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post #2651 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Agentsands77 View Post

I think many film critics are fed up with watching superhero flicks and this film is functioning like a magnet for all their negative feelings.

Having just returned from the theater, I was going to say precisely the same thing. This is a genre that's getting confident enough to branch out and try new angles, but critics are hoping each new comics property will be Steel or Meteor Man, the bomb that puts the genre back into hibernation.
post #2652 of 2785
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No Freebird that's Marvel!

I really do like DC as much as Marvel!  That's why it's so very upsetting to see the movies haven't found their stride.  

post #2653 of 2785
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I really do like DC as much as Marvel!  That's why it's so very upsetting to see the movies haven't found their stride.  

 

I think they should try to find their own voice instead of either doing the polar opposite of Marvel or copying their formula (the current trend).

 

There's more than two ways to go about it, right?

 

Surely DC movies don't have to be one or the other -- ersatz Marvel movies or crazy Sturm and Drang filled epics.

post #2654 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Reasor View Post

This is a genre that's getting confident enough to branch out and try new angles
Eh, compared to the stuff we were seeing from 2002-2009, the genre seems positively stagnant.

If it isn't already obvious, I'm fairly sympathetic to film critics' exasperation with the state of the genre.
post #2655 of 2785
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I think they should try to find their own voice instead of either doing the polar opposite of Marvel or copying their formula (the current trend).

 

There's more than two ways to go about it, right?

 

Surely DC movies don't have to be one or the other -- ersatz Marvel movies or crazy Sturm and Drang filled epics.

Man of Steel and Dawn of Justice are clearly sort of experimenting to find their own voice.  Steelman is half Nolan half Mallick, and Dawn is more full on Snyder by way of Watchmen big epic.  I appreciate the ideology behind the two approaches, and it's a shame it didn't work.  Dawn of Justice as this epic, gorgeous, mature long epic in the vein of Watchmen is certainly there if you squint and ignore the bad.  There's a diamond in that ocean of dreadful crap.  

post #2656 of 2785

Just saw this, posted my review in the Post thread. It's good. I'd say, go see it if you like comic book movies.

post #2657 of 2785
Is Jai Courtney as much a miracle as the trailers made him out?
post #2658 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bill View Post

They were pretty different in tone; maybe the shift came a lot later than we thought.

Odd, because Guardians of the Galaxy came out the same year they announced this film.

You'd think replicating that tone would have been their aim from the outset.
I get the impression that their initial line of reasoning was "okay, Guardians was a success, so we'll dust off that project with a team of antihero B-listers and do that, but, y'know, all gritty, because that's how Real Filmmakers do it," only then BvS got a bad reception from a number of corners and they started panicking and decided to do a last-minute hard-to-port course-correction into Quirky Quip Land.
post #2659 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

Is Jai Courtney as much a miracle as the trailers made him out?


He is good.

post #2660 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

Is Jai Courtney as much a miracle as the trailers made him out?

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He is good.

He's pretty fun. And he gave me massive shoulder envy in his tank top/shirtless scenes.

But yeah, he makes a nothing-character (take him out of the narrative and the plot would happen the same way) enjoyable to watch.

You can kinda say that about most of the film's supporting cast.
post #2661 of 2785
It's my favorite Jai Courtney, by a great measure.
post #2662 of 2785
Thread Starter 

Watching this bounce between 28% and 27% on Rotten Tomatoes is probably entertaining me more than this movie will.  

 

I wonder what's going to happen when, after setting a record opening for August, it plummets 70% or maybe more in its second weekend. 

 

Wonder Woman is almost a full year away from release.  That's a lot of time for WB executives to get to tinkering on that too.  Tee hee hee!

post #2663 of 2785
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It's my favorite Jai Courtney, by a great measure.

 

Have you seen him in The Water Diviner?

 

I swear, it's his Australian accent. The minute he gives up on putting an American one on, he's a different person.

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post #2665 of 2785
Oh, China!
post #2666 of 2785
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Wonder Woman is almost a full year away from release.  That's a lot of time for WB executives to get to tinkering on that too.  Tee hee hee!

