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Edited by dilla7 - 1/26/15 at 10:58pm
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Almost forgot about this thread:

 

 

Also, yeah that Kendrick track is good. Much better than "I"

post #54 of 94

Improbably, Dr Dre's third and allegedly final album Detox Compton: A Soundtrack came out today. And it's... good? No, really.

post #55 of 94

Thanks for bumping this. Compton slaps, all the features are inspired. 

 

Dre certainly is dedicated to the terrorizing women thing. Money hasn't changed him!

Jesus Christ tho that was a hugely unnecessary interlude. Ugh. 

Everything else is great.

post #56 of 94

Anyone else getting a little tired of the whole Killer Mike/Bernie Sanders thing?  I mean, I like when rappers get political, but once you start actively campaigning for a candidate...I don't know...

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It's disappointing. I am a big fan of RTJ and Mike specifically (hate his verse on the Whole World tho, its garbage), and have no problem with him articulating his support of a candidate. Attacking another candidate like that is some bullshit, and quite another thing.

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It's disappointing. I am a big fan of RTJ and Mike specifically (hate his verse on the Whole World tho, its garbage), and have no problem with him articulating his support of a candidate. Attacking another candidate like that is some bullshit, and quite another thing.

 

I agree, I like him.  I think he is very smart and articulate.  I just think that once you start taking an actual political stand as in backing a candidate, I don't know, you kind of up the chances of getting yourself in hot water. 

 

To quote RTJ (El-P's lyric):


Any cow that is sacred will get defaced

Like any tyrant gets replaced

Face it

The fellows at the top are likely racists

 

Personally, I don't really have a strong opinion about Bernie Sanders.  I think he has some good ideas, seems like a good guy...but then so do all politicians.  I guess my issue is more with this becoming so much of a focus for him.  Like, I follow him on Twitter and all day it is about Bernie Sanders.  My thought is, if Sanders does get elected and can't come through with any of these changes that he is setting himself up to be looked at negatively.  I don't know, just seems like if you write music about how much the government sucks, seems odd to jump right into being a part of it.   I know he has not been shy about wanting to run for and office at some point, and that is cool, I guess.

 

Kind of like when you find out an actor you love is actually a right-wing nut job.  Somethings, maybe, I don't want to know. ha.  I think Killer Mike's intentions are good.  Not quite sure why I find it so annoying.

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I agree, I like him.  I think he is very smart and articulate.  I just think that once you start taking an actual political stand as in backing a candidate, I don't know, you kind of up the chances of getting yourself in hot water. 

 

To quote RTJ (El-P's lyric):


Any cow that is sacred will get defaced

Like any tyrant gets replaced

Face it

The fellows at the top are likely racists

 

Personally, I don't really have a strong opinion about Bernie Sanders.  I think he has some good ideas, seems like a good guy...but then so do all politicians.  I guess my issue is more with this becoming so much of a focus for him.  Like, I follow him on Twitter and all day it is about Bernie Sanders.  My thought is, if Sanders does get elected and can't come through with any of these changes that he is setting himself up to be looked at negatively.  I don't know, just seems like if you write music about how much the government sucks, seems odd to jump right into being a part of it.   I know he has not been shy about wanting to run for and office at some point, and that is cool, I guess.

 

Kind of like when you find out an actor you love is actually a right-wing nut job.  Somethings, maybe, I don't want to know. ha.  I think Killer Mike's intentions are good.  Not quite sure why I find it so annoying.


Considering that Sanders hopes to burn the whole thing down, Killer Mike teaming up with him makes perfect sense.

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Considering that Sanders hopes to burn the whole thing down, Killer Mike teaming up with him makes perfect sense.


Kind of my point.  If the Republicans have majorities in the House and the Sentate, Sanders will run into the same issues Obama did.  I remember him promising Universal Healthcare as well during his campaign and that... went well.  Just wondering if Mike is setting himself up for a backlash.  If you notice, El-P has been quite quiet on the subject.

 

Also, interesting to call out Hillary, when there is probably a good chance they will be running mates once the nominee is chosen.

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I'm still completely baffled by the hype for Kendrick Lamar. Especially in light of the recent Grammy performance. I mean, his lyrics are pretty good, I give him that. But from a technical point of view? He doesn't do much with his voice, he does neither have great flow nor does he come up with wordplay. Lacks memorable beats, never heard one solid hook. He seems like a great storyteller, but as for music?

