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Well, the young lead (Thwaites) is Will and Elizabeth's son, so...

I like the implication that we're supposed to believe this new movie is set 20+ years after the third film.  Apparently pirates age really well!

post #552 of 568
Rush looks like he's aged 20 years. The rest? Not so much.
post #553 of 568
Well, this one is ten years after AWE. Adding another ten doesn't stagger the imagination.
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I just find it interesting that we've jumped 20-odd years in the narrative with only one movie in between.

post #555 of 568
Didn't Jack drink from the fountain of youth in the last one?
post #556 of 568
No, he lost interest in drinking from the fountain himself when he learned that it required a sacrifice.
post #557 of 568

According to some fan-compiled timeline, these are the dates:

 

1738 - The Curse of the Black Pearl prologue

1746 - The Curse of the Black Pearl

1747 - Dead Man's Chest and At World's End

1750 - On Stranger Tides

 

So I guess the date for the fifth movie is 1747 + Age of Brenton Thwaites' Character.  Johnny Depp is 53 now, so it's not out of the question that his character is twenty years older than he was in the first movie.

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According to some fan-compiled timeline, these are the dates:

 

1738 - The Curse of the Black Pearl prologue

1746 - The Curse of the Black Pearl

1747 - Dead Man's Chest and At World's End

1750 - On Stranger Tides

 

So I guess the date for the fifth movie is 1747 + Age of Brenton Thwaites' Character.  Johnny Depp is 53 now, so it's not out of the question that his character is twenty years older than he was in the first movie.


Interesting.  I was always under the impression that the movies were set much closer to the start of the 18th century (based on no evidence whatsoever).

post #559 of 568
Brenton Thwaites.

Sounds like a character in a Will Ferrell movie.
post #560 of 568
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Interesting.  I was always under the impression that the movies were set much closer to the start of the 18th century (based on no evidence whatsoever).

 

It's a fair assumption because that would put the movies right in the golden age of piracy.  I think for the purposes of stakes the writers wanted to set them in an era where the pirates were starting to be wiped out.  Most of the movies have an antagonist with that agenda - Norrington in the first, Beckett in the second and third, and now Salazar in the fifth.

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It's a fair assumption because that would put the movies right in the golden age of piracy.  I think for the purposes of stakes the writers wanted to set them in an era where the pirates were starting to be wiped out.  Most of the movies have an antagonist with that agenda - Norrington in the first, Beckett in the second and third, and now Salazar in the fifth.

That's right. If there's anything this franchise has aimed for, it's historical accuracy.
post #562 of 568

They draw from history only when it's convenient, sure, but the fact that pirates were meeting with more resistance during that period could surely be one of those conveniences.

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It's a fair assumption because that would put the movies right in the golden age of piracy.  I think for the purposes of stakes the writers wanted to set them in an era where the pirates were starting to be wiped out.  Most of the movies have an antagonist with that agenda - Norrington in the first, Beckett in the second and third, and now Salazar in the fifth.


I can definitely see them reaching for that angle thematically, what with the business of Beckett's map filing in and the general sense that civilization is ending the age of both mysticism and piracy.  I don't know that that really holds up when there seem to be plenty of pirates running around in all of these movies, though.

post #564 of 568

The supposed "golden age of piracy" was 1650 to 1730, but it wasn't until the 1830s that piracy was said to have died out in the Caribbean.  Jean Lafitte himself was a 19th century pirate. 

 

Although I'm sure we're giving this more thought than we were meant to, it seems to me that even in the first movie, pirates weren't really safe to show themselves outside of Tortuga.

post #565 of 568
I'll wait until I hear from some of y'all. I need to read quite a few positive opinions before I jump back into this pool. On Stranger Tides burned me way too bad. It was it's lifelessness that ultimately undid it. It seriously felt twice as long as it was. Just a tired, ugly boring, nothing of a movie..
post #566 of 568

It is my understanding that the writers have been trying to use New Orleans as a setting for at least the last two movies.  Part 5 ended up ultimately being filmed exclusively in Australia to collect tax breaks, but I guess it's technically still possible some of the movie could be set in the Big Easy.  We need some good new ports to depict after the fourth movie failed to make London look all that much different from Port Royal in the first three films.

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It is my understanding that the writers have been trying to use New Orleans as a setting for at least the last two movies.  Part 5 ended up ultimately being filmed exclusively in Australia to collect tax breaks, but I guess it's technically still possible some of the movie could be set in the Big Easy.  We need some good new ports to depict after the fourth movie failed to make London look all that much different from Port Royal in the first three films.

 

Given the ride's history and placement at Disneyland, I've been waiting for New Orleans to appear in these movies at some point.  I'm not particularly expecting it in DEAD MEN TELL NO TALES, but I'd love to see it.

 

Perhaps for a sixth film (if one happens).  Given the possible timeline, it would only take about another 10 year jump to land Jack in Revolution-era America, which could be a fun backdrop, too, at least for a section of the story.

post #568 of 568
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The supposed "golden age of piracy" was 1650 to 1730, but it wasn't until the 1830s that piracy was said to have died out in the Caribbean.  Jean Lafitte himself was a 19th century pirate. 

 

Although I'm sure we're giving this more thought than we were meant to, it seems to me that even in the first movie, pirates weren't really safe to show themselves outside of Tortuga.

And then started again around 1999 with the invention of Napster. So much bloodshed.

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