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post #601 of 1173
whoa even brad!
post #602 of 1173
You owe me an apology!

/Castor Oyl in "Popeye"
post #603 of 1173

Like Brad, I was cool with Leto as the Joker....until I saw the actual movie. Fucking terrible. I'll blame Ayer and the script, too, but Leto bears a lot of responsibility.

post #604 of 1173

So glad I avoided it.

post #605 of 1173
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

Like Brad, I was cool with Leto as the Joker....until I saw the actual movie. Fucking terrible. I'll blame Ayer and the script, too, but Leto bears a lot of responsibility.

 

Oh, I tried too. I'm open to interpretations. I mean, a punk rock terrorist Charles Manson was not exactly how I thought The Joker should be interpreted, but Ledger's Joker turned out to be one of the great screen villains.

 

Leto's Joker didn't inspire confidence from the first glimpses. I was onboard with certain shots of him in the trailer. Then I finally saw the movie.

 

There are many problems with Suicide Squad - the way it handles female characters, the scattershot narrative, David Ayer's id gone haywire despite being confined to a studio-exec committee and a PG-13 rating - but introducing The Joker as a white trash creep of a pimp and the personification of misogyny, coupled with Leto's Mega Method approach to the role, was legendarily bad.

 

Suicide Squad is better than Batman 5 Superman on many levels. But Leto's Joker makes Eisenberg's shrill, overreaching Lex Luthor look iconic.

post #606 of 1173
Personally I think one of the million spinoffs should be Lex and Joker: On the Road.
post #607 of 1173

Of course Leto's joker is bad.  It's written terribly, and it's a flashback side-note character not even involved in the actual plot (such as it is).  It looks like they jammed as much of him into the movie as they could to distract from the other dreck.  Unless Leto had something to do with the writing or directing, then I don't see how it's actually his fault, other than perhaps he should have turned the role down.

post #608 of 1173

Anybody else getting a NOT Tron Legacy vibe from this?  I hyped myself up so much for Tron Legacy, the letdown actually soured me on movies in a way that I never fully recovered.  See also:  Rogue One

 

Anyway, last movie I got this excited about was Fury Road.

post #609 of 1173

Once in a while... you gotta love fan art!

 

 

EDIT:

 

Btw, just caught the short film with Leto.  He's okay in it.  The short itself was pretty dull.  


Edited by Carnotaur3 - 8/30/17 at 11:07pm
post #610 of 1173
I didn't buy, for one second, that Benny Wong's office would have such filthy walls. Besides that, the teaser was about as interesting as the recent Alien prologues - conceptually interesting, but also boring and rushed
post #611 of 1173
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Originally Posted by BruceL View Post
 

They are shooting three short films to flesh out the BR world. Here's one by the guy that did MORGAN.

 

 

Wow, Simon Pegg isn't looking too good these days.

 

Yeah, that was really bad. The music was cheesy and obvious. Leto mutilating his henchman like a DTV action movie villain. The slick floaty camera tracking.

 

The Speak N' Spell voice isn't bad in theory, but everything about that scene was awful. "This is a bad thing you are doing! We are witnessing ungoodness!"

 

Why in the world would the creative team behind this film decide they needed to copy the Prometheus/Covenant short film thing? The only excuse would be if it was mandated by Ridley.

post #612 of 1173
It has to be Ridley. The man is probably fronting his own money on free marketing for the studio.
post #613 of 1173

  The short didn't do anything for me, but it didn't change my mind about wanting to see the movie.

post #614 of 1173

The short is... nothing really, it's barely a story so its hard to judge.  Slick cinematography is fairly easy to do.  I'm trying to get onboard with Leto but whatever he was doing was awful and I have a feeling the movie will collapse under the weight of his awfulness.  I said this when he was first cast, but how do you go from the amazing Joe Turkel to fucking Leto?  It's like going from John Cazale to Adrian Grenier.  

post #615 of 1173

Also, it's really stupid to have Leto try to do something weird, when he has enough trouble just acting as a normal person.  It's like adding weights to someone on a treadmill. 

post #616 of 1173

Blade Runner 2049 has plenty of things that might bring it down besides the weight of Leto's awful.