 

Please enlighten me.

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I'm still completely baffled by the hype for Kendrick Lamar. Especially in light of the recent Grammy performance. I mean, his lyrics are pretty good, I give him that. But from a technical point of view? He doesn't do much with his voice, he does neither have great flow nor does he come up with wordplay. Lacks memorable beats, never heard one solid hook. He seems like a great storyteller, but as for music?

 

Please enlighten me.


Have..have you listen to any of his albums?

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I'm still completely baffled by the hype for Kendrick Lamar. Especially in light of the recent Grammy performance. I mean, his lyrics are pretty good, I give him that. But from a technical point of view? He doesn't do much with his voice, he does neither have great flow nor does he come up with wordplay. Lacks memorable beats, never heard one solid hook. He seems like a great storyteller, but as for music?

Please enlighten me.

Kendrick's aces as far as I'm concerned but I can see how he might come across to someone else like he comes across to you Flynn. For me his tracks never really sink their teeth in first bite, but after several listens I'm really digging them. He's more boa constrictor than cheetah.

Who do you love for word play and/or flow?
post #65 of 94
His other stuff never quite clicked but To Pimp A Butterfly lived up to the hype for me. Fantastic lyrics and concept and I thought the music was beautiful. The track These Walls has one of the most sublime chord sequences I've ever heard.
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To pimp a butterfly is great, but I haven't gone back to that in awhile, while I routinely put on his other records.
post #67 of 94
I like them all but still listen to good kid, m.A.A.d city the most.

When Flynn says Kendrick doesn't have hooks I think of how I can go days with Money Trees or Sing About Me or Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe stuck in my head - even after listening to a bunch of other stuff in the interim which fails to dislodge them - but I also remember that it took time for them to get me. He doesn't do big/pop hip-hop hooks which grab me instantly, but when they do sink in they take hold like champions.

In "Other Stuff I've Been Rocking Lately" news: Lizzo, Vince Staples, Junglepussy and Meek Mill. I missed the boat on Meek Mill and Junglepussy in particular last year so have been trying to catch up.
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I like them all but still listen to good kid, m.A.A.d city the most.

When Flynn says Kendrick doesn't have hooks I think of how I can go days with Money Trees or Sing About Me or Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe stuck in my head - even after listening to a bunch of other stuff in the interim which fails to dislodge them - but I also remember that it took time for them to get me. He doesn't do big/pop hip-hop hooks which grab me instantly, but when they do sink in they take hold like champions.

In "Other Stuff I've Been Rocking Lately" news: Lizzo, Vince Staples, Junglepussy and Meek Mill. I missed the boat on Meek Mill and Junglepussy in particular last year so have been trying to catch up.

Good kid M.A.A.D city functions as both a great concept album as well as a pretty fly hip-hop record on its own. To Pimp a Butterfly is great, but it's also an album, I feel, that really needs to be listened to in its entirety to be fully appreciate. Which is why I'll go to Section 80 or GKMC, because they're albums that I can enjoy each song independently. 

 

I feel like the only song he did on TPAB that even remotely resembles the sort of hooks prevalent in Hip-hop is probably King Kunta and Alright.

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TPAB is honestly too black for my lilly ass. Not anything against the record. Its a black album for black people.

 

If Macklemore came out saying that shit was his favorite album of 2015, he would deservedly earn some questioning. And while I definitely don't think I'm cornball on that level, i havent lived in the hood since I was pre-adolescent. I appreciate the struggle, I empathize with it, but its so wholly out of my experience that I can't help but feel like I'm watching a particularly compelling foreign language film with no subtitles.

 

I recognize that kind of suonds fucked up, but I'm engaging with it at maximum honesty. GKMC is one of my favorite projects of the 2010s, I thnk Kendrick is possibly the best in the game at the moment. I had an expectation that TPAB would be some glorious declaration of Hip Hop Supremacy, and it was actually about the facts of blackness in 2015. My failure to engage with it is wholly consequent to a personal failure to be that fully engaged in the black community. But, you know. I'm not wholly engaged in the Asian community either. Its not a record about hip-hop, its a record about a time and place exteremely specific to being Black in America. I think a lot of the (white) critical reaction was kind of dishonest. Like, you gotta insist that TPAB spoke to you, as a privileged white guy, in order to try and score a pass. I got a permanent pass, so I haven't felt the same need to play that game. Its a good album, that would be a great album if I were on the inside being testified to, but I'm not. 

