #2564 of 2785
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By the way, one of my mother's absolute favorite things are chocolate-covered Brazil nuts.

post #2565 of 2785

Yeah, yeah. Laugh it up, buddy. I'm removing your N again, Freema. You need to earn it back now.

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post #2567 of 2785

This means war!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is one of the few Tom Hardy movies I've never seen.

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post #2569 of 2785
It kind of boggles my mind how folks think BvS is THAT bad. It's not THE GREATEST thing ever for sure but boy is it weird. I would think that at least would still win a movie some points. The Knightmare sequence alone is pretty out there for a movie of this size..
post #2570 of 2785
It's not THAT bad. It's theatrical cut is structurally fucked and there's bad things about it that we've gone over endlessly as a movie as well as positives.

Where it truly fails is as a DC Universe movie. People are really getting burned by DC wanting to do challenging/dumb things with their favorite characters. If the two leads felt like their characters I bet the reception would have improved vastly.

I hear the third act of this film is bad. Fan4stic bad I've heard several times.
post #2571 of 2785
I won't give it 5 stars but the R rated cut has my full endorsement. Unless you just HATE HATE HATE the theatrical I think it's much more smoothly paced...I'd love to hear more thoughts on it..
post #2572 of 2785
I'll watch it eventually! Honest!
post #2573 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

It kind of boggles my mind how folks think BvS is THAT bad. It's not THE GREATEST thing ever for sure but boy is it weird. I would think that at least would still win a movie some points. The Knightmare sequence alone is pretty out there for a movie of this size..

 

It's that bad. 

post #2574 of 2785
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Originally Posted by felix View Post
 

Ouch. Todd VanDerWerff thinks its worse than BVS.

 

 

Suicide Squad is a slog of a movie. It’s the same piano key being struck at exactly the same volume, and exactly the same rhythm, for two hours. It’s a big bowl full of lukewarm gruel.

 

Damn.

Rating


post #2575 of 2785
Re: Splatoon
So is my taste!

But really Splatoon...I doubt the R rated cut would win you over. You don't seem anywhere NEAR the fence. But...as always, I respect your opinion..
post #2576 of 2785
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Originally Posted by felix View Post
 

Ouch. Todd VanDerWerff thinks its worse than BVS.

 

Pull-quote:

 

"Suicide Squad’s id seems to be a 14-year-old boy who’s too scared to shop at Hot Topic, so he checks out Spencer Gifts instead."

post #2577 of 2785
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Re: Splatoon
So is my taste!

But really Splatoon...I doubt the R rated cut would win you over. You don't seem anywhere NEAR the fence. But...as always, I respect your opinion..

 

Probably not since that's the version I saw. I'm actually kind of curious as to whether seeing the theatrical version first as I'd originally intended might have softened my opinion somewhat but...I'm guessing no. That said, while I enjoy snarkin' as much as the next guy, I will (almost) never throw true shade at anyone's taste in films as I've definitely been on the flip side. Hell, I wish I'd liked the damn thing, I spent 8-9 hours watching it!

 

On topic though, just looking at the trailers I really can't see this being THAT much like BvS, so I'm still going to go in with an open-mind and hope for a Warcraft-esque pleasant surprise. 

post #2578 of 2785
Oh well then I suppose it DEFINITELY won't...I dunno why I assumed that you hadn't. Bad to just assume stuff.

I didn't bother with Warcraft...mostly because I have ZERO knowledge of the game. So, it just didn't strike the way that things like Super Mario Bros, Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat did...even though I'm almost positive it's probably better than those..
post #2579 of 2785

Well, Chris Bumbray from Joblo.com gave it a positive review (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/review-suicide-squad-171-03). He's generally a pretty sensible reviewer: 

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It’s occasionally messy, but it’s also quite dynamic at parts and Robbie’s heroine is one of the most exciting to hit the big-screen in years.

What are the chances of this movie getting a proper director's cut, seeing as the story is that the studio fucked this one over? If they let Snyder get one, why can't this one? I'd at least like to see what Ayer originally wanted.

post #2580 of 2785

if the Ayers and WB cut are as different as it sounds, this may be a Exorcist: The Beginning vs. Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist sort of situation.

 

But since they scrambled to play up the BvS Ultimate Edition, maybe they'll prop up the Ayers cut for video release as the harder-edged version or something.

post #2581 of 2785

Oh they're totally going to release an Ultimate Cut with this. 

 

Jesus WB, it's like shooting yourself in ONE foot wasn't enough. 

post #2582 of 2785
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Ouch. Todd VanDerWerff thinks its worse than BVS.