Studio Exec: Well, Doctor Strange was popular. Put some magic portals into the battle scenes. Also, more jokes! Wonder Woman should throw a couple of pies.
post #2667 of 2785
It's crazy. I wasn't shocked by the scathing reviews of BVS because there was already a three year hate campaign against it boiling. This one seemed to have more goodwill as it lead up to release that we all assumed it would be among the saving graces of Summer 2016, but then there's a total 180 reaction to it.

No hope.
post #2668 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

It's crazy. I wasn't shocked by the scathing reviews of BVS because there was already a three year hate campaign against it boiling. This one seemed to have more goodwill as it lead up to release that we all assumed it would be among the saving graces of Summer 2016, but then there's a total 180 reaction to it.

No hope.

I think a lot of it comes from hype. That's the difference between this and Deadpool, two films that very much operate in the same "we gotta sell shirts at Hot Topic" pool: Deadpool basically shocked the shit out of everyone by making a lot of money and being good; Suicide Squad is following on the heels of Deadpool, and I think a lot of people were expecting something more like Deadpool (or something else) and less Marvel.

 

Seeing this in an hour. I'm really interested in how I'll feel about it.

post #2669 of 2785
I like how your way of saying people have been let down by the film is because it's "like marvel." Honestly, it would do this movie some good to be much much more like Marvel.
post #2670 of 2785
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That's the difference between this and Deadpool, two films that very much operate in the same "we gotta sell shirts at Hot Topic" pool: Deadpool basically shocked the shit out of everyone by making a lot of money and being good;

 

It certainly made a lot of money. I wouldn't call it good.

post #2671 of 2785
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It certainly made a lot of money. I wouldn't call it good.

 

I tried watching it on VOD after seeing it in a packed theater (which was loving every minute) and it's not the same movie.

 

It's better than most superhero movies in that it was watchable the first time.

post #2672 of 2785
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I tried watching it on VOD after seeing it in a packed theater (which was loving every minute) and it's not the same movie.

 

It's better than most superhero movies in that it was watchable the first time.

 

Right around the time Ryan Reynolds starts babbling about Meredith Baxter-Birney and Dutch ovens, I went into "Fuck this movie" mode. It's 106 minutes of bad outtakes.

 

The only thing I liked about it is Colossus. That Colossus should be moved into the humorless and boring X-Men movies. He's hilarious.

post #2673 of 2785
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Right around the time Ryan Reynolds starts babbling about Meredith Baxter-Birney and Dutch ovens, I went into "Fuck this movie" mode. It's 106 minutes of bad outtakes.

 

The only thing I liked about it is Colossus. That Colossus should be moved into the humorless and boring X-Men movies. He's hilarious.

 

I agree 100% about Colossus.

post #2674 of 2785
Disagree. It seems like a different movie at home with a smaller audience...but it's still the best Superhero movie to come out this year. Civil War very much included.
post #2675 of 2785
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Disagree. It seems like a different movie at home with a smaller audience...but it's still the best Superhero movie to come out this year. Civil War very much included.

 

I'm with you. It just didn't hold up as well compared to the theater experience I remember.

 

It tried something different and pulled it off.

 

I'm still looking forward to the sequel.

post #2676 of 2785
Deadpool is good, though not good enough that I'd pay for a bluray full price.

However...it's better than Civil War.
post #2677 of 2785
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Deadpool is good, though not good enough that I'd pay for a bluray full price.

However...it's better than Civil War.

 

Yeah. Keep telling yourself that while pretending BvS isn't hot garbage.

post #2678 of 2785

I haven't seen BvS but I watched the warehouse scene and while struck how oddly and wildly inappropriately violent this Batman is, it did make me think that DC would probably do well to make one of their movies a relatively uncomplicated comic book action flick (but with a good villain), maybe with a budget in the $70-100 million range, and get someone likes the director from The Raid movies to make it. and then don't groupthink and focus group it to death. just LET IT BE. market it well but don't aim for oversaturation or endless tie-ins, just some choice trailers and wisely placed TV spots. maybe, just maybe, they'd have a hit on their hands and make a tidy profit!

