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post #151 of 307

So, what's Craig Robinson's deal exactly? Any thoughts?

post #152 of 307

Eliot's religion rant at the church group left me pretty much mouth wide open.

post #153 of 307
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I had a thought during last night's episode....

 

This is the TV version of "Hackers" as directed by David Lynch.

post #154 of 307
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So, what's Craig Robinson's deal exactly? Any thoughts?

 

He's a crook of some sort. Of what sort I can't say. But I guess he has a bunch of money tied up on the other guy's bitcoin servers and he can't get to them. He's a loquacious motherfucker though. That is certain. 

post #155 of 307
Holy shit, it's Bill!
post #156 of 307

I kept trying to place that dream song and AV Club says its "Basketcase" by Greenday.  This show continues to amaze me.

post #157 of 307
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I kept trying to place that dream song and AV Club says its "Basketcase" by Greenday.  This show continues to amaze me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO4RfLw35is

post #158 of 307

This is a really special show. There's nothing quite like it on TV right now.

post #159 of 307

It is very singular, but they need to knock it off with these supersized episodes.  Generally, I think the flexibility provided by the brave new streaming world is a good thing, but a show where the second lead is a manifestation of the main character's tortured psyche has enough self-indulgence built into the narrative itself without it infecting the structure.  If you need extra length for a finale, or a premiere, or even some major midseason "event", then fine.  But whether your season is 6, 8, 13 or 22 episodes long, there's no reason for episode 3 to ever be a jumbo.  You just need to restructure the whole shebang at that point.

post #160 of 307

I say Esmail should ignore Schwartz's critique and stick to the premium cable length.  I'm loving hour episodes and it's what I crave this summer.

 

Fuck, this show is brilliant!

post #161 of 307

No offense, Schwartz.

post #162 of 307

The Careful Massacre of the Bourgeoise is now available to watch online and its worth watching until the end!

 

https://www.whoismrrobot.com/massacre/

post #163 of 307

Hey, if it's a 90 minute show then that's fine.  Structure the show that way.  But indications are it's going back to 60 minutes at some point, which is going to be jarring.

post #164 of 307

Mesmerizing as it frequently is, these last two episodes felt realllllllllly long. Nearly every scene felt three times too long, to the point where I became distracted by the style and occasionally stopped listening to what characters were talking about. I loved the dream sequence and the ending, but sections of this last episode especially got on my nerves. EDIT: Oh hai Schwartz!

post #165 of 307
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Mesmerizing as it frequently is, these last two episodes felt realllllllllly long.

 

Seconded. Or thirded. Or whatever. Definitely felt indulgent.

post #166 of 307

I've only seen the second season pilot and I'm actually struggling to work up the nerve to continue. It's a beautifully stylised show, but I just don't think Esmail's writing matches up to the filmmaking on display.

post #167 of 307

So I don't mind Mr. Robot being around but these long arguments/battles are tiresome. Im assuming there is more of that in the latest 90 minute episode.

post #168 of 307

And here I am, waiting up until 3 in the morning for the episodes to drop on Amazon, and I'm soaking every minute up.  I'm guessing I'll stick to being in the minority.

post #169 of 307
Mr. Lien: "Damn it Neil, stop coming in here! You're two episodes behind, you idiot!"

Neil: [takes more adderol] "You shut up! Get it of my head!"

[violently throws up. re-takes adderol]
post #170 of 307

Just spent this week watching Season 1 and the first three episodes of Season 2. 

 

This would have been an edgy SF Novel or series of novels in the 60's, perhaps a collaboration between Harlan Ellison and Philip K Dick. 

 

At least, that's what I see this TV series as mining heavily, and that's a compliment not a put down. 

 

Really love the New Yorkness of it, and the Near Future setting, and the themes of isolation and the painful search for authenticity all the characters go through to one degree or another. 

 

My nit picks are 1) I wish they just went with the Guy Fawkes masks for Fsociety. I know why they didn't of course, but a mask that looks like the Millionaire from Monopoly kinda defeats the purpose of a bunch of anarchists unless

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Fsociety was started by Evil Corp all along!

2) I think the writer/director is straining to just be weird for the sake of being weird a little too often. 

 

Debating on whether to buy Season 2 on Amazon....

post #171 of 307

You'll see the origin of the mask shortly.

post #172 of 307
Oh god, that was a horrifying way to go.
post #173 of 307

I was lulled into a false sense of.. who am I kidding.. as was almost dozing off when DAMN that woke me the hell up. Shit got too real.

post #174 of 307
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What

the

Hell..... :)

post #175 of 307

Christ Almighty, this is fucking brilliant. Maybe the best mindfuck this show's pulled.

 

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They've done for TGIF sitcoms what the beginning of Natural Born Killers did for 50's family shows.
post #176 of 307

Goddammit! I didn't realize S2 had already started. Rushed over to iTunes and got the season pass. Downloading the episodes now. Thank the TV gods for you guys, I'd have never known this was back.

post #177 of 307
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Goddammit! I didn't realize S2 had already started. Rushed over to iTunes and got the season pass. Downloading the episodes now. Thank the TV gods for you guys, I'd have never known this was back.

YOUR WELCOME!

post #178 of 307
That opening was brilliant.
post #179 of 307

I haven't watched past episode 3 (or was it 4?).  Loved the first season.  Recommended it to everyone.

 

This shit is putting me to sleep.  Does it pick up?  I'm not really even sure what they're going for here.  Is everything just supposed to be a slow-moving, fractured mess?

post #180 of 307

Sam Esmail is the 2016 groan equivalent of Vince Gilligan at the end of an episode.  Just as I'm about to ask for more, Executive Producer credit.  This show.  That opening and some confirmation of where I thought we were headed with Tyrell.  Holy *bleep*, I couldn't help but laugh at Mrs. Alderson.  Holy *bleep*, that must have really been a brutal childhood.

post #181 of 307
Eliot rocking the 90's jean shorts might have been the best part of that sitcom sequence. That and the awesome e-Corp commercials of tv past.
post #182 of 307
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I haven't watched past episode 3 (or was it 4?).  Loved the first season.  Recommended it to everyone.

 

This shit is putting me to sleep.  Does it pick up?  I'm not really even sure what they're going for here.  Is everything just supposed to be a slow-moving, fractured mess?

 

I'm completely the opposite here. I'm loving the slow build. The resolution between Mr. Robot and Elliot wouldn't have been half as satisfying here if we hadn't been privy to the slow series of chess moves between them over the previous episodes. 

 

I'm also really loving Grace Gummer's character. If Colombo had been female and worked for the FBI, he'd have probably been Agent DiPierro.


Edited by MrSaxon - 8/11/16 at 11:38am
post #183 of 307

Dammit, I can't just have this on as I work. I have to watch and listen to every episode. That means, I'll have to put this one on hold from watching til I can really pay attention.

 

I love that about this show, too. 

post #184 of 307

I don't really have an eloquent way of putting this, but this show is starting to get on my nerves. I love me some formal experimentation, but I'm starting to think this show is more a demo reel for Sam Esmail than a coherent show. I feel like I've learned more about his DVD collection than his characters this season. Esmail said this last ep was "the best episode of Mr. Robot to date," which tells me more about him than the show.

post #185 of 307
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I don't really have an eloquent way of putting this, but this show is starting to get on my nerves. I love me some formal experimentation, but I'm starting to think this show is more a demo reel for Sam Esmail than a coherent show. I feel like I've learned more about his DVD collection than his characters this season. Esmail said this last ep was "the best episode of Mr. Robot to date," which tells me more about him than the show.

Yeah im getting more annoyed at all the arguing with imaginary Dad in general. Although it's fine in this episode because fun 90's sitcom. Also Alf.

post #186 of 307
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Yeah im getting more annoyed at all the arguing with imaginary Dad in general. Although it's fine in this episode because fun 90's sitcom. Also Alf.

It might be an odd time to register my complaint, because that was probably the most entertaining ep of the season, but the show's starting to wear thin for me, for whatever reason.

post #187 of 307
It's not as propulsive as the first season. Sidelining Elliot like Laurie Strode in Halloween II is playing a big part in that. Ray does come off a little like Vera 2.0 in a way. I do hope to see Vera pop up again at some point.
post #188 of 307
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It might be an odd time to register my complaint, because that was probably the most entertaining ep of the season, but the show's starting to wear thin for me, for whatever reason.

Cause this season has been glacially slow and disappointing?
post #189 of 307
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Sweet jeebus, the negativity here...

 

I for one am still digging this show immensely. 

It's still some amazing eye candy and I am more than content to see how things play out no matter how long it might take.

post #190 of 307

I agree the first eps were slow, probably due to being so damn long, but this week's episode really brought things around I think. I know the sitcom bit was polarizing, but the infiltration of the FBI floor was pretty exhilarating IMO.

post #191 of 307
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Cause this season has been glacially slow and disappointing?

I didn't mind the two-hour premiere, although I didn't like the next two eps very much. This last one was certainly better than those.

post #192 of 307

I think the show has been consistent all the way through and I see little fat or error in the episodes we've seen so far.  Quite frankly, this is the true successor of Breaking Bad and Mad Men and there's nothing else on television that's as good as this series, as "slow" and "boring" as it supposedly is...

post #193 of 307
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Sweet jeebus, the negativity here...

Naw, it's still my favorite show right now.

Well, maybe a close tie with Braindead.
post #194 of 307
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I think the show has been consistent all the way through and I see little fat or error in the episodes we've seen so far.  Quite frankly, this is the true successor of Breaking Bad and Mad Men and there's nothing else on television that's as good as this series, as "slow" and "boring" as it supposedly is...

You can type that, but I'm not sure I believe it. For starters, there isn't a single character on this show as good as the characters on BB or MM. Not a one.

I like the show, gang. There's just stuff that doesn't work for me. Sorry if my "negativity" hurts, but you can't hyperbolize my complaints away.

post #195 of 307

I agree with every single one of you. Except for the Breaking Bad/Mad Men successor thing. That's just malarky. Otherwise, 100% agreement.


Edited by wd40 - 8/12/16 at 12:40pm
post #196 of 307

Haha are we just naming random shows as the true successors to Breaking Bad and Mad Men now?

post #197 of 307

Yeah, I think we all know that SyFy's Wynonna Earp is the true successor to Breaking Bad and Mad Men.

post #198 of 307
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Yeah, I think we all know that SyFy's Wynonna Earp is the true successor to Breaking Bad and Mad Men.

Really? I think it's Powers on PSN.

post #199 of 307

Here's some positivity:

 

- Comparing any show to BB and MM, save for oh, 5 or so, is unfair to the show. That people think it belongs in that category is a testimony to the highs this show has occasionally had.

- My problems with the show will likely never extend to its visuals. I'm hypnotized by its style even when I find the storytelling lacking.

- Even when I'm lukewarm on some of the character work, I think the cast is uniformly strong.

 

Let's be friends, everybody.

post #200 of 307

I don't think that one show could really be the "successor" to both Breaking Bad and Mad Men.  They were very different shows.

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