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post #1 of 1173
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Ok, I can't hold off anymore. I am finally allowing myself to believe this will happen. The talent being lined up is too hard to deny. And Ridley not directing but still heavily involved makes me think we might get the best of both worlds... assistance in the design and preparing shots, but there's still an actual director that hopefully can participate to avoid bad decisionmaking.

 

BLADE RUNNER is one of those movies that has a lot of things glimpsed in the corner of the screen that gets your imagination running, but doesn't explain. Hopefully BR2 won't be like Prometheus, taking a tantalizing mystery and fleshing it out poorly. It's very much an unnecessary movie. But I feel there is a ton of potential to explore. And on top of that, it's a 'franchise' where thematic content is almost expected, so that along with the talent being assembled gives me hope that this won't just be a dumb shiny action movie.

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Ok, I can't hold off anymore. I am finally allowing myself to believe this will happen. The talent being lined up is too hard to deny. And Ridley not directing but still heavily involved makes me think we might get the best of both worlds... assistance in the design and preparing shots, but there's still an actual director that hopefully can participate to avoid bad decisionmaking.

 

BLADE RUNNER is one of those movies that has a lot of things glimpsed in the corner of the screen that gets your imagination running, but doesn't explain. Hopefully BR2 won't be like Prometheus, taking a tantalizing mystery and fleshing it out poorly. It's very much an unnecessary movie. But I feel there is a ton of potential to explore. And on top of that, it's a 'franchise' where thematic content is almost expected, so that along with the talent being assembled gives me hope that this won't just be a dumb shiny action movie.

 

I admit to being one of the 5 people who really kind of dug the book sequels written by K.W. Jeter, so I'm open to this.  If it's better than those books, which is definitely, totally doable, then I'll like it.  If it's not as in the vein of the original as the books, then I'll be able to shrug it off easier than Prometheus, which left me deeply disappointed due to expectations.  

post #3 of 1173

Wait is this actually happening? Don't get me excited.

post #4 of 1173
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I know man. They are assembling serious talent.
post #5 of 1173

Well that was fun to research. 

 

MMmmmmmm.... Roger Deakins.

post #6 of 1173
Submitted news about Deckards's status in BR2. Not surprising, but still wrong.
post #7 of 1173
It sounds more like the question left open by the first film has to be answered because that's the second film's starting point. I'm alright with that.
post #8 of 1173

Do replicants show signs of aging? How will they reconcile Deckard being a replicant with Harrison Ford's clear progression in years since the first movie, I wonder...

post #9 of 1173
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 How will they reconcile Deckard being a replicant with Harrison Ford's clear progression in years since the first movie, I wonder...

Bladerunner: Genisys

post #10 of 1173
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EDIT: NM derp
 
Looking forward to this so much.
post #11 of 1173
Filming in Beijing. Good for cityscapes.
post #12 of 1173

I'm in a weird position with this one where I feel like the fact Villeneuve is directing makes for better odds of it being a good film.

 

But at the same time, so much of what makes Blade Runner what it is comes from Ridley's eye. I would've liked to have seen what he'd come up with if he was helming it.

post #13 of 1173
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Dollars to donuts Ridley will be super super involved in design.
post #14 of 1173
So the release date just got moved up to October 2017.

The quality of the cast and crew is seriously undermining my attempt to remain indifferent to this thing.
post #15 of 1173

I'm sick to death of reboots, sequels and whatnot.

 

But here I dare to look forward to this film. It's got too much going for it.

post #16 of 1173
Yup. Fucking loved Sicario, and if he can bring that same kind of dread in that film with a sci-fi bent, I'm all for it.
post #17 of 1173

Yeah, Sicario is one of my top picks from last year. Villenueve is most definitely an exciting director, but eh... not excited by Gosling's casting. And I like the guy's work, just have a hard time picturing this style with him.

 

 

Maybe I've just watched that Nice Guys trailer once too many dozen times recently.

post #18 of 1173

What are you talking about? Gosling is perfectly inhuman. He'd make a great replicant.

post #19 of 1173
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What are you talking about? Gosling is perfectly inhuman. He'd make a great replicant.
It's very true.

But it's also true that we've seen that vein of performance from him before, ala DRIVE.
post #20 of 1173
Yeah but this time it makes sense!
post #21 of 1173

It made perfect sense for DRIVE.  The Driver is a barely contained inhuman psychopath.

 

But yeah, I think he'd fit in pretty well.  I have yet to be convinced that Gosling himself is not an actual replicant.

post #22 of 1173

I'm just being a punk, Codename. I do like Drive and I do like Gosling in it. 

post #23 of 1173
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Is it a bad assumption that Ana de Armas being in this means there will be tits?
post #24 of 1173

The only reason why this is getting made is because Ford was in TFA, just the same way that Tron Legacy got greenlit only because Jeff Bridges was in Iron Man. Both Blade Runner and Tron have some good things about them but they aren't good movies. I just find it ironic that they're making another Blade Runner because it now has brand name recognition after 30+ years since it was released and was a failure. I'm just surprised they haven't offered George Clooney 20 million to do a Killer Tomatoes sequel! 

post #25 of 1173
BLADE RUNNER is, in its own way, a true-blue masterpiece, but it's also not above criticism.