And I think thats part of the greatness of it - its not for anyone except who its for. It doesn't compromise in the slightest bit to appeal to anyone who isnt already at the table. I respect that. I recognize it. But its not in my rotation. And some of the criticism aimed at the criticism - that the difficulty presented by the album was evaded because it was easier simply to sing its praise - I feel thats legitimate.


Edited by Zhukov - 3/2/16 at 8:48pm
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I don't 100% agree Zhukov, especially since it's kind of dissing my boy Paul C in a roundabout, unintentional, implicit, not really but kinda sort of way, but I love the post anyway. I salute your maximum honesty. I'll probably respond more when I'm not on my phone, but for now I'll leave it at that.
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IM GONNA RESPOND FIRST BUCHO.

WITH TOP THREE MCs

 

CRITERIA - favorite rappers. the ones you feel are just the fucking best. Purely subjective. Points will be deducted for blatant appeals to historicity. Im talking about the three rappers, if you could have your ideal stage lineup, right now, at that moment. The three rappers you most want to hear new shit from. Bonus consideration for longevity, consistency, relevance. Talent. If you could cipher with anyone, whos in the circle? If every rapper in the game was only gonna put out one more quality project - WHOS HOT??

details - defer to recency bias. Im talking about top 3, in the year 2016. That doesn't mean a submission has to be current, but they have to be relevant to the current day. I believe you might still fuck with Pauls Boutique on a daily basis. I am less believing that peope got the Blueprint 3 in heavy rotation in the dying lights of the Obama administration. Timeless is timeless, but if this shit aint on your megamix USB thumbdrive and it dont get turnt up every single time, admit the historicity and tell me whats nice. 

QUALIFIER - BIGGIE is the GOAT. Do not include B.I.G., because he's the best ever, he's the Jordan on the mic, if you aint got Smallz at #1 I aint even fucking with your opinion. Biggie is not included in this discussion. I'm talking best three MCs, after Notorious.

 

Round it out with your Top 5, cause I want to see who's just outside that Holy Trilogy. Numbers 4 and 5 deserve mention, and sorting out who is top 3 and who is top 5 is a useful way of clarifying ones own thoughts.

 

Finally, hit me with your 6-10. These don't need to be qualified, but rather produced as evidence that your Top 5 is actually meaningful, and you know your shit. So Top 10 in total. But top 3 gotta be super serious, if you throw some obscure fucking spit fiend in at number 8 - am I going with Canibus at the 8? I might have to - that just solidifies your status as a head to be respected.

TOP THREE

 

1. BIG BOI

My favorite rapper of all time. Technically sophisticated. Consistently funny - an impossible trick to pull off in the rap game. A storyteller devoted to tales of family and fat asses. The nicest AKA game in the game. Possibly the most diverse rapper still choppin - ATLiens to Vicious Lies. With a diamond album jammed in between (oh you didnt know Speakerboxxx is just as good as Love Below?). The best rap movie soundtrack in history (Idlewild isn't a very good movie, but it is a very good album, unfairly judged by that context. There are some absolutely delirious cuts in Idlewild. Cue that up. Belee that.) Features on features that never slack. A debut album that somehow got delayed five years but still lived up to the hype (if not the record sales, whatever. Lucious Leftfoot is Southern Rap at its peak, a flawless record minues one halfassed verse from Luda that I will never forgive). My favorite single album of the 2010s (Vicious Lies). The only reason this one ain't listed with a bullet is cause Big Grams turned in the first disappointing effort of Twans career. Still, that very first verse is enough to earn a pass, and I recognize Big Grams as an elaborate plot by General Patton as he tries to nail the singer from Phantogram. Did he succeed? He's the most winningest player on the team. Im gonna guess yeah. Give us Funk Soul Crusader. I beg.

