Stay classy Seattle. They can talk shit but are sore fucking losers.
And that Butler kid who got the int should be MVP
Just playoff stats:
Montana: 16-7, 45TDs, 21INTs, 7.9 Y/A, 95.6 Rating
Brady: 21-8, 53TDs, 26INTs, 6.8Y/A, 89 Rating
In Super Bowls:
Montana: 4-0, 11TDs, 0INTs
Brady: 4-2, 13TDs, 4INTs
When you factor in the eras, IMO it's not close. Basically, if you asked me which QB at his prime I'd take, it'd be Montana without hesitation. Brady's got a strong case for #2 though.
I can only fathom two reasons:
1. Carrol expected that the Pats would be anticipating the rush by Lynch, so decided not to go with it. Despite the fact that there were relatively few times Lynch didn't manage to gain at least a couple yards on any given run.
2. And perhaps more importantly: Carrol/Wilson wanted to cement a case for Wilson as Super Bowl MVP by having him throw the game-winning pass vs Lynch running it in.
That's what I'm saying. Brady could have five or six Super Bowls. He didn't defend David Tyree and then Plaxico Burress, and he didn't drop the Welker pass. But the point remains he would only get credit for three had they just run Lynch once or twice more... does that make sense? Not really. But neither does someone saying he is now all of a sudden better than Joe Montana. If he is he was before yesterday as well.
If you think Brady is the best, it means you'd take him over every other player in NFL history ever. I struggle mightily with that. Do you think Belichick couldn't win SBs with Aaron Rodgers? Or Kurt Warner?
When you play with the greatest coach of all time (that would be much tougher to dispute), and you won your first three SB's (possibly cheating) by 4 points or less, almost all on the backs of great defenses, then lost two with mediocre defenses (against ELI MANNING), well, it is tough.
Terry Bradshaw won 4 SB rings, too. But NOBODY talks about him being the greatest. He also lost ZERO.
Aaron Rodgers only won one. Is he worse than Eli (2)? No one would take Eli over Aaron. Not even Archie.
Anyways, get ready for 5000 TB is the greatest ever articles, because sportswriters have short, short memories. Which is why the Butler play is the play of the century. Until next year.
Both Warner and Rodgers won their Rings with Hall of Fame WRs. The one one time Brady had a HoF WR(Moss) he threw 50 TD's and went 18-0 before losing on an all time lucky play.
Brady beat Kurt Warner (cheating, though not by Tom, most likely), Jake Delhomme, Donovan McNabb, and Russell Wilson (on an all-time lucky play, to coin a phrase).
When will Delhomme and McNabb enter the HoF? I know Roethlisberger will, so at least Aaron beat a quality QB to get his ring. Brady did beat Warner, but again, did he REALLY?
Montana beat Ken Anderson (MVP that season), Elway, Marino, and Esiason. For comparative purposes.
Warner had Marshal Faulk, Issac Bruce, Holt and some good 3/4 WR in Proehl. Montana had Jerry fucking Rice and Roger Craig not to mention a slew of HoFers on Defense.
Plus as Edleman pointed out yesterday Montana never had to deal with the Salary Cap.
So Tom Brady deals with the salary cap? I thought he played quarterback.
That whole notion is dumb anyway. It's harder to build a dynasty in a salary cap era, but the Patriots are the team who won three of them in four years. And this more recent Pats team is completely different without Gronk. He's every bit the gamechanger any other all pro receiver is, he just plays tight end. Plus, they've had a cakewalk division Brady's entire run. They practically had a rubber stamp to the second round of the playoffs at minimum.
Which is not to diminish Brady. It's to say it's not as clear cut as salary cap era = harder. I'm sure Montana would have traded the front office having to deal with a salary cap for the way the league protects quarterbacks now.
No, he just had to deal with concussions and his receivers getting totally mauled every down.
Yeah, it is so much easier playing QB in the 80s than it is today. That is why QBs today post such shitty numbers. Because everything was easier when the QBs could get hit and the CBs could actually play tough.
And Tom Brady has Gronkowski, the best TE in the game by a very, very wide margin (Bailey just covered this).
I'd take Marino over Manning. Plop Marino into this era, and his numbers would be insane. Better yet, plop him on to a good team in this era, and I have no doubt he'd have the Super Bowls that tend to unfairly skew the comparisons.