It's a weird movie that is arguably broken on some fundamental levels, but is still a landmark artistic achievement.
post #26 of 1173

Yeah, gonna respectfully disagree with you on BLADE RUNNER not being 'a good movie'.  I'll buy that you don't care for it (and I know several people who don't particularly like it, my wife included), but it's still a quality film with first rate direction, acting, and production design.  The plot works as an amalgam of several genres (film noir, science fiction), and it also works on an allegorical level if you want to go into religious themes.  There's a lot of intelligence in the script, and the film does a great job of making the viewer think about things beyond the superficial visual levels.

post #27 of 1173

Even though it's probably Ridley's best movie Blade Runner actually has some of his signature flaws. I'm mainly thinking of his tendency to get swept up in visuals and these broad abstract themes, and not caring so much about whether individual parts add up or not.

post #28 of 1173
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Even though it's probably Ridley's best movie Blade Runner actually has some of his signature flaws. I'm mainly thinking of his tendency to get swept up in visuals and these broad abstract themes, and not caring so much about whether individual parts add up or not.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

I kind of prefer my films that way, tbh. That is, movies that focus on ideas, atmosphere, and aesthetic over plotting.

post #29 of 1173

Which isn't to say I like my plot to be a convoluted, contrived or incoherent mess (hi, JJ), but a bare-bones plot is just fine with me, and I think Blade Runner fits that category.

 

Big Hollywood genre movies tend to plot the shit out of everything these days in order to set up elaborate CG extravanganzas. But the plots don't make sense if you spend two seconds thinking about them.

 

Midnight Special is a great recent example of economical genre plotting.

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I'm also curious on what "fundamental levels" Blade Runner is supposedly broken, because that sounds like a subjective argument (which is fine) claiming some sort of objective or absolute status. Which is not as fine.

post #31 of 1173

It seems that films are considered broken in the United States if they fall out of range of the beaten path. This is why there is no interest in watching foreign films in 'Murica.  Nobody wants to see movies that challenge audiences on visual and metaphorical levels. They want to see real life... with superheroes. 

post #32 of 1173
Blade Runner is the most intellectual "turn off your brain" movie ever. It seems made first and foremost to drink in its visual and aural splendor. The fact that the movie itself is so dense and cryptic(and yet...so simple), narratively only enhances its dreamlike, near hallucinogenic qualities. It feels like if you read Necromancer to someone and could see how they picture what you're reading. If this sequel is just a simple shoot 'em up....it fails. It needs to go for that "floating through a dream and it doesn't really matter whether or not you understand what you're seeing" thing that the first one has to be a true sequel..
post #33 of 1173
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Edited by Agentsands77 - 5/10/17 at 6:21am
post #34 of 1173
I'm not a fan of this beautiful film, but I wouldn't call it broken the way I call something like Days of Future Past broken.

Blade Runner clearly isn't going for clockwork construction. That's cool. That's fine. There are films that go for a similar effect that work magic on me.

But whatever magic and meaning so many feel for it, I can't seem to access it beyond its aesthetics.
post #35 of 1173
The Liberty Bell is also broken.

But seriously, Blade Runner is sort of a broken movie. You can say that without it being a detraction..
post #36 of 1173
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Sigh.

Do we really have to verbally qualify my judgements about art for those judgements to be recognized as subjective? (And, looking back, I actually did qualify my statement with the use of "arguably"!)


fair enough, I missed the "arguably" somehow. I still don't know what fundamental levels Blade Runner is broken on, but fair enough.

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The Liberty Bell is also broken.

But seriously, Blade Runner is sort of a broken movie. You can say that without it being a detraction..


and again, what does this mean?

 

I insist on clarification, y'all!

post #38 of 1173
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Edited by Agentsands77 - 5/10/17 at 6:21am
post #39 of 1173
Sure. But intentional or not, it seems to go well with the themes that the story explores?

I dunno! I can't say! I'm not a fan of the film!

The multiple cuts of the film over the decades kinda helps or hinders this debate! Hahhaha
post #40 of 1173

it became intentional once the Director's Cut took out the VO and added the dream shot.

post #41 of 1173
It's "broken" because it was brought into this world kicking and screaming by more than a few different parties who had different ideas of what it should be and bitterly pulled it apart in the process and then patched it up and unsuccessfully (at the time) sold THAT. Then over the years the different versions are tinkered with and released. I believe that somewhere between The Final Cut and the theatrical version lies the best possible version. But that's neither here not there. We have both at our disposal..
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Edited by Agentsands77 - 5/10/17 at 6:21am
post #43 of 1173
No other movie feels like this one, that's for sure. Between the visuals and Vangelis Vangeling the hell out of it, it is for me, the closest to an actual drug trip of any movie I've ever seen. Not a jagged, horrible, scary, bad trip....a nice, smooth, warm "I'm having some really pleasant abstract thoughts" kinda trip..
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Edited by Agentsands77 - 5/10/17 at 6:21am
post #45 of 1173
I don't think there's any way that Blade Runner could've been properly marketed to have made it a hit a the time. Unless the tag line was something like "Stop thinking Star Wars and start thinking Kubrick."
post #46 of 1173

Even today, I don't think Blade Runner would do mainstream blockbuster numbers.

 

That's not a bad thing necessarily. I have no idea how this sequel will do.

post #47 of 1173

I so want this movie to be broken.

post #48 of 1173

I don't see a Blade Runner sequel doing particularly amazing business either.  ESPECIALLY if it retains any of the qualities that made Scott's film a favorite among geek/cinephiles.

post #49 of 1173
It'll do alright just off of Ford and the original's now classic reputation alone. And if it's GOOD...I'd say Fury Road numbers may be the ceiling for it. I very very much want it to be just as weird and vague and dreamlike. And does Vangelis still Vangel? His work is half of the film's mystique. I like Hans Zimmer but boy would that be wrong..
post #50 of 1173
Bringing back lush '80s synth scores would be almost enough justification for this movie to exist.
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