 

Sidenote: Requiem for a Dream is aight. Like, it has plenty of cool ideas in terms of the audio-visual patterns it uses, and it's got some heart to it... but, yes, it's basically an afterschool special with MUCH better acting and production value. It's just pretty gimmicky, and its characters are more concepts that people, though Burstyn brings the goods.

 

I did love it when it came out because there's a sort of film school transparency to it that I really latched on to, but since haven't found enough depth in it to really maintain my esteem of it. But a nifty visceral experience and still one of Aronofsky's better films, I think.

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post #619 of 1173
Well it's nice to see that everybody on the production got their head wedged as firmly up Leto's ass as his is.
post #620 of 1173

That can't be real can it? 

 

Good god it's like a parody of method acting. 

post #621 of 1173
Didn't Leto come out and say that some of those Suicide Squad stories were exaggerated?

For the record, I've had no problems with his performance in either the trailers or the shorts.
post #622 of 1173

He said they were exaggerated. The other actors didn't. 

post #623 of 1173

This is so dumb.

 

Boycott?

post #624 of 1173

let us boycott

post #625 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

Fuckin' Jared Leto: 

http://www.etonline.com/jared-leto-blinded-himself-get-character-blade-runner-2049-86828

 

Quote:
Villeneuve revealed that the performer was going to impressive lengths to get into character before principle photography even began. During his first camera test, the director said Leto came into the room already in character. 
 
"He could not see at all. He was walking with an assistant, very slowly. It was like seeing Jesus walking into a temple," he recalled. "Everybody became super silent, and there was a kind of sacred moment. Everyone was in awe. It was so beautiful and powerful -- I was moved to tears [because I knew my film was ruined before I even started shooting]."
post #626 of 1173

That poor PA.

 

And if the recent tv spots are any indication, they're going all in on a theory I hate.  So, not boycott.  Maybe redbox.

post #627 of 1173

I look forward to the Harrison Ford interviews, once the buzz for this is done and over with, where Ford tells everyone what a dumbfuck Leto is.

post #628 of 1173

Can we convince Leto to do a remake of Joe vs. the Volcano?  

post #629 of 1173

Jordan Catalano vs. the Volcano.  Might be resistant to bringing back an old character, but if they let him go full method...  The ending doesn't even need to change.  Away from the things of man.

post #630 of 1173

Urgh.

 

Something something Laurence Olivier something something Dustin Hoffman.

post #631 of 1173

Also this:

 

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 Leto’s role was originally envisaged for David Bowie before the music icon passed away in January 2016. In a recent interview, director Villenueve revealed that Bowie had been his first choice to play Wallace, but he instead cast Leto in the role after seeking out actors with similar rock star backgrounds to Bowie.
 

 

Comparing 30 Seconds my Arse to David Bowie.. well.. well... fuck off.

 

Director has just done a spectacular job on putting me off seeing the film.

post #632 of 1173
That we were cheated from a David Bowie replicant performance is the most disappointing news I've heard in a while.
post #633 of 1173

I mean, they hired Jared Leto.

 

They asked for this.

post #634 of 1173
If any 'rock star' is good enough, might as well have put Chad Kroeger in the movie.
post #635 of 1173
What a stupid quote. Weren't Tom Waits, Mos Def or Justin Timberlake available? Villeneuve could've also just forgot that rockstar nonsense and follow this simple casting rule:

post #636 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post

If any 'rock star' is good enough, might as well have put Chad Kroeger in the movie.

 

Is Meatloaf still acting?  

post #637 of 1173

Should have just called up Chris Jericho.

post #638 of 1173
Shit, I'd even take Vanilla Ice at this point.
post #639 of 1173
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Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post

Shit, I'd even take Vanilla Ice at this point.