 

2. Cam'ron

This list is my favorite rappers. Pute the puters. The most unique voice to ever peel off a grip while spitting in the direction of a mic with the sock on it. Dipset is New York. Jay, Slaughterhouse, Kweli, KRS. All legends. But NYC is the home of rap, and Cam is the most iconic rapper to ever step out of Harlem. Let me reference one of the criteria: who would you most want a project from, in 2016? Killa Cam in the Pink windbreaker. This is a bit of a sneak inclusion, as a means of showing love to all of DipSet. But Cam has always been a piece above, even amongst first round picks. His output is lacking, because dude would rather sip lean and count stacks. Cant really hold that against a rapper. Basically Cam at the peak disregarded everything about hip-hop, lyrically. Nobody twist the English swith such style, and his voice is the best. Anyone doubting the 2 spot, just realize, it aint the message, its how the message was meant. For being the most unique voice ever in rap, Cam gets the spot.

 

3. Mac Miller

Now he's just fuckin with you. This is the white rapper's white rapper. The jimi Hendrix of rap. Top 3 on the strength of Listening to Movies with the Sound Off and Good AM. Not really gonna defend this too much. Its just me being visionary. Fisherman has the highest upside of anyone in the game right now (excluding Kendrick, K. might be #1 alongside BIG. Potentially. But thats a long way away.)

 

 

Right Outside

4. MISSY ELLIOT

Ooooh Missy would be number 2 if she didn't get sidelined for a decade. Every Missy verse is a blessing. Misdemeanor is fucking amazing. I love her. Really she could be number 2 but I spent my most formative years 2005-2009 and she wasn't really anywhere to be heard. Maybe next time.

 

5. Dizzee Rascal
RASKIT. Really I'm chumpish for putting Mac over Diz. Boy in Da Corner and Showtime both have arguments for being the best album of the 2000s. No, seriously. Radiohead probably cock blocks Boy in that regard, but still. Possibly the most talented lyricist in this effort. On my deathbed, expect me to repent my blindness and say Dizzee was always the best.

 

6. Inspectah Deck - best rapper in the Wu, period.

7. Gift of Gab - speaks for himself. Cool af. 

8. Canibus - most underrated. Bars for days. Can't put together a project for shit, but I will always defend Bis. Consistently the most insightful, memorable lines, with machine precision and javelin venom. 'the atmosphere is an organism we apparently live in.'

9. Roots Manuva - Possibly the best verse ever. Reference Witness. Get back to me.

10. Krayzie Bone - I dont understand why Bone is slept on. But its okay. Anyone who fucks with Bone is someine i trust implictly.

 

 

APOLOGIES

WHY NO ANDRE? Cause I'm mad as fuck at 3000. You dont wanna rap, fine. I respect that. You just another Dallas cat, show love. I can't put you on a list. I wish I could. Bombs Over Baghdad was the first verse I ever memorized. But life is bittersweet. Heart broke.

 

NO PAC? Cause I aint ever cued up a Tupac track honestly. Its just not something I listen to in my free time. I would consider KURUPT tho. He's in contention. But overall I'm more of an East Coast and Dirty South soulja. West Coast was always a little too unfocused for me.

 

WHAT ABOUT KENDRICK? Lets re-consider in four years time. Kendrick might be the voice of the geneartion. But I'm not gonna give him appropriate shine until he delivers on Control. 

DOESNT PUTTING CAM AT 2 VIOLATE MOST OF YOUR CRITERIA? Correct, that's why he's there. At the end of the day, unmistakable style bests damn near everything else. If I could rap like anyone, it would be Cam. But then I wouldn't, because there's a million pretenders but not a single solitary sole ever sounded like this guy. To this day. Un-Fucking-Impeachable. Who am I to fuck with tradition?


Edited by Zhukov - 3/2/16 at 8:51pm
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Apologies if nobody wants to read all that bullshit I been asking people about TOP THREE all day cause I mostly want to say Mac Miller. GOOD AM is hugely appreciated by me. If anyone takes just one thing from all that, its listen to that album. And then a bunch of other albums as described therein. 

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I'm surprised this thread is still here honestly.



Edited by dilla7 - 3/2/16 at 10:25pm
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IM GONNA RESPOND FIRST BUCHO.


WITH TOP THREE MCs ...

Nice, you JUST HAD to wait until the semester started and I was snowed under with homework to give this extra assignment. I can't meet your epicness and/or clarity even close to halfway so for now I'm just going to have to disappoint you by simplistically saying:

#1 Missy (don't care how long she's been gone, Under Construction and So Addictive are my two most listened to hip hop albums of all time featuring multiple tracks I rock to this day).
#2 Kendrick (sure we could wait 4 years, but it wouldn't change the fact in 2016 I go to him first and have listened to at least 3 of his tracks most days this year).
#3 E-40 (to this very day the MC whose rap is the most out-and-out joyous to my ears and brain and soul).