 

"Robbie’s hot pants were apparently digitally shortened to cup her rear that much tighter"

 

This has got to be a joke.

post #2583 of 2785

Also: I'm surprised to see so much hatred for Leto's Joker everywhere ("less like the greatest supervillain of all time and more like a Let's Make A Deal contestant who’s gotten really into his costume" says the above review, whilst You-Know-Who calls him "the worst version of The Joker yet" and "fucking insufferable"). The marketing was really winning me over with him.

post #2584 of 2785

Ah, but ultimately, he is Leto. Satisfying to no one. 

post #2585 of 2785
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The first glimpse most viewers got of Suicide Squad — via a photo released in April 2015 — featured Jared Leto’s leering Joker, laughing, the word "Damaged" tattooed across his forehead. The image was roundly mocked for being way, way too over-the-top and (dare I say it) emo, but the Warner Brothers marketing machine quickly shoved that down the memory hole in favor of far more stylish trailers and press stills.

But guess what? That was the perfect introduction to a movie that seems like it would probably miss the fact that Fight Club is meant to feature satire.
Hahaha, beautiful.
post #2586 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post
 

Ah, but ultimately, he is Leto. Satisfying to no one. 

 

I don't know why but the way you've phrased this made me chuckle. 

post #2587 of 2785
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

Also: I'm surprised to see so much hatred for Leto's Joker everywhere ("less like the greatest supervillain of all time and more like a Let's Make A Deal contestant who’s gotten really into his costume" says the above review, whilst You-Know-Who calls him "the worst version of The Joker yet" and "fucking insufferable"). The marketing was really winning me over with him.

He's not THAT bad but he's not great either. Leto seems to be alternating impressions of Nicholson and Ledger, but he never comes across as dangerous or scary. As it is, he's just a gangster wearing colourful makeup.

Bland, but not egregious or insufferable, especially since he's not in the movie that much at all. If he'd been in it longer, maybe he'd be grating, I don't know.

Another thing that came to mind just now: this film has A LOT of s-bombs for a PG-13 rating. I'm pretty sure the only time they drop an F, though, is during the crappy song that plays during Harley's origin flashback.
Edited by andrevellozo - 8/4/16 at 9:48am
post #2588 of 2785
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post

"Robbie’s hot pants were apparently digitally shortened to cup her rear that much tighter"

This has got to be a joke.

The story making the rounds today is that the digital alterations to Robbie's hot pants were done to cover more skin for the trailer, because the actual pants showed too much of her ass for the trailer to be shown to general audiences.



I'll probably see this.
post #2589 of 2785
It was those damn Mystery Men and their shrink ray!
post #2590 of 2785

[insert obligatory joke about Expando Ray when viewing the unaltered hot pants on Ms. Robbie]

post #2591 of 2785
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Originally Posted by felix View Post
 

Ouch. Todd VanDerWerff thinks its worse than BVS.

 

This review is ten times as obnoxious as the actual movie. The old refrain of, "Well, if you don't like it, I'd like to see you do better!" is obviously horseshit, but it's hard to not reach for at least a version of that when the critic cops such a sneering, haughty, tut-tutting, "It would've been just so EASY to make this work if only they'd listen to someone like me," attitude. 

post #2592 of 2785
Calum Marsh:

"It’s such a profoundly bad time at the movies that you wonder if you ever had a good time at them before, or whether you’re likely to have a good time at them again."
post #2593 of 2785

The negativity makes me want to watch this even more.

post #2594 of 2785
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Calum Marsh:

"It’s such a profoundly bad time at the movies that you wonder if you ever had a good time at them before, or whether you’re likely to have a good time at them again."


I used to write with his dude and this is exactly the type of stuff that'd make me look at him and say, "Really, Calum? Really?"

post #2595 of 2785
Will this be the movie that breaks me and turns me into Freeman?
post #2596 of 2785

I'm not sure even Humpty Dumpty's that broken.

post #2597 of 2785
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Originally Posted by PeJota View Post
 

The negativity makes me want to watch this even more.


yeah, I mean, somehow my enthusiasm to see it hasn't been dampened at all. weird. wonder if the general public will be the same. even if WOM is horrible seems like enough people want to see it, even if just once, that it could do well.

 

at least now I know to expect a movie that feels chopped seven ways to Sunday, though the scene clips already kind of hinted at that. all the other complaints I've seen have kind of seemed like stuff we already knew about the movie.

post #2598 of 2785
I'll see it at the drive-in. Even movies that stink aren't so bad at the drive-in.
post #2599 of 2785
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I used to write with his dude and this is exactly the type of stuff that'd make me look at him and say, "Really, Calum? Really?"
You can't say he lacks passion!
post #2600 of 2785
I've seen movies that are like encounters with Dementors, where you feel like you'll never be cheerful again.
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