 

Vanilla Ice explains why he turned down Blade Runner 2.

post #640 of 1173
Thread Starter 


I like Leto and this movie looks awesome, so I'm off to Reddit and will leave this cesspool of a Suicide Squad thread to y'all. Enjoy! Hey and did you hear that Jared Leto is in this?!?!
post #641 of 1173

First clip:

 

 

'...and they were men.'

 

So yeah, sounds like they're wanting to kickstart the replicant speculation prior to the film being released.

post #642 of 1173

Are there ANY men left in Blade Runner 2049? 

post #643 of 1173

No, they were all destroyed in Operation Friend Zone, the climactic battle of 2024's Great Red Pill War.

post #644 of 1173
I'd much rather have a Replicant/Human buddy cop movie than 2.5 hours of "IS ONE OF THEM A REPLICANT?????"

So I find that at least cautiously encouraging.

Updated upon further thought, I have a hunch where this story is going finally... I'll spoiler tag it in case folks want to skip my thinking.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Putting together this clip, the interval history timeline they released with info on Leto's character, and the trailer(s) dialogue, this is where I think they're going:

The food shortages post-BR led to a population freefall. Humanity was basically on the road to extinction on Earth. Leto's character steps in with 2 things - GMO food for cheap that can survive and be mass-manufactured on Earth, and new Replicant models for off-world (because of the ban).

Between BR and BR2049, 2 things happen: Leto convinces the government to lift the Replicant ban, and the only food anyone on Earth eats is his GMO stuff. The human population is now very small on Earth, likely less than 500,000,000.

What has actually happened:

Babies born to humans who eat his GMO stuff are Replicants. The entire future of the human race on Earth and off are thus Replicants. He believes Replicants are superior and the only hope "humanity" has of surviving long-term. He's engineered the human race to become Replicant in order to save it.

With the ban lifted, Replicants are basically just waiting for the last non-GMO humans to die off to formally take over civilization and start fixing things. K, a Replicant Blade Runner, and whoever gives him his orders have heard rumblings of some Replicant "underground terrorist plot" or something, and he's investigating what it might be.

Deckard probably figured this out long ago and has been just hanging out after Rachel died.

What the endgame is I'm not sure, because there's not really any "going back." But that's a story I could sink my teeth into, could see Villaneuve getting excited about directing, could feel like a solid sequel to Blade Runner, and seems to line up with all the data we've been given thus far.

Hope it's this.

Edited by Analog Olmos - 9/11/17 at 4:40pm
post #645 of 1173
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Originally Posted by Analog Olmos View Post

I'd much rather have a Replicant/Human buddy cop movie than 2.5 hours of "IS ONE OF THEM A REPLICANT?????"

So I find that at least cautiously encouraging.

Updated upon further thought, I have a hunch where this story is going finally... I'll spoiler tag it in case folks want to skip my thinking. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
 

 

For a hot second I thought this said "Republican/Human buddy cop movie".

 

Human Cop: Hello, sir, we're with the LAPD and we want to ques...

 

Republican Cop: Oh, fuck, he's black! <Pulls out gun. Empties clip into witness>

 

Human Cop: I'm getting too old for this shit.

post #646 of 1173
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

For a hot second I thought this said "Republican/Human buddy cop movie".

Human Cop: Hello, sir, we're with the LAPD and we want to ques...

Republican Cop: Oh, fuck, he's black!

Human Cop: I'm getting too old for this shit.

Ha... ohh what a bitter laugh this gave me.
post #647 of 1173

Johan Johansson is no longer involved w/ the score at all, having been fully replaced by Zimmer.

 

http://theplaylist.net/composer-johann-johannsson-confirmed-off-blade-runner-2049-20170912/

 

Damn.

post #648 of 1173
hahahah yes of course

a regular movie more and more
post #649 of 1173

Ugh. I have to assume that was a studio decision, given Villeneueve's history with Johansson.

post #650 of 1173
BWAAAAAAAMP
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