I lean more East and South myself, but I can't not have Kendrick and E-40 in the three. Not today at least. As for the rest, I'll get back to you when Partial Differential Equations and Electrostatics aren't giving me the shits.

On the plus side you give me a reason to pay more attention to Mac Miller.
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I'm glad we all love Missy. Hope she serves us up regularly now.

post #76 of 94

Put the question to wifey, her response:

 

Big Boi (uninfluenced by own claims. We are a family that loves the Kast)
Saul Williams

Koolio

 

That's just the most adorable list. That new Saul Williams is good stuff btw.

 

Was inspired to give Big Grams another spin, and man do those beats slap. Still disappointed in a couple of Saxxx's verses - one in particular is just pasted onto the end of the track, no context or reason to it. Too many bars about nut-bustin. But the sound of the whole thing is really something. I was probably a bit disappointed the project didn't sound like their collabos on Vicious Lies, but its a whole different kind of thing that really stands apart. The RTJ feature has grown on me as well (El does kind of mail it in tho.)

 

The producer guy, Josh, super nice guy. Met them both in a bar here in Dallas and they were super psyched for the album. If I could go back in time, I would. To tell Josh to never ever rap again. I mean, at least don't record it. Leave no trace. Hilariously bad take, there. 

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Kendrick just released a new album on basically every streaming place. Get at it!!
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What?

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What?

Yup. It's essentially a TPAB B-sides. But it's pretty good. 

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Edited by dilla7 - 3/8/16 at 10:09pm
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 West Coast was always a little too unfocused for me.

Well, he's originally from Dallas, but he created most of his best work on the West (with N.W.A and Dr. Dre's solo efforts), so I say The D.O.C deserves props for being one of the great MCs. Even if his unfortunate accident robbed us of a promising career, he blessed us with one of the best rap records ever ("No One Can Do It Better") and ghostwrote some of Dre and Snoop's hits ("Nuthin' But a G' Thang" and "Next Episode"). He was a great rapper who was clearly influenced by Run DMC and all the East Coast rappers and his lyricism was on point.

 

On a Death Row-related note, here is a teaser from the upcoming 2Pac biopic, "All Eyez on Me" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYnTHtrsFdU

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Does anyone have additional recommendations for any hip-hop/rap that's cleaner?  And by cleaner I just mean very-little-to-no use of the "N" word. 

I know this is an old post, but check out songs by the following artists:

 

The D.O.C - It goes in line with my recent post, but his classic album "No One Can Do it Better" is different from the usual N.W.A records in that it relied less on profanity and more on wordplay and rhymes.

KRS One and anything he did with Boogie Down Productions

MC Lyte - underrated rapper

Big Daddy Kane - one of the best rappers from the golden age

Digital Underground - Sex Packets and This is an EP are essential listening. They were like the hip-hop Parliament Funkadelic.

LL Cool J - Listen to his albums from the 80s to early 90s (particularly his classic Mama Said Knock You Out)

Outkast - Just a great duo that's always been solid

Public Enemy & Beastie Boys - Because they're essential listening!

 

I haven't listened to enough of their albums, but also listen to Run DMC, De La Soul and Pharcyde.

post #84 of 94

some of my favs....I could list ALL DAY!!

 

Big L

Tribe Called Quest

Pete Rock n CL Smooth

Nate & Warren G

Planet Rock

Big Daddy Kane

Mos Def

Common

Bone Thugs

Grandmaster Flash

Kool Moe Dee

The Pharcyde

The Twins

De La Soul

2pac 

Biggie

The Roots

The D.O.C

Kid n Play

Souls of Mischief

Dead Prez

Mob Deep

Sugerhill

Naughty by Nature

Gravediggaz

Heltah Skeltah

Sean P

 

 

don't get me started on producers!

 

 

post #85 of 94

Solid list, BigIrish. Your list reminds me that I need to listen to more of Gravediggaz (as I got much respect for RZA).

 

Check out this recent book called "Original Gangstas" by Ben Westhoff. It's about the origins and success of West Coast hip-hop, so expect it to be heavy with the Ruthless and Death Row years. They also delve into details that the Straight Outta Compton film didn't go into like early pop acts that helped start Ruthless Records (such as J.J. Fad, Arabian Prince - a founding member of N.W.A who's never mentioned in the film and R&B singer, Michel'le); Tairrie B - the first white female rapper signed to a major label; that infamous manager, Jerry Heller might not have been as shady as we've been led to believe; and Dr. Dre's ugly violence towards women.

post #86 of 94

Thanks for the heads up RAVI! I will keep an eye out for that.

 

Ya I love me some Gravediggaz! Forgot to mention Channel Live, Lords of tha Underground,  Das EFX, Slick Rick, Leaders of the New School, MF Doom, Poor Righteous Teacher, Lost Boyz

 

damn...it is like picking your favorite horror movie...I just can't choose one!

post #87 of 94
DAMN is only my third favourite Kendrick album so far (after hearing it 15-18 times in various settings over the last couple of weeks) but I still can't stop listening to it for much more than a day.
post #88 of 94

Yeah mine too.

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DAMN is only my third favourite Kendrick album so far (after hearing it 15-18 times in various settings over the last couple of weeks) but I still can't stop listening to it for much more than a day.

Yeah mine too. GKMC is number 1, TPAB is 2 and DAMN is 3.

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I think Kendrick might be losing me. A friend of mine posted on facebook that he thought Damn was merely "okay." My first reaction was to defend because "It's Kung-Ku Kenny!!" But I found that I really couldn't muster up the interest to really say anything positive about it. It's not that it's bad--far from it. But Kendrick is increasingly becoming one of those artists whose album I really only listen to once. Even with TPAB, which I think is far and away a better album, I've only listened to the whole album a couple of times (though there are a couple of tracks that have made it onto my regular rap playlist). I think that, as he goes deeper and deeper into his "voice of a generation" persona, he loses exactly what I liked about him in the first place. That and I really don't care for Damn's production. A little to samey for my tastes.
post #90 of 94

new Big Boi tho

 

Its crazy to me that Fat Sacks and Gift of Gab are, like, C-list rapper level these days. At best.


Thats ridiculous. 

post #91 of 94
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I think Kendrick might be losing me. A friend of mine posted on facebook that he thought Damn was merely "okay." My first reaction was to defend because "It's Kung-Ku Kenny!!" But I found that I really couldn't muster up the interest to really say anything positive about it. It's not that it's bad--far from it. But Kendrick is increasingly becoming one of those artists whose album I really only listen to once. Even with TPAB, which I think is far and away a better album, I've only listened to the whole album a couple of times (though there are a couple of tracks that have made it onto my regular rap playlist). I think that, as he goes deeper and deeper into his "voice of a generation" persona, he loses exactly what I liked about him in the first place. That and I really don't care for Damn's production. A little to samey for my tastes.

I definitely get where you're coming from Ska. To me though even B-level Kendrick gets me real good.
post #92 of 94
And again, I think Damn is good. It's just that I'm afraid that Kendrick might be walking the same path Lupe Fiasco did.

Which makes me feel weird to say because, sure, socially-conscious rappers are always welcomed. BUT I do think there comes a point where a rapper can go up his own ass, something that I think happened to Lupe and could happen to Kendrick.

For my money, RTJ 3 is still the best rap album of the year.
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And again, I think Damn is good. It's just that I'm afraid that Kendrick might be walking the same path Lupe Fiasco did.

Which makes me feel weird to say because, sure, socially-conscious rappers are always welcomed. BUT I do think there comes a point where a rapper can go up his own ass, something that I think happened to Lupe and could happen to Kendrick.

For my money, RTJ 3 is still the best rap album of the year.
YES! Rtj 3 is definently the vest rap album of 2016 in my opinion. For 2017 so far I'm definently going with all amerikkkan bada$$, but there is a joyner lucas coming soon that I think will be great
post #94 of 94
man Ma$e can fucken rap
NOTORIOUS, BIG BOI, MISSY, then Ima say... Busta, Thought, MJG
DECK can sit at 7. thats balla.
 
Ma$e is peripheral top 20. I got a little too hype for a second.
 
Dear Andre Benjamin plz rap again

Edited by Zhukov - 7/25/17 at 2:22pm
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