 

maybe easier said than done but it doesn't seem that difficult. and it seems a hell of lot easier and more sensible than what they are doing. Nolan was ambitious and tried to do a lot of different things with his Batman movies, but then it's like DC kept trying to do that with filmmakers who aren't nearly as competent at their craft or storytelling and now they are just getting in their own way because of desperate measure to try to make their expanded universe work and be successful.

post #2679 of 2785
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Yeah. Keep telling yourself that while pretending BvS isn't hot garbage.
Deadpool is better than Civil War but it's close. And BvS for all its problems...isn't "hot garbage".
post #2680 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Headless Fett View Post

Yeah. Keep telling yourself that while pretending BvS isn't hot garbage.

We can count on each other when it truly matters. When people are trying to claim BVS isn't hot garbage.
post #2681 of 2785
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We can count on each other when it truly matters. When people are trying to claim BVS isn't hot garbage.

 

So you're like Scientologists then? That makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

post #2682 of 2785
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So you're like Scientologists then? That makes a lot of sense when you think about it.

...  Huh?

post #2683 of 2785

 I wouldn't call BvS hot garbage just because at least Affleck is good in it. 

post #2684 of 2785

Just because he's Batman, if he was anyone else you wouldn't hesitate to call it what it is.

post #2685 of 2785

 From the beginning I said there where things I liked about BvS, and yeah most of them where Batman related. Non Batman things I liked where Perry White was good, what little bit of Wonder Woman I saw was good, and here theme music rocks!

post #2686 of 2785
I've totally 180'd on her theme. It's awesome.

But Perry White was good? I mean talk about reaching for compliments.
post #2687 of 2785
I really liked Civil War. Saw it twice. But I get the feeling that some of you guys, who are ostensibly so bothered by it, care about it way more and have spent so much more energy thinking about than I have. To each his own, but this all just seems so exhausting, to a casual observer. If you hate sky portals so much, why not watch stuff like Mustang or Embrace of the Serpent? They're supposed to be great!
post #2688 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Arjen Rudd View Post

I really liked Civil War. Saw it twice. But I get the feeling that some of you guys, who are ostensibly so bothered by it, care about it way more and have spent so much more energy thinking about than I have. To each his own, but this all just seems so exhausting, to a casual observer. If you hate sky portals so much, why not watch stuff like Mustang or Embrace of the Serpent? They're supposed to be great!

Wait sky portal in Civil War?  Or this movie?  I thought you hated this movie?  I'm confused.  

post #2689 of 2785
I haven't seen it. I doubt I'll have strong feelings one way or the other.

And seriously, if this tribal contrarianism is making everyone happy, far be it from me to scold anyone. I just think it's obvious that most of you guys love all of these movies.
post #2690 of 2785

Oh I love all of this stuff.  I LOVE things in Man Of Steel and BvS.  You can only truly feel hate for something you love, otherwise the disappointment would be a trivial, easily ignored meaningless thing.  If that were the case there would be no conversation, and who comes to a film board to hang out and NOT indulge in trivial conversation?

post #2691 of 2785
Well, sir, I for one come to cast remakes of old genre films, competitively. But hey, I'm kind of high brow.
post #2692 of 2785

Wanna find another thread and talk about Edgar Wright's 1000 great films?  It's a great list!

post #2693 of 2785
You know what? I do!

As you were!
post #2694 of 2785
Rats...may have to miss my show tonight. Cops have our neighborhood closed off while they hunt for a guy that ran during a traffic stop.

Won't have a chance to see it until next weekend if I do.

Shit...
post #2695 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post

Oh I love all of this stuff.  I LOVE things in Man Of Steel and BvS.

O.o
post #2696 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

O.o

I'm taking your advice coach I'm loving everything I can get my hands on. Hug me.
post #2697 of 2785
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post

Oh I love all of... Man Of Steel and BvS.
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https://youtu.be/TUeY5V8A9LM?t=75

post #2699 of 2785

i am accompanying my friend who is a really big dc fan to watch suicide squad, is there any kind o information i should be aware of before i watch this?

post #2700 of 2785
Enchantress is uncontrollable, Boomerang is a constant coward/dick, Deadshot is a good gun person, Harley Quinn is the Joker's sex